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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 17 2011 22:17 GMT
#421
On October 18 2011 07:13 McKTenor13 wrote:
I know they'll be there to play Brood War, but the SC2 love in me hopes they get to witness how crazy they fans go for the Starcraft 2 gamers here in America. It'll be a nice glimpse into the future for them.


Have fun duplicating any form of this. You honestly speak as if you haven't heard how flipping insane BW crowds get.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 17 2011 22:22 GMT
#422
On October 18 2011 07:16 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:50 Jaxtyk wrote:
If jaedong ever switches to sc2, my life is complete

Less of this. This is why it's annoying when things are spotlighted, much as I like the news to be accessible. Please keep this opinion to yourself.

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 07:13 McKTenor13 wrote:
I know they'll be there to play Brood War, but the SC2 love in me hopes they get to witness how crazy they fans go for the Starcraft 2 gamers here in America. It'll be a nice glimpse into the future for them.

The future? Just.. no.

hahaha BW players in denial of the future

User was temp banned for this post.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 17 2011 22:23 GMT
#423
Eh, I kinda don't like the growing tension between BW fans and SC2 fans in this thread, but I guess opinions are opinions and are subject to debate.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 17 2011 22:24 GMT
#424
On October 18 2011 07:17 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 07:13 McKTenor13 wrote:
I know they'll be there to play Brood War, but the SC2 love in me hopes they get to witness how crazy they fans go for the Starcraft 2 gamers here in America. It'll be a nice glimpse into the future for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IbwjeCx6U
Have fun duplicating any form of this. You honestly speak as if you haven't heard how flipping insane BW crowds get.

Dude Jangbi's semis and the finals for the last OSL........ crowds were INSANE!! All you could hear is the screams :D
Jaedong.
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
October 17 2011 22:24 GMT
#425
On October 18 2011 07:10 MrSandman wrote:
Because Brood War pros aren't allowed to play other computer games for fun?

Ask nada what happened when he played some sc2 at IEM gamescom :>
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SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
October 17 2011 22:27 GMT
#426
On October 18 2011 03:15 JiPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 03:14 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
why does this have to be on the west coast


Because West Coast is the Best Coast. :D


oh lawd... i knew as soon as I hit the post button that this would be the response :D
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:29:22
October 17 2011 22:28 GMT
#427
Calling it now, Jaedong, Jangbi, Fantasy and Bisu were invited to showcase Blizzard's new PvP in the upcoming MMO "Titan."

In all seriousness, as much as I don't think it will happen I hope they are there for some BW showmatches and not as a marketing tool for Blizzard to further promote SC2 to Korean audiences.
VonBlucher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States108 Posts
October 17 2011 22:33 GMT
#428
You know, it'd be pretty fun if they played SC2:BW, the custom map, with all the control group restrictions and anti-MBS. Some fun show matches bridging the old and the new, I know that's not the case, but would still be very cool.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
October 17 2011 22:33 GMT
#429
On October 18 2011 06:07 .vid wrote:
if they make jd, jb, fanta and bisu play sc2 i'll implode from rage


The more I think about it, the more I think top BW players playing SC2 would be good news for BW fans. KeSPA fucking loathes SC2. If they're okay with Blizz getting a PR coup like that, then Blizz probably gave them something pretty big. With both EG and Quantic Gaming hyping big announcements, I'm starting to wonder if there isn't actually something more going on. Though those are probably coincidences.

I really am starting to believe Blizz agreed to support BW if KeSPA agreed to support SC2. And there's no reason for fans of either game to be unhappy about that. Ebony and Ivory living in harmony, etc.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:35:04
October 17 2011 22:34 GMT
#430
On October 18 2011 06:12 Devolved wrote:
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On October 18 2011 05:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 18 2011 05:36 L_Master wrote:
Most of us will be interested to see them play the new game.


Certainly. It would be interesting indeed to see what truly top notch mechanics can do with a game like SC2. Of course, if they haven't played enough SC2 to have some familiarity and skill at the game it might be uninteresting. Basically, if they have played some and have a good idea how the game is played this would be pretty awesome, if not, not so much.

Its a new age and current esports needs them to transfer over.


Not convinced here. SC2 doesn't really need this, and it would be a pretty brutal blow to BW if several of the absolute top switched over.

Pretty disappointed in alot of you BW guys though. The amount of BW > sc2 eliteism/snobbery in this thread is depressing. Normally I think BW group does a pretty solid job of quality posting, but when it comes to the mention of sc2, that seems to fall be the wayside.




I don't think there's a collective BW hive mind that tells BW elitists to go do things, but a lot of the responses were basically because people were speculating for no reason. I also don't think the elitism is overwhelming in the slightest.

There's nothing wrong with people saying they don't want to see Bisu/Jaedong/etc playing SC2. In fact, there's good reason to not want to watch it.

True elitism/snobbery would be if everyone in this thread said "Yeah, BW players gonna go roflstomp all of you SC2 noobies because BW is real game and you guys play fake".

I don't think anyone has made that comment yet, so it's pretty good, considering that the reaction could've been much worse.


On October 18 2011 05:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
Even if they do play SC2, I really do not anticipate much skill difference at all. In fact if Blizzard invite any of current good SC2 pros as opponent, I will expect an roflstomp. SC1 and SC2 are fundamentally different RTS and I never understood why people think pro's skill will have perfect conversion rate; especially when one of their greatest weapons - mechanics - have less significance. Yes, there are tactical experience (which I guess is more important because from MLG I gander single engagement can be the game-decider) but those come over time.

Also I knew BW trolls were going to flame SC2 and take away our already rather debatable "moral superiority", heh.


How have people been flaming SC2? There are just people who don't want SC2 showmatches, and instead want BW.

There also might not be perfect conversion, but there's a reason why the Koreans, even though they were second rate mediocre players in competitive BW, are at the top of the game. And it's not just because their practice routines are a lot better than foreign routines.

Then what is the reason Koreans are better? Are you saying they have some innate ability encoded into their DNA that allows them to perform better at real-time-strategy games?


The point is that the Koreans have been better than us for a long time. Honestly, the practice routine probably has a lot to do with it, so I'll give you that.

I'm going to take the words of a friend whose philosophy is "once a baddy always a baddy". The foreign BW scene rarely had anyone in A rank on ICCup (and TSL 2 doesn't count), and the reason why is because in Korea, you had a bunch of players practicing for the Courage tournament to make a shot at all the pros. So don't even try comparing foreign BW with B teamers except in rare occasions.

So naturally, when SC2 comes out and all the B teamers who have better mechanics, game sense, tactics, etc switch over, it makes sense that the Koreans are owning us.

Also, to those saying: "Why don't you want pro-BW players playing SC2?"

The answer is rhetorical. Pro-BW players should play BW. It's what they're good at. Playing SC2 will lose all entertainment value outside of lolz. And that's not interesting either.

At least that's what it is for me. For me, I find no entertainment value watching SC2 (relatively) to BW. If other people want to whine about games, fine, but these are personal preferences that I'm sure is reflective of a lot of people who don't want to see them playing SC2.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 17 2011 22:38 GMT
#431
On October 18 2011 07:24 .vid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 07:10 MrSandman wrote:
Because Brood War pros aren't allowed to play other computer games for fun?

Ask nada what happened when he played some sc2 at IEM gamescom :>

That was back when KeSPA and Blizzard were still in legal battle. Wasn't it rumored that Blizzard have been consulting with KeSPA on how to make HoTS more eSports friendly? This could be just one of the results of that, sending a couple of BW players to test out HoTS.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:40:47
October 17 2011 22:39 GMT
#432
On October 18 2011 07:10 MrSandman wrote:
Okay...read some of the other comments. Surprised to see a lack of the word epic, also suprised to see a lot of the word rage.

It is good to note that Bw fans are just as silly as Sc2 fans when it comes to their idols. Who sees news like this and their first thought is "Blizzard is going to force them to play a different computer game against their will".

Because Brood War pros aren't allowed to play other computer games for fun? I agree with the people who suggest that they may play some show matches in both games because they might just like both. If you play Call of Duty for 11 years and then Battlefield comes out, I think you'd try that before some completely different other game.

Anyway I'll be looking for some blogs detailing blizzcon experiences, anyone up for it?


HOW many people actually said "OH NO THEY'LL FORCE PEOPLE TO PLAY SC2?

How is that then suddenly cast as an umbrella statement for BW fans?


On October 18 2011 07:22 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 07:16 ImbaTosS wrote:
On October 18 2011 06:50 Jaxtyk wrote:
If jaedong ever switches to sc2, my life is complete

Less of this. This is why it's annoying when things are spotlighted, much as I like the news to be accessible. Please keep this opinion to yourself.

On October 18 2011 07:13 McKTenor13 wrote:
I know they'll be there to play Brood War, but the SC2 love in me hopes they get to witness how crazy they fans go for the Starcraft 2 gamers here in America. It'll be a nice glimpse into the future for them.

The future? Just.. no.

hahaha BW players in denial of the future


We're not in denial. There's good evidence to suspect that many BW players will never switch over. They'll go back to school. They'll do something else.

I mean, look at Yellow. He had a go at SC2. Then he went on to do some commercials for Poker.

I don't understand why people think BW pros switching is going to be inevitable. I don't think they'll all switch. I'll go with Sheep, who argues that Jaedong will probably never switch.

But if anything, it'll just feel good for a lot of us who have been saying that when the real pros switch over (I always shake my head when people say: OMG MC so pro), then they'll just show how dominant top BW players are compared with everyone else (and show you guys that what Intrigue wrote back then was 100% true).
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
October 17 2011 22:39 GMT
#433
Epic news xd
It would be funny if they played some SC2 showmatches and beat some SC2 players simply because of their superior practice/gameplay
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 17 2011 22:44 GMT
#434
ZOMG MAYBE ITS SC2 WITH ALL BW UNITS

"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
October 17 2011 22:48 GMT
#435
Ahhhh, if only i knew Jaedong was gonna be there I would have booked a flight to LA QQ
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:20:56
October 17 2011 22:48 GMT
#436
Wasn't jangbi talking some time ago about trying to go for the golden mouse? I wouldn't be too worried about them(at the very least him) switching. In anycase, if they do, it's because they want it, not because evil blizzard is seducing them or anything like that. You guys say a lot that the BW scene is still alive and kicking, and how every a-teamer out there has a salary, how SC2 is not popular in korea, how bad SC2 is and still, the first posts of this thread are of people saying "I better hope they do not play SC2". If they do make a switch(and I don't think they will), it's because they want it. Stop thinking blizzard will invite them there and shove money up they asses and mindcontrol them into switching. Blizzard wants them playing SC2(it's obvious), and they are right for trying to do what's best for them. But ultimately who makes the decisions are the progamers, not blizz.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 17 2011 22:49 GMT
#437
Goddammit. Why am I not in CA anymore .. oh well I'll just see the when the new PL season starts ^^.. also did anyone realize JD will be the only one without a uniform?
KatuStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada161 Posts
October 17 2011 22:50 GMT
#438
I'm pretty sure blizzard is trying to trick them into coming to the US, whereupon their arrival they will be charged with illegal use of intellectual property for profit and then given the choice to either switch to SC2 or be incarcerated.
Video games and whiskey.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:53:53
October 17 2011 22:52 GMT
#439
No Flash makes me kinda sad but I love these 4 so it's all good Hopefully they'll show us some funny games, like offracing or 2v2. I don't care if they try sc2, because it'll all be for fun, I mean, at least HoTS single player campaign is definitely worth playing and I'm sure Jaedong will enjoy it.
o choro é livre
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
October 17 2011 22:52 GMT
#440
Guess it gonna be some visa probs!_!
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