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2010-2011 Proleague in Review

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BisuDagger
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Last Edited: 2011-11-14 17:54:45
November 14 2011 01:07 GMT
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edit: cleaned up some wrong statistics. This Review reflects regular PL only. Also added (P)Horang2, (Z)ggaemo, and (P)Jaehoon because they deserve it.

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We all know the Proleague is nearing. We all know who we love and want to cheer for. The "??? Team will win PL this year" threads are all popping up. The Brood War community is boiling. And like a steaming kettle, is already screaming for the first match of games.

What has happened in the last 3 months? It seems that as group we have become crusaders to purify TL. And let the ignorant know that Brood War is the greatest strategy game of all time. But in the mist of that battle KESPA has shocked both sides of the fight. First, we find that a SC2 league is rumored to come in the future, but like all popular games this is what KESPA does. So, how can we trust that KESPA still believes in the BW community? The creation of the “The 8th Kespa”, the “Dream Team”, the “OMGJDBABYSEAPWNAGE team”.

Well, clearly the TL community is as strong as ever and it’s been refreshing to see the old sigs and even new ones start to awaken in the LR threads as the time grows near. And for you people, deserve a zero bias analysis of the year in review. We cannot speculate on the future of these teams, but it is easy to acknowledge what they did last year and what trends will follow them into the new season. So I now present to you: PL 2010-11 A Year in Review.


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STX SouL:
The Good:
(P)Shuttle!: 18 wins - 13 losses (58.06%) Who can’t be satisfied with Shuttle. He did everything asked of him last season. Taking on the brave task of playing (T)Flash he win 2-1. In the mist of this, he played a large amount of PvP this season going 10-8. Even though his skill in PvP has dropped significantly, it’s looks as though shuttle could be the new protoss ace next season.

(Z)Calm: 15 wins - 15 losses (50.00%)... This is one of the top records for STX. So given, Calm did not clam it up last season he did not play exceptional either. Now Calm has the potential to establish himself as a team leader with Calm out of the picture, but will he be Jaedong or will he Hyuk himself.

The Bad:
(P)Kal: With the horrible record of 14-21, (P)Kal had a terrible last season. Coming of 2010 where he played as top toss, he has dropped off as a reliable player of STX. While he is no longer with their team, his slump last season sticks with them, especially when he loses 10 of his last 14 games. May he play better at ACE, his fans sure deserve to see him play better.

The New:
(T)Bogus: Finishing 25-13, STX has finally been able to look to a new player. Bogus is a strong terran and has the potential to be at the top next season. He ended the season on a 7 game win streak including two wins against a very good Stats.

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Samsung KHAN:
The good:
(P)Stork: As always (P)Stork has been consistent in PL. He finished with 24 wins - 19 losses (55.81%). While these numbers don’t stand out, it’s still impressive to clock above a 50% winrate. (P)Stork ended the season as the leader of the team with a winning record vs (Z)Jaedong and (P)Bisu. The most concerning stat for (P)Stork currently is that he has a lower elo then (P)Bisu VT. And (P)Bisu's VT peak is 5 points away from breaking storks.

The bad:
(P)JangBi: Wins an OSL but has a record of 13 wins and 18 losses. While he finished the season with a 6 game win streak, he lost 4 in a row during the PL playoffs. Jangbi may be considered the new favorite protoss in BW right now. Gathering lots of fans with his OSL wins, Khan fans will be watching him closely to perform well. Khan has a chance to have the best Protoss lineup in the league.

(Z)January: January is on the hotseat for her picks in ace match situations. Last season the correct answer was to play (P)Stork every time. Fortunately (Z)RorO is a new potential ace for khan.

The new:
(T)Reality: 12-17 last season. He beat players (T)Flash, (T)Fantasy, and (Z)RorO. While his record is not impressive, the players he has beaten are.

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CJ Entus:
The Good: Entus has 4 top players averaging over a 60% winrate!
(T)Leta: Leta went a great 20-12 (62%) this season. It’s exciting to see this great Terran performing so well. Entus could call him the most reliable player as he finished his season with an amazing performance in the PL playoffs, including his finish against Flash and amazing Wraith play against Crazy-Hydra.

(Z)Hydra: Great in the PL and Single leagues, Hyrda has become one of the most consistent players in PL. He went 26-12 on the season. At may seem like for some one as good as (Z)Hydra he should have had more games played, but Entus has such a deep team that he is able to maintain a 68% win rate and not be forced on to the field 60 times.

(P)Movie: It has to be refreshing if your an Entus fan. Having a player of each race performing consistently can really make your team a power house. Finished the season 18-10 (64% winrate) Movie has proven himself as one of the new top Protoss in PL.

(P)Horang2: Horang went 21 wins - 11 losses with a 65.63% win rate. Playing even better then his partner movie, most people believed that Entus has the top protoss house. With a repeat of last season there will be no question in this title. Most impressively was Horang2's winning streak that consisted of beating in this order, (Z)Action, (T)Iris, (Z)Shine, (P)Pure, (Z)Jaedong, (P)Shuttle, and (P)Bisu!

The Bad:
(T)sKyHigh: 8 wins - 15 losses. Skyhigh ended with a 34% winrate. Someone who is supposed to be a strong terran played did not show up last season. Although his last 3 losses were again (T)Flash, (P)Bisu, and (P)Jaehoon, (T)sKyHigh is on the hotseat to perform better this season or risks being over taken by (T)BByong as #2 terran.

The new:
(T)BByong: Finishing 6-7 BByong did not get to see much time in the spotlight, but Entus is so deep that it’s hard to find playing time. With (Z)EffOrt joining the force, every match Entus will have a sturdy lineup to rely, including (T)BByong.

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SKT: Finished second place.

The good:
(P)Bisu: Last season (P)Bisu scored 36 wins and 5 losses. That total’s an 87% winrate! He broke the record for most wins in a single season. His most suprising statistic would be his vT. He went 20-3 with losses only to (T)Flash, (T)HiyA, and (T)Leta. All those losses came in winner’s league, which means (P)Bisu went a perfect 20-0 against terran outside of winner’s league. Most notably if you look at the 10 terran he defeated, he beat every top terran you can name in PL last season.

The bad:
(T)Fantasy: Still undefeated in the Grand Finals of PL. (T)Fantasy went 20-19 with a 51.28% winrate last season. While his individual league’s were great he definitely did not shine on SKT last season. He was cleary missed during the winter and throughout the playoffs where he went 0-6 including a lost to where. S-Class fantasy did not make an appearance last season in PL or help his team make #1.

The new:
(P)By.Sun: Possibly the best new protoss of the year with a 15-9 record 62%). His notable wins were against (T)BaBy, (Z)Calm, (T)Mind, (T)Light.

(Z)n.Die_soO: SoO ended the season losing to Stats, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t play protoss. He marked a 7 game winstreak against protoss to conclude the season. Going 19-10 (65%.52) on the season, SoO has proven to be a reliable SKT Zerg and has possibly changed the reputation for the team.

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Airforce ACE:
The Good:
(T)firebathero: Going 18-13 with a whopping 58% winrate, FBH has had something to say about the talent of ACE. The terran lineup for ACE is very strong. FBH proved this year that he even could handle the aggression of the protoss by going 8-4 defeating (P)Kal twice, (P)Tyson, (P)JangBi, and the Macro (Z)beast (P)BeSt.

(T)Iris: Berserker played insanely well this season going 10-8. He showed the BW fans that he has not fallen off the scene by joining ACE. His best wins coming against (P)Shuttle and (Z)great, (T)Iris should expect to see a lot more then 18 games next season and his many fans hope to see him dominate.

(Z)ggaemo: I think we all respect (Z)ggaemo a little bit more after his performance on ACE this season. While his overall record is still under 50%, seeing his turn around performance has been outstanding. Going 20-18, a solid 52%, he was able to establish himself as a top player for this ACE squad. While he may have lost to (Z)Jaedong and (T)Flash in order to keep the balance of PL, he went a respectable 8-6 against protoss establishing that as his best matchup.

The Bad:
(P)Rock: His record of 0-5 really says enough about Rock. But why is this important? Because less wins for (P)Rock means less ceremonies. We miss seeing his throat cutting gestures, but we’d all rather see ACE win and (P)Rock on the bench. He will soon be replaced by (P)Kal and a growing (P)M18M.

The New:
(T)Canata: He went 2-7 as he joinged the ACE crew. And he earned his record in a typical ACE fashion. However, Canata gained redemption as he took a team kill off (Z)s2 in his only meeting against SKT.

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Woongjin Stars:

The Good:
(Z)ZerO: Going 30-19 Zero has become Woongjin go to guy. He has become a reliable ace and brought some of the best games last season including an astounding upset against Flash in a playoff ace match. He also provided an exciting victory against (P)Bisu and an insane BvZ. He started the season off slow stringing together a 5 game losing streak and then showed great form by having only one other losing streak of a measily 3 games. His worst matchup last season was versus Protoss which stacked up a 58% winrate. He showed that he knew how to beat protoss in an end of the season pounding on (P)JangBi.

(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey: Woongjin Zergs are no laughing matter. (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey brought queens into the match up last season and made terrans regret mech. Watch any game versus (T)Fantasy to feel you’re whole body get major chills. SoulKey finished the season 28-15 at a respective 65% winrate. Nothing has been more exciting then seeing him grow under the guidance of (Z)ZerO.

The Bad:
(P)free: Quite possibly the most disappointing Protoss last season, Free went 15-20 with a horrid 42% win rate. It makes us sad to see such talent from 2009 to really fall of the wagon. No one can really explain how upsetting it was to see him lose 9 of his last 11 games and tank in the PL finals. (Z)Action should be embarrassed for losing to him.

The new:
(T)Light: While light is not new to the scene, he was the newest addition to the Woongjin lineup. He went 28-16 winning 63% of his games. Light was the perfect addition to this team. Bringing a new name to Woongjin terrans, he was the only player to go undefeated in the playoffs. Welcome to the Jungle Light, Woongjin is very happy to have such a solid terran.

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KT Rolster: PL Champions!!!!!...AGAIN!

The Good:
(T)Flash: 34-13 on the year, Flash has dominated once again with a 72% win rate. He has proven to be the final boss once again defeating (P)BeSt in the Grand Finals. He has shown again that his Terrran is virtually unbeatable (except against Leta) and that while still outstanding, protoss is still his weakest matchup. Last season (T)Flash struggled with a wrist injury and still managed to mark himself as player of the year. For KT fans, it must be fun loving this guy.

(P)Stats: (P)Violet getting sick was a hard hit for KT. They needed a new protoss hero and everyone looked to Stats. He stepped up to the plate and transformed into a solid hero becoming (T)Flash’s “Robin” in this "Batman and “Robin” duo. He went 27-20 last season and ended the playoff stomping 3 very great vP Zergs ((Z)ZerO, (P)SoO, and (Z)Hydra.) His worst streak being 4 games all season has established Stats as one of the most consistent PL players on the KT Roster.

The Bad:
(Z)Action: (Z)Action wins the bad award going 16-22. The mafia zerg has proven to be about conistent as the Atlanta Falcons this season. He has great potential to be a great Hive tech Zerg and became very popular in his long game versus (T)Flash. However, since he joined KT he has proven to do little for the regular season, but fortunately provided a few key wins among his many losses in the PL playoffs.

The New:
(Z)Crazy-Hydra: KT fans really hoped that adding CH would make KT the most dominate team. While he provided a 17-20 record, he managed to lose his last 4 playoff games. CH was traded during the season and KT won without him, but 2012 is going to put a lot more pressure on him to perform better. He did however, go 11-8 vZ and show that he has become a somewhat reliable sniper in that matchup.

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Kespa Dream Team (the left overs):

The good:
(Z)Jaedong: 29-14 for the season is yet another dominating year for the former OZ ace. With only a losing record this season to (P)Bisu and (P)Stork, JD finished with a win a winning record over almost every other player including a 2-0 finish versus (T)Flash. (Z)Jaedong has proven to be outstanding at vT at 70%winrate and even though his vZ has looked poor he still had a 68% win rate.

(T)Sea: (T)Sea finished 24-16 with a 60% win rate. He was definitely the second strongest player last year to join Team 8. While he may get nervous in the indivuals, (T)Sea has become a (P)Solid PL player. Upon (T)Review, (T)Sea could be seen as a vT titan with a 76% win rate he went 13-4 and proved to be Fantasy’s kryptonite all season long. Most notably, it is unfortunate for us BW fans that we never got to see him match up against Flash this PL and only saw him lose terribly in the OSL match to (T)Flash.

(T)BaBy: The third strongest player finished with a solid 18-15 (54%) win rate. (T)BaBy did not play (P)Stork or (T)Flash all season and lost one game to both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong. (T)BaBy has a lot to prove, but he seems immune to slumps only have a losing streak of 2 games all season. (T)BaBy fans can be happy with his performance so far, but he really needs to be tested by TBLS.

(P)Jaehoon: Our dream team captain not only has quite possibly the coolest hair in PL, but he also has a 65% winrate. This 23-12 protoss monster left nothing to be complained about. Looking back, his first game was a lost against Kwanro (a well missed player), but he took of some solid wins against (T)Midas, (T)sKyHigh, and (Z)Calm. While having a good record he managed to only run into and lose against Stork of the TBLS foursome. Everyone's eyes are on you (P)Jaehoon, will you become a (Z)Hyuk and captain your team to victory on the sidelines or become (T)Flash dive head first into every battle gaining victory after victory?

The Bad:
(Z)Killer : He may have been on the royal road but he did not contribute enough to OZ. Going 17-18 with a 48% winrate is not acceptable and for some reason he was sent as Ace more often then he should have. While (Z)Killer may have become a great player, he has yet to shine in PL.

The New:
(P)Tyson: 18-15 record with a 54% win rate has marked Tyson as the new protoss in town. If you hadn’t heard of (P)Tyson, he became well known in an epic match VT against (T)Flash. Bloody Ridge set the location for a great match against the titan. (P)Tyson proved he had great carrier control has he worked his way across the map in a slow and strenuous fashion. Clearly (P)Tyson has the talent to become a top dog protoss and with Team 8 to practice with we can only hope to see more of him.


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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 14 2011 01:11 GMT
#2
Im sorry but anyone know when will it start? I been waiting so much for this heh.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
November 14 2011 01:16 GMT
#3
On November 14 2011 10:11 ilj.psa wrote:
Im sorry but anyone know when will it start? I been waiting so much for this heh.


On November 13 2011 12:41 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 12:39 CosmicHippo wrote:
So when does the proleague start? today??

Rumored to start on either the 19th or the 26th, we're still waiting for confirmation on the date.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
November 14 2011 01:19 GMT
#4
Pretty comprehensive. Good job with this! My only issue is you should've put Horang2 in the CJ write up he was a tremendously improved player last season.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 14 2011 01:22 GMT
#5
im pretty sure jaedong played more matches than that: he won like similar to fantasy, and lost slightly less.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 14 2011 01:24 GMT
#6
lol so much wrong TLPD

should be:
n.Die_Soo
Neo.G_Soulkey
Killer (or 박준오)

nice wrap up overall though, great read

CAN'T WAIT FOR NEW SEASON OMFG
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 14 2011 01:26 GMT
#7
why are your stats messed up?
I realized that some poeple, JD and Flash in particular, are significantly short in matches. Fantasy seems to have gotten a full set.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 01:26 GMT
#8
why no (T)Mind ??
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9503 Posts
November 14 2011 01:28 GMT
#9
Wow, very nice post!

AND HOLY SHIT THIS SEASON IS GONNA BE SO GOOD

someone spotlight this imo to spread some christmas proleague spirit onto the TL!
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kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
November 14 2011 01:28 GMT
#10
Check the TL links, soulkey should be neo.g soulkey to get the zerg and not the terran, and violet should link to the BW violet thats toss not the sc2 violet thats zerg.

You forgot to mention (Z)Shine is going to be on khan, with him the zerg line should be decent, and Mind on KT is not to be overlooked though it seems that the 4 zergs strategy has been working, mind could give a post-surgery flash both a good practice partner as well as relief during game heavy weeks.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 14 2011 01:30 GMT
#11
oh i see, and SKT guy only giving full stats to skt players.
Someone will probably have it fixed. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9503 Posts
November 14 2011 01:30 GMT
#12
a tip when you're TLPD-izing your article: you can actually right click the TLPD-ize button and choose the BW Korean database. Should fix some of these errors.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
November 14 2011 01:31 GMT
#13
Good work, although you didn't take winner's league games into account.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:31:22
November 14 2011 01:31 GMT
#14
On November 14 2011 10:28 kdgns wrote:
Check the TL links, soulkey should be neo.g soulkey to get the zerg and not the terran, and violet should link to the BW violet thats toss not the sc2 violet thats zerg.

You forgot to mention (Z)Shine is going to be on khan, with him the zerg line should be decent, and Mind on KT is not to be overlooked though it seems that the 4 zergs strategy has been working, mind could give a post-surgery flash both a good practice partner as well as relief during game heavy weeks.



Fixed the TLPD issues. Also, since this is based on last year's performances, Shine definitely did not play well enough to be mentioned on the Good although he did not play terribly bad. Same applies to mind. If anything, I feel bad for leaving out Ror.
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rigelq
Profile Joined May 2010
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:33:45
November 14 2011 01:32 GMT
#15
On November 14 2011 10:19 Caladbolg wrote:
Pretty comprehensive. Good job with this! My only issue is you should've put Horang2 in the CJ write up he was a tremendously improved player last season.


Ya it was a great read but i think your forgot Horang2

Awesome work though this was well done! Love the images :D
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:34:46
November 14 2011 01:34 GMT
#16
On November 14 2011 10:19 Caladbolg wrote:
Pretty comprehensive. Good job with this! My only issue is you should've put Horang2 in the CJ write up he was a tremendously improved player last season.


(P)Horang2 did play great, in fact I considered adding him. The bottom line is, CJ had 4-5 players that were very good this past season and so they all deserve honorary mention imo. I am a bigger fan of (P)Horang2 as of last season.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 01:35 GMT
#17
I can't believe I am getting a headache by looking at the pictures only.......
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:35:59
November 14 2011 01:35 GMT
#18
SOLID POST. AMAZING.

Regarding Flash: "For KT fans, it must be fun loving this guy."


You have no idea haha.

I'm not gonna lie, if Flash wasn't on this team, I probably wouldn't be anywhere as big a fan. Especially after the Chintoss lost his chin... T_T_T_T_T_T_T
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
November 14 2011 01:37 GMT
#19
I have some issues to raise concerning the inconsistent statistics used.

Sometimes, you use the combined Proleague and Winners League stats (Bisu's 66-15 and Stork's 43-30), while for others you use only their Proleague stats. It looks strange for other players as the stats lead us to believe that they haven't played as many games.

Flash's 34-13 is his 2010-2011 Proleague stats, not his record for the year. It certainly gives the impression that Bisu played a ton better than everyone else. In reality, Flash comes close behind if you include his Winner's League's games where his overall record becomes 60-19.

Another slight nitpick: there is no mention of Best in the SKT section.

Sorry if I sounded critical. The article was a joy to read!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:47:33
November 14 2011 01:40 GMT
#20
On November 14 2011 10:37 _awake_ wrote:
I have some issues to raise concerning the inconsistent statistics used.

Sometimes, you use the combined Proleague and Winners League stats (Bisu's 66-15 and Stork's 43-30), while for others you use only their Proleague stats. It looks strange for other players as the stats lead us to believe that they haven't played as many games.

Flash's 34-13 is his 2010-2011 Proleague stats, not his record for the year. It certainly gives the impression that Bisu played a ton better than everyone else. In reality, Flash comes close behind if you include his Winner's League's games where his overall record becomes 60-19.

Another slight nitpick: there is no mention of Best in the SKT section.

Sorry if I sounded critical. The article was a joy to read!

Yeah, I should def fix that. I miss clicked on the leagues and put the winner's league numbers included in for a few lol. Such a long article, I should have paid better attention Ill fix it, thanks.

edit: Fixed the numbers to reflect PL stats AFAIK. Did not factor WL as WL is less important this new year.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 01:40 GMT
#21
@BisuDagger (Z)viOlet should be change to (P)Violet and not only we lost violet , (T)fOrGG and (Z)Luxury .It was really a tough time for kt ........
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 14 2011 01:47 GMT
#22
Only team I am worried about is STX and Woonjin, they seems to have the weakest lineup this time.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 01:49:32
November 14 2011 01:49 GMT
#23
On November 14 2011 10:40 Sawamura wrote:
@BisuDagger (Z)viOlet should be change to (P)Violet and not only we lost violet , (T)fOrGG and (Z)Luxury .It was really a tough time for kt ........


And Yellow! Tbh I thought the losses for KT deserved their own special mention. When I think about how much that team actually went through, I was almost teary eyed how happy I was to see them win it this year. So deserved!
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 01:54 GMT
#24
On November 14 2011 10:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 10:40 Sawamura wrote:
@BisuDagger (Z)viOlet should be change to (P)Violet and not only we lost violet , (T)fOrGG and (Z)Luxury .It was really a tough time for kt ........


And Yellow! Tbh I thought the losses for KT deserved their own special mention. When I think about how much that team actually went through, I was almost teary eyed how happy I was to see them win it this year. So deserved!


It was really hard to be a kt fan when we were getting trashed in 2010 all season T_T , Yes these victory was sweet , Especially we did it for (P)Violet . Hope to see him come back in action we miss him...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 14 2011 01:56 GMT
#25
You forgot the hoon, a very solid 23-12 record for him which is actually better than Sea's record and very close to JD's. Also kind of missing ggaemo, with his 20-18 record. Maybe others as well, I assume you had your reasons and you can't really include every player. Some of the stats are still weird but with such a large post, all is forgiven.

Anyway, good job, interesting read. HYPE!
Fly Jaedong, fly!
OlorinTheWise
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
November 14 2011 02:00 GMT
#26
On November 14 2011 10:07 BisuDagger wrote:
The Good: Entus has 3 top players averaging over a 60% winrate!

CJ had four top players with a win rate of over 60%, you forgot Horang2, who was 21-11 in the regular season (65.63%) and 27-16 including Winner's League (62.79%).
"Evil, be thou my good."
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 02:03 GMT
#27
Good review nonetheless, Nice job dagger
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 14 2011 02:09 GMT
#28
Your proleague W-L stats seem off for some players but other than that nice retrospective. Reading this just makes me want Brood War even more.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 14 2011 02:23 GMT
#29
Good write up. Other than missing a few players it was a good read. ^^
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 03:25:31
November 14 2011 02:31 GMT
#30
(P)Jaehoon went 30-23 (56.6%) last Proleague season. No mention of him?

edit:
oops, forgot to include winner's league.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
November 14 2011 02:32 GMT
#31
Spotlighted.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 14 2011 02:38 GMT
#32
haha, nice pictures :D
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 03:16:40
November 14 2011 03:16 GMT
#33
Pretty sure Bisu had over 50 wins... None of your records seem to include Winners League stats? Am I crazy?
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Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
November 14 2011 03:28 GMT
#34
Would have been a better write up if you didn't leave out a third of the season. :S
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 14 2011 03:41 GMT
#35
I like the CJ team pic. Effort looks so good surrounded by his teammates.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#36
cool write up, best part was the pictures (holy shit dinosaurs)
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 14 2011 04:12 GMT
#37
Every new thread about PL *Sniff Sniff*

Poll: Can you smell that??

wlhnsdlkfyesoi34u5o34iu5jt!!~~~~~~~!!! (100)
 
85%

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! (12)
 
10%

Yes! (5)
 
4%

117 total votes

Your vote: Can you smell that??

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
(Vote): wlhnsdlkfyesoi34u5o34iu5jt!!~~~~~~~!!!



I'm gonna post this poll..

FUCK YEAH CAN'T WAIT .. Willing to wait .. and Zero's face is still menacing ..
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catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
November 14 2011 04:15 GMT
#38
awesome read! thank you! :D
^^
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
November 14 2011 04:25 GMT
#39
I'm so exicted! I gotta fuck with my sleep schedule so that I'm up from 4am EST until 8pm EST.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 04:42:38
November 14 2011 04:41 GMT
#40
Thanks for this, but I've got to say I was distracted by the number of mistakes.

EDIT: Wait, this is a spotlighted thread, not news. My mistake. I generally have higher standards for actual news posts.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
November 14 2011 04:46 GMT
#41
Very nice post. But fix up the TLPD stuff.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 14 2011 05:03 GMT
#42
Just a few more corrections to point out.

- get rid of the "VT" TLPD link under Stork.
- Bisu's regular PL record is 36-5, not 26-5. Also, if you're not going to count WL stats, his vT record is 10-0, not 20-0.
- Give CrazyHydra a TLPD link.
- Remove the TLPD links to "Lost ONE" under Dream Team.

And why aren't you counting WL anyway? There's been no official info released on the number of rounds, or what type they'll be. For all we know, it could easily be 3 normal PL rounds, 2 WL.
Writer:o
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
November 14 2011 05:33 GMT
#43
Very excited for this season! can't wait to see more BW games
Long live BroodWar!
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 14 2011 06:17 GMT
#44
sad you didn't do this post in the format of the 10-11 teams... HWASUNGOZFOREVER
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 14 2011 06:17 GMT
#45
but still a really good post !!!!!!!! all the teams look better than ever coming into this season!!!!!
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
November 14 2011 06:20 GMT
#46
Tippany?
Wait what are we talking about?
Oh yea, omg so hyped for new season. This BW drought is killing me. Nice writeup!
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 07:04:49
November 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#47
The New: Bogus

But Bogus is not a New player, he played at 08-09 season and he had a nice stats at 09-10 season
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#48
Great write-up

On November 14 2011 15:58 WTFTerran wrote:
The New: Bogus

But Bogus is not a New player, he played at 08-09 season and he had a nice stats at 09-10 season

Not just new as in new players (rookies, new to team) he is also referring to break-out performances from previously below average players.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
November 14 2011 07:50 GMT
#49
I can't even read this. The blatant factual errors stand out just by glancing at the text :/
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
November 14 2011 08:28 GMT
#50
Sick article! Thank you, I'm so pumped for Proleague. Can't wait to see Team 8 perform.
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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
November 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#51
Great article lol, who's the random girls beside Tossgirl? Kespa team fighting!!!!
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#52
On November 14 2011 10:56 kuroshiroi wrote:
You forgot the hoon, a very solid 23-12 record for him which is actually better than Sea's record and very close to JD's. Also kind of missing ggaemo, with his 20-18 record. Maybe others as well, I assume you had your reasons and you can't really include every player. Some of the stats are still weird but with such a large post, all is forgiven.

Anyway, good job, interesting read. HYPE!

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GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
November 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#53
can't wait for PL and best of all FANTASY PL!!!

decent write up, but make sure to proofread a few times before posting. not trying to be mean, but just trying to say keep it professional
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
November 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#54
SoulKey did not grow under the guidance of SoulKey

"Nothing has been more exciting then seeing him grow under the guidance of SoulKey."

stats : Not sure in ententional, bud I would write it like this :
original : “Robin” in this Batman and “Robin”
me : “Robin” in this "Batman and Robin”

Well and sadly a lot of TLPD errors.

Dont take it the wrong way, thank you very much for the write-up :D

Where is my ACE flair
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 13:13:49
November 14 2011 11:03 GMT
#55
On November 14 2011 18:45 Tufas wrote:
SoulKey did not grow under the guidance of SoulKey

"Nothing has been more exciting then seeing him grow under the guidance of SoulKey."

stats : Not sure in ententional, bud I would write it like this :
original : “Robin” in this Batman and “Robin”
me : “Robin” in this "Batman and Robin”

Well and sadly a lot of TLPD errors.

Dont take it the wrong way, thank you very much for the write-up :D


None taken. The only way to become good at writing these articles is to take criticism from knowledgable people. I plan on going thru after work today and fixing all my mistakes so I can have a better article.

Addressing the winners league stats. When searching I initially searched team games played btw 2010-2011 and used those stats. I obviously did SKT first as this article was originally gonna be about them. Then when I expanded I found out there was a 10-11 shinhan bank proleague button and started to use that. Btw making the art and writing the stats all in one day I didn't notice that shinhan bank pl button didn't include winners league.

Ill will provide better and more accurate news in the future, thanks for being patient with me and I hope you have taken enjoyment from it regardless of the errors. SKT fighting!

edit: fixed most errors
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#56
I didn't see the Alien at first (because of the light hitting the monitor) but when I did I laughed haha
Fun read, good job BisuDagger
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 14 2011 16:48 GMT
#57
Nice edits :D

Definitely much improved now, great job!
Fly Jaedong, fly!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
November 14 2011 17:31 GMT
#58
Well apart from what people are poiting out (and if I may add you have Hyrda in the CJ section and KTViolet as the sc2 zerg instead of BW Protoss) this is amazing

Great read, effective in generating even more HYPE and a nice review to put things in perspective before the start of the new season. Good job sir, and the Alien thing was nice. Im really excited to see how EffOrt will perform this season. We have such a deep team again, lets see if this is our year! CJ fighting!

Only a few days away but it seems so faaaaaar T.T
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 17:56:31
November 14 2011 17:49 GMT
#59
On November 15 2011 02:31 KobraKay wrote:
Well apart from what people are poiting out (and if I may add you have Hyrda in the CJ section and KTViolet as the sc2 zerg instead of BW Protoss) this is amazing

Great read, effective in generating even more HYPE and a nice review to put things in perspective before the start of the new season. Good job sir, and the Alien thing was nice. Im really excited to see how EffOrt will perform this season. We have such a deep team again, lets see if this is our year! CJ fighting!

Only a few days away but it seems so faaaaaar T.T

Confused about that comment, fixed the rest.

On November 15 2011 02:49 Taekwon wrote:
Wow, excellent organization and write up.
Banners, everything is great!

Must've took a lot of work.
This makes me ever prouder to be an STX

Yeah, I really wish I could have done more for STX. Their section was really lacking but so were they last year. I pray to god they can throw it down with the big dogs and keep the pool of teams exciting! All eyes are on Calm imo to be the the team Ace.
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
November 14 2011 17:49 GMT
#60
Wow, excellent organization and write up.
Banners, everything is great!

Must've took a lot of work.
This makes me ever prouder to be an STX
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 14 2011 18:01 GMT
#61
I wish STX would recruit Hiya. It's such a pity that someone of his ability is without a team. Same goes for Pusan. What's a coach like that doing streaming on Afreeca everyday, letting netizens criticize him. urgh.
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 18:29:33
November 14 2011 18:24 GMT
#62
Excellent post! You really got me hyped for the new season!

Your statistical analysis only confirms what I think: CJ is gonna be top dog this year. You cannot have so many players above 60% winrate and not take #1 (except perhaps during Winners League when Bisu and Flash defeat everyone). Not to mention the return of Effort. As good as Hydra was last year, the guy couldn't beat Flash if his life depended on it. Effort can simultaneously train Hydra to beat Flash while kicking his own ass. CJ is scary.

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.

Khan will show Protoss power though, and win the title even if they have to do it from a #4 seed.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
November 14 2011 18:35 GMT
#63
On November 15 2011 02:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 02:31 KobraKay wrote:
Well apart from what people are poiting out (and if I may add you have Hyrda in the CJ section and KTViolet as the sc2 zerg instead of BW Protoss) this is amazing

Great read, effective in generating even more HYPE and a nice review to put things in perspective before the start of the new season. Good job sir, and the Alien thing was nice. Im really excited to see how EffOrt will perform this season. We have such a deep team again, lets see if this is our year! CJ fighting!

Only a few days away but it seems so faaaaaar T.T

Confused about that comment, fixed the rest.


Hum its not there...either it was Hyrda and you fixed it before I posted to Hydra...or Im just stupid and misread twice =/

Sorry about that then.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
November 14 2011 18:38 GMT
#64
STX should offer hiya a years supply of freely shipped magikarp to recruit him
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 14 2011 18:45 GMT
#65
Question to anyone:
Why nobody has pick Hiya already !!!
Tekken ProGamer
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 19:44:24
November 14 2011 19:31 GMT
#66
On November 15 2011 03:45 therockmanxx wrote:
Question to anyone:
Why nobody has pick Hiya already !!!


HIYA TO KHAN! They got Shine, if they got a solid Terran... suddenly every team is fuckin terrifyingly strong! This season just might be the most exciting one EVER!!! WOWOWOW I just pooped

EDIT:
My predictions on the outcome of the 11-12 season:
#1 - Dream Team!
They are all hot blooded and ready to tear shit apart. bo5 format = JD/Sea/Baby ez win
#2 - CJ
A sic solid deep team
#3 - Woonjin
/fanboyism, and zero is so cute
#4 - KT
I just don't think Flash's team will be able to back him up this time. Where the other teams non-aces were a bit shaky last season, the entire roster of teams seem to have increased in skill. I don't think Flash will be able to carry the team to victory with the depth of the other line-ups
#5 - SKT
I love Bisu, but don't think he will do as well as he did last season. Without Bisu insanity, they will fall to mediocrity.
#6 - Khan
Actually, if Hiya goes to Khan I think theres a chance they could come out on top 3. Shine is already an awesome addition to their line up, but maybe not enough to put them high in the ranks.
#7 - ACE!
IRIS and FBH
#8 - STX
Bogus
jaedong imba
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
November 14 2011 19:32 GMT
#67
This season is going to be so awesome! With Flash unable to practice during his surgery and recovery, Stats is going to have to step up to the plate and become the team's pocket ace. Also can't wait to see manner FBH playing again. Does anyone have the map list for next season?
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
November 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#68
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
November 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#69
Pics make this thread worth it.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
November 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#70
Flash/Stats/Mind/Wooki is scary as Jaedong/BaBy/Sea/Killer
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 14 2011 21:32 GMT
#71
Very cool post, I'm excited to see a whole season role out, I only watched at the end last time.
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potatoedoughnut
Profile Joined July 2008
United States334 Posts
November 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#72
I'm excited! Can't wait for PL to get under way.
Eagles may soar, but weasels do not get sucked into jet engines.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#73
On November 15 2011 05:32 cklrkzk wrote:
Flash/Stats/Mind/Wooki is scary as Jaedong/BaBy/Sea/Killer


I see your imba teams and raise you a Stork/JangBi/Grape/RoRo.

Yes, Grape. This guy is the real deal, as you all will soon see.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#74
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
November 15 2011 02:21 GMT
#75
On November 15 2011 11:10 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.

True that, I def need proofreading skills lol, but Ill get better. My newest thread is an improvement as far as errors. And I love that Tossgirl is still good enought to get paid as a practice partner on STX.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 15 2011 02:24 GMT
#76
You guys think kt have only flash and stats ??? we have freaking MIND who was supposed to be the next terran bonjwa backing us up right now . 2011 proleague is going to be exciting indeed . KT 3peat baby !.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 02:43:28
November 15 2011 02:43 GMT
#77
On November 15 2011 11:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 11:10 Torenhire wrote:
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.

True that, I def need proofreading skills lol, but Ill get better. My newest thread is an improvement as far as errors. And I love that Tossgirl is still good enought to get paid as a practice partner on STX.


didn't tossgirl switch to sc2 a bit ago? although she wasn't mentioned in that retiree thread though...
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 15 2011 02:44 GMT
#78
On November 15 2011 11:43 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 11:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:10 Torenhire wrote:
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.

True that, I def need proofreading skills lol, but Ill get better. My newest thread is an improvement as far as errors. And I love that Tossgirl is still good enought to get paid as a practice partner on STX.


didn't tossgirl switch to sc2 a bit ago? although she wasn't mentioned in that retiree thread though...


What?

What.

how am I supposed to argue that we're the best team if we don't have tossgirl anymore. It's all we got going for us as of the end of last season! :p

I was gonna make an "STX will win Proleague 11-12" with just that one line in it but I don't think it'd go over well...
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 02:57:50
November 15 2011 02:55 GMT
#79
On November 15 2011 11:43 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 11:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:10 Torenhire wrote:
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.

True that, I def need proofreading skills lol, but Ill get better. My newest thread is an improvement as far as errors. And I love that Tossgirl is still good enought to get paid as a practice partner on STX.


didn't tossgirl switch to sc2 a bit ago? although she wasn't mentioned in that retiree thread though...


She was invited to play in a sc2 match in shanghai pavilion expo , that doesn't mean she is going to retire =.= .
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143688 and also invited to play in to sc2 3d competition
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=258399
You made my love tossgirl heart sank a bit , come on she is a freaking beauty, I still have *cough* dreams of her at night . Besides that I believe tossgirl still shouldn't be cut out of the hype thread for stx will win the proleague 2011-2012 .


She really looks good in that uniform *drools*
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KRaver
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1264 Posts
November 15 2011 03:11 GMT
#80
Nicely done . . .thanks for the hard work !

CAN'T WAIT FOR PROLEAGUE TO START ! ! !
Duo Maxwell: If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
November 15 2011 03:11 GMT
#81
On November 15 2011 11:55 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 11:43 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:10 Torenhire wrote:
On November 15 2011 04:56 Ideas wrote:
On November 15 2011 03:24 Crisium wrote:

Poor STX. They are basically Bogus only, with some Shuttle support. If only Calm would remember that he was an MSL winner.



I think if there are indeed fewer games per week in PL, calm will be able to show a better performance. he has always done better when he has more time to prepare for a match.


Well there are only 3 matches a week now, right? :D

Post is awesome, but I might recommend getting a proof-read buddy next time ^^;;



Also STX is the best team because we've got a girl. sup.

True that, I def need proofreading skills lol, but Ill get better. My newest thread is an improvement as far as errors. And I love that Tossgirl is still good enought to get paid as a practice partner on STX.


didn't tossgirl switch to sc2 a bit ago? although she wasn't mentioned in that retiree thread though...


She was invited to play in a sc2 match in shanghai pavilion expo , that doesn't mean she is going to retire =.= .
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143688 and also invited to play in to sc2 3d competition
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=258399
You made my love tossgirl heart sank a bit , come on she is a freaking beauty, I still have *cough* dreams of her at night . Besides that I believe tossgirl still shouldn't be cut out of the hype thread for stx will win the proleague 2011-2012 .


She really looks good in that uniform *drools*
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I wish more STX players would wear that outfit.
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WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
November 15 2011 04:24 GMT
#82
i think STX do not want to buy a Magikarp because Classic and Bogus are OK. However, they got Last too but he is not good
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:51:18
November 15 2011 05:49 GMT
#83
On November 15 2011 05:32 cklrkzk wrote:
Flash/Stats/Mind/Wooki is scary as Jaedong/BaBy/Sea/Killer

Yeah KT looks nigh unbeatable until you look some of the other teams. If Stork and Jangbi play at their peak level, then there are 5 close contenders for the title: KT, SKT, team octopus, CJ and Khan. Woongjin looks pretty good as well except they haven't been bolstered by any new players. CJ made it to the semi finals without Effort, SKT only narrowly lost (could have ended 4-0 if not for a ZvZ) and the dream team is obviously OP.

edit: Close competition and fewer games per week will probably make the season even better than the last.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
November 15 2011 06:09 GMT
#84
woo proleague! how we've missed you!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
November 15 2011 23:43 GMT
#85
CJ and The Dream Team are looking great, can't wait for the Proleague!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 16 2011 00:41 GMT
#86
87% win rate, drool. Heres to a year of individual titles Bisuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

But go team 8, seriously.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
November 17 2011 00:33 GMT
#87
The number of wins seems wrong for a few people. Bisu had 63 wins, if I remember correctly (which would increase his win-rate percentage, as well), and Flash had more than 50. Could it be that, by mistake, only the games from 2011 were considered, failing to take into account the games from the end of 2010?
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
November 17 2011 00:38 GMT
#88
By the way, these are great articles that you wrote for TL recently. They are much appreciated!
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 17 2011 01:18 GMT
#89
On November 17 2011 09:33 The Intrepid wrote:
The number of wins seems wrong for a few people. Bisu had 63 wins, if I remember correctly (which would increase his win-rate percentage, as well), and Flash had more than 50. Could it be that, by mistake, only the games from 2011 were considered, failing to take into account the games from the end of 2010?


30 of Bisu's wins were from Winner's League. OP decided to include only the games from the regular rounds of PL.
Writer:o
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
November 17 2011 01:36 GMT
#90
On November 17 2011 10:18 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:33 The Intrepid wrote:
The number of wins seems wrong for a few people. Bisu had 63 wins, if I remember correctly (which would increase his win-rate percentage, as well), and Flash had more than 50. Could it be that, by mistake, only the games from 2011 were considered, failing to take into account the games from the end of 2010?


30 of Bisu's wins were from Winner's League. OP decided to include only the games from the regular rounds of PL.

this^.


On November 17 2011 09:38 The Intrepid wrote:
By the way, these are great articles that you wrote for TL recently. They are much appreciated!

Thanks, I have one in on the way hopefully. It's currently the last of my series of ideas I had. Should be epic if I can do it. Regardless, everyone get Hyped!
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