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On May 10 2005 19:05 nArAnjO wrote: i was caught hacking without hacking :D, so yea ppl are relying too much on these "perfect" programs to detect hack t.t
u were caught hacking when u hack... aiighT
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The most simple way to catch a hacker is to just give vision to your opponent during the game from time to time and see if they say anything about it. If they're using maphack, they wouldn't say anything about it because they wouldn't notice it.
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On May 11 2005 10:16 1tym wrote: The most simple way to catch a hacker is to just give vision to your opponent during the game from time to time and see if they say anything about it. If they're using maphack, they wouldn't say anything about it because they wouldn't notice it.
Most of the time It doesnt work.
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On May 11 2005 10:19 superpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2005 10:16 1tym wrote: The most simple way to catch a hacker is to just give vision to your opponent during the game from time to time and see if they say anything about it. If they're using maphack, they wouldn't say anything about it because they wouldn't notice it. Most of the time It doesnt work.
Why is that?
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Because if you give a player vision he will keep his mouth shut and use it to his advantage.
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On May 10 2005 19:05 nArAnjO wrote: i was caught hacking without hacking :D, so yea ppl are relying too much on these "perfect" programs to detect hack t.t
But you were hacking.
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On May 11 2005 10:36 MVP[eV] wrote: Because if you give a player vision he will keep his mouth shut and use it to his advantage.
no..what you do is.. use an odd build order or strategy like proxy gates, fast river drop, 5 drone pool build and give vision briefly then your opp. is likely to use the build order or strategy accordingly (counter strategy).. later when the game is over.. accuse him of maphacking for using the perfect counter build order/strategy.. If your opponent wasn't using maphack.. he would say.. "wtf?? it's because you visioned me" If he was using maphack.. his response won't include the word "vision" anywhere..
well ok but I acknowledge that this method is not always guaranteed. but at least it doesn't require any tools or complicated process.
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I guess in theory it could work, but thats alot of work just to try and prove someone wrong. I'd rather sign off and go do something else away from the computer.
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yeah.. but if it's to prove someone with a 'big' name a hacker it's a different story
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people should say if someone visions them since it's an obvoius test of hack. hackers are always like "i didn't notice you visioned me" and "i know you visioned me" and try to lie about when they saw it. people not saying when they are visioned just helps hackers :-(
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If some newb gave me vision in a game, I sure as hell wouldn't say anything about it. I would keep my mouth shut and continue playing.
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On May 11 2005 10:36 MVP[eV] wrote: Because if you give a player vision he will keep his mouth shut and use it to his advantage. no, it's because the cheat program make the things different if they have vision or if they dont have it. Trust me, the method is flawed and most of the time, the cheater will be able to tell if you visioned him or not.
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On May 11 2005 13:56 superpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2005 10:36 MVP[eV] wrote: Because if you give a player vision he will keep his mouth shut and use it to his advantage. no, it's because the cheat program make the things different if they have vision or if they dont have it. Trust me, the method is flawed and most of the time, the cheater will be able to tell if you visioned him or not. I agree, on map hacks, you can use some kind of semi-fog where you see all your enemie's units + their buildings under the fog. If you vision, the fog will disapear and the hacker will notice .
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I know about the semi fog option.. but normally they wouldn't set it on fog option cuz you can't see things clearly on minimap and it sorta irritates your eye.. If you set it on fog option you are likely to miss dropship coming by or building templer archive in secret places
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On May 11 2005 12:09 Ghin wrote: If some newb gave me vision in a game, I sure as hell wouldn't say anything about it. I would keep my mouth shut and continue playing.
which makes you the newb
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i got banned once before there was any way of proving it it had been luck timing vs HovZ ;-) moving goons at same time his dropship was coming to drop me at the right spot that was rather luck, there wasnt bwchart back then nor anything else to catch a hacker, and i got banned unfairly!
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On May 11 2005 10:16 1tym wrote: The most simple way to catch a hacker is to just give vision to your opponent during the game from time to time and see if they say anything about it. If they're using maphack, they wouldn't say anything about it because they wouldn't notice it.
The stupidest method i've ever seen. Tons of accusations "i gave him vivion and he didn't say anything" ... wtf? do i have to unfocus myself during game and say something just because someone is checking me? rofl I never say anything in such situations. With this way you can't proove anything, and nobody can publicly accuse you of using maphack, so i don't care.
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On May 11 2005 10:46 TheBlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2005 19:05 nArAnjO wrote: i was caught hacking without hacking :D, so yea ppl are relying too much on these "perfect" programs to detect hack t.t But you were hacking.
yah but giving the whole story again it's just too much, but i dind't hack in TLT i'm sure i woulda done nice at the tourney, i always do nice at tourneys =(
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On May 11 2005 16:38 nArAnjO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2005 10:46 TheBlackJack wrote:On May 10 2005 19:05 nArAnjO wrote: i was caught hacking without hacking :D, so yea ppl are relying too much on these "perfect" programs to detect hack t.t But you were hacking. yah but giving the whole story again it's just too much, but i dind't hack in TLT  i'm sure i woulda done nice at the tourney, i always do nice at tourneys =( You hacked in the CL vs SCF. ROFL @ you.
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i did? how?, cuz u can ask fayth we played with BWS on(i asked for it)... then AFTER our games i went to play with my friends
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