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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 18 2011 06:10 GMT
#641
Troll title, "Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, F-"

T___T
:)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 18 2011 06:13 GMT
#642
On October 18 2011 15:06 ShadeR wrote:
Wisdom. FireBatHero

Q:Why does a man live?
A: You are mistaken if you think you are living. You are currently dying. You're just creeping towards death little by little. Your life is limited by time. Haha. I am still figuring out my dream. I am dying, but I want to achieve my dream. Everyone fighting~!


Firebathero had some crazy shit going on since he went to Ace, I think he once made an analogy about water can break a rock or something.
WriterXiao8~~
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 06:15:26
October 18 2011 06:13 GMT
#643
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.

on side note, didn't I read somewhere Jaedong was interested in joining team IM... that would be pretty sick indeed since they are recruiting.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 18 2011 06:19 GMT
#644
On October 18 2011 15:13 FidoDido wrote:
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.
.


Comparing Yellow and these four is pretty ridiculous in the first place.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
October 18 2011 06:20 GMT
#645
HOLLYYYYY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Sorry for all caps spam there, wow, biggest nerd chills of my entire life

I wait in anticipation for what this is all about!!!
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
October 18 2011 06:30 GMT
#646
i'd love a sc2 showmatch ^^
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
October 18 2011 06:33 GMT
#647
A direct 1:1 comparison between Korean esports passion and non Korean esports passion cannot be made; there are too many cultural and economic differences at play. Right now the foreigner SC2 scene is very large, and still growing, but it hasn't reached "mainstream" status like BW in Korea. In the US for instance, the most popular videogames are Madden and Call Of Duty; both are mainstream games with huge audiences, but they don't dominate the entertainment scene. Gaming and esports have their own growing market in the US and other countries, and that's fine.

With respect to Korea, while esports is losing popularity the scene won't simply die off. Sponsors and teams will begin cutting back, and that should coincide with SC2 getting more leagues and television exposure. So while SC2 will most likely not be as big as BW, it's going to replace it as the top esport in the land eventually.

The global popularity of SC2 also will give Koreans quite an impressive revenue stream from sponsors as well as tournaments. We're definitely going to see more and more Koreans traveling to the US, Europe, and China to compete for huge prizes - larger prizes than will be available in Korea I bet, at least initially. It's going to be a beautiful thing, and I can't wait to see it happen. We're already seeing many foreign teams get serious about competing, and this month we've witnessed multiple foreigners beating good Koreans for top spots. If that continues the scene will get even bigger, and more sponsors will come.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 18 2011 06:40 GMT
#648
Wow, I can imagine how big this is, even though I wasn't a BW follower
Lucky guys at Blizzcon getting everything...MVP, MMA, BW pros...
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#649
theyd better be playing some brood war
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
October 18 2011 06:54 GMT
#650
This is pretty awesome, I wonder what Kespa has to say about it though. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have been possible without their cooperation.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
October 18 2011 07:01 GMT
#651
On October 18 2011 15:13 FidoDido wrote:
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.

on side note, didn't I read somewhere Jaedong was interested in joining team IM... that would be pretty sick indeed since they are recruiting.


Not sure if trolling....
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
October 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#652
I honestly think that a BW game ain't going to happen at all.

I'm super excited to see them playing SC2 and I expect to see some fancy strategies ^^. I'm sure some of them will come up with a new, revamped, SC2 strategy.
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
October 18 2011 07:10 GMT
#653
On October 18 2011 16:01 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 15:13 FidoDido wrote:
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.

on side note, didn't I read somewhere Jaedong was interested in joining team IM... that would be pretty sick indeed since they are recruiting.


Not sure if trolling....


its on the front page of team liquid, so it must be about sc2 because team liquid is a sc2 site
I drop suckas like Plinko
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 18 2011 07:20 GMT
#654
On October 18 2011 15:44 Legatus Lanius wrote:
theyd better be playing some brood war


or what ...

you do not own these players, they are free to do what pleases them.

OT:

Happy to see them comming to Blizzcon i don't care why even, might be just promotion or some showmatches of BW or SC2 ... hell maybe even some D3 would be awsome :D
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
October 18 2011 07:22 GMT
#655
On October 18 2011 16:10 Gann1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:01 Za7oX wrote:
On October 18 2011 15:13 FidoDido wrote:
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.

on side note, didn't I read somewhere Jaedong was interested in joining team IM... that would be pretty sick indeed since they are recruiting.


Not sure if trolling....


its on the front page of team liquid, so it must be about sc2 because team liquid is a sc2 site


What is? Jaedong joining IM or that top SC1 pro's wont do well in SC2?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Fushin
Profile Joined June 2010
France193 Posts
October 18 2011 07:25 GMT
#656
Daaamn, I really wish i was in the us and able to attend : /

I think letting them play BW would be perceived as an opening to blizzard to Kespa, a way to recognize BW is still alive and that Blizzard want it to stay that way.

Making them play SC2 would be quite the opposite.

Making them play anything else or nothing, would just be neutral, and I hate Neutral : you never know what those freaks think...

Still interesting news.
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
October 18 2011 07:27 GMT
#657
Honestly, the most likely reason will be a HotS or WoL showmatch. Surprise will be BW, but I highly doubt that.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
October 18 2011 07:27 GMT
#658
poor stork...only one of tbls to not receive an invite
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
October 18 2011 07:30 GMT
#659
On October 18 2011 09:27 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:15 bardtown wrote:
On October 18 2011 09:09 Devolved wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:44 bardtown wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:37 McPricE wrote:
OK I'm sure i'm running the risk of getting superflamed here but I read this ENTIRE thread and now my interest in this sc2/BW debate is truly piqued. I never played BW. I played original starcraft in like 1999 when it was new a few times only b/c back then I played war2 religiously and wanted to see what it was like. My opinion was meh where the bloodlust. Then my RTS gaming then took a 10+ year break so I obv missed out on all the BW greatness, which I don't at all doubt for a second.

Now, riddle me this - why do BW aficionados LOATHE sc2 so much?? I mean it seems to me Its really an acidic, vehement hatred that seems to say sc2 has the complexity and depth of a well done iphone app RTS. Shouldn't we save our collective ridicule for people who play wow and call of duty? I just wanna know some of the fundamental reasons why the old guard so despises these so-called 'sc2 kids'. Maybe link me a thread or two, I'd really like to know more about this. I really do love sc2 and I want to know why such a large number of die-hards with intrinsically valid opinions and viewpoints do not. I mean I've heard some things. I get that there are the skill ceiling implications w/ APM, control groups are simple, no SCV autorallying to mine, 1a blob vs blob engagements etc etc. But it has to be more than that...? Right??

Anyways imo whatever you game Esports fighting ftw


I think BW players are probably a bit apprehensive because if these players were to switch to SC2, it would be a huge blow to the future of BW.
Still, I don't think that justifies the ganking of legitimate comments of people who want to see them switch. Also, it's just a fallacious argument to say that a BW player who was ranked above MVP in BW will be able to outcompete him in SC2. To say that is to completely ignore the level of MVP's play. Nada, Boxer and July were top BW players, but they're not really close to MVP in SC2.

Throughout SC:BW's history, the level of play continually increased. Boxer used to be the best, but even at his best he couldn't compete with the top pros nowadays. Nada took over the reigns after Boxer and he was the best for a while, but the level of play continued to increase. These guys didn't drop off the BW map because they got worse, rather because everyone around them got better. I know it may be blasphemous to say, but even though MVP never had any great accomplishments in BW like July or Boxer or Nada, his level of play at the time he switched was higher than aforementioned players' levels at their peaks. MVP was better at BW than July or Boxer or Nada, but so was everyone else he was playing against so he never had the results of those players. It's similar to Fruitdealer in SC2.


All right, I understand. Well I definitely hope to see some top BW players moving over then. Honestly MVP looks so damn strong, but what's clear as well is that we're not even seeing close to the skill ceiling in SC2, particularly in the late game. Would be nice to see some BW mechanics really revolutionise it.

Still, I need to see it to believe it!

Edit: Incidentally, anybody know the skill level of MMA in BW?


And here's the counter argument, Ganzi and Supernova were both A-team Terrans in BW, while MMA was a B-teamer. The background helps, but it isn't a sure-fire thing.

What's funny is how many of the old BW players switched *from* Terran (Genius, Idra, Losira). Can you imagine how much qq-ing we'd have about Terran over-representation in SC2 if they hadn't race switched?

Then again, MKP was a Protoss in BW. So imagine how different things would be if he hadn't switched over.


Ganzi and SaiR were just as much b-teamers as MMA (1988) was. Well maybe slightly less because they actually occasionally played some PL but they weren't ever a-team
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
October 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#660
On October 18 2011 16:22 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:10 Gann1 wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:01 Za7oX wrote:
On October 18 2011 15:13 FidoDido wrote:
IM just as excited as everyone else but I hope people don't forget what happened when Yellow tried to switch over. things might not go as well as everyone hopes them to be. Just don't get your hopes up. Sc2 is a very different game from BW. even thought he mechanics haven't changed too much.

on side note, didn't I read somewhere Jaedong was interested in joining team IM... that would be pretty sick indeed since they are recruiting.


Not sure if trolling....


its on the front page of team liquid, so it must be about sc2 because team liquid is a sc2 site


What is? Jaedong joining IM or that top SC1 pro's wont do well in SC2?


i'm talking about the people coming in here talking about sc2 when this news really isn't related to sc2 at all
I drop suckas like Plinko
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