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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
May 10 2005 18:03 GMT
#41
On May 10 2005 21:44 Amnesty wrote:
In CS, your forgetting if you head shot the owner of the server or one of his close friends, you are a hacker no matter what. Just my expierence.

LOL, so true. Fuck CS
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 18:06:23
May 10 2005 18:05 GMT
#42
There are simply more ways than BWAC to catch hackers, but they are not fullproof.

Please, if you think you were falsely convicted show that this can happen again :/ Otherwise shut up.
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dev
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada93 Posts
May 10 2005 18:05 GMT
#43
gj napolen i wonder whats he gona say to this now?
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
May 10 2005 18:24 GMT
#44
why are stupid people defending lois without even knowing how he was caught? and that it's 100% proof?
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L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
May 10 2005 18:32 GMT
#45
the only time i've experienced the suspicious action thing being off was in a corrupt replay. every 1 second a suspicious action was noted (by pretty much every player), so u can kinda get the hint when the replays fucked lol
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 10 2005 18:43 GMT
#46
it happened to me once against jelloone

lol
why so 진지해?
RoboSexuaL
Profile Joined May 2005
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 18:45:45
May 10 2005 18:44 GMT
#47
On May 10 2005 19:39 Chill wrote:
Lastgosu, this is a generalization about human reactions, but here goes:

When people are accused of something that they are innocent of, they claim their case rationally. If people generally don't believe them they explain the differences in their views and leave it at that.

When people are accused of something that they are guilty of, they start freaking out. First off, you'll find their arguments just quite frankly don't make any sence whatsoever. They cite facts that really have nothing to do with the situation at all, or they try to attack the credibility of other people instead of defending their own credibility. You can easily see this in criminal / civil defendants or people involved with the police. If you're freaking out it's because you don't have a rational explanation to defend yourself.

Which of the two categories do you believe you fit into?

You clicked on someone's Nexus while it was under the fog of war. I have yet to hear a rational explanation about how you managed to accomplish this. You've typed probably 5 pages of non-sensical gibberish.

WHAT DID YOU DO THAT ALLOWED YOU TO SELECT A NEXUS UNDER THE FOG OF WAR?

What's more likely, computer programming error or human error? I would tend to believe that you made an error and selected a nexus that you shouldn't have, rather than something in the Starcraft code caused the replayed to say you selected a building while you didn't.

Anyways, I don't know why I typed this all out. You're not going to read this properly and are not going to have a sensical reply. I guess this just makes me happy to see you get what you deserve and you're squirming around like the hacker you are.

GL AT USA FINALS~!~!~
you can't pinpoint human emotions like that, Sure this is good general truth most of the time but not all the time. Say im playing poker I see my opponent loading up his chips in his hand usually this means he has a weak hand and hes trying to intimidate me , but maybe he just has a bad habit of grabbing his chips or maybe he only does it when he sees me do a certain thing, maybe he knows that i know loading up chips is a sign of weakness.
One time i was playing a TvT vs these guys that say i suck blah blah they wont ever play me, then one day one of them challenges me TvT some crappy map I own the shit out of him with intuition and macro because there is only 2 expos per player, and i control the map with wraiths because the pathways are very small and narrow and for some reason we couldnt upgrade seige mode (LOL?). All throughout the game they are calling me a hacker, I don't think i have ever been so angry in a game in my entire life. The first thing is did was call him names and say he sucks before ever even trying to rationalize my gameplay. I don't hack, In fact they tried to cheat me, the creator of the game SAVED the game half way through corrupting the rest of the replay beyond that point. so i paused the game turned on camtasia and when i unalt tabbed it was unpaused obs wouldnt shut the fuck up with their comments etc. if anyone wants the rep and the video PM me, its kind of funny.
I got a thirst for knowledge, but I hate waiting in line at the well.
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
May 10 2005 19:33 GMT
#48
Who hack will be sooner or later found. Guaranteed.
mafia shit bullshit
Y821
Profile Joined November 2004
210 Posts
May 10 2005 19:39 GMT
#49
--- Nuked ---
s(~.^)z
jidojazerg
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada107 Posts
May 10 2005 19:56 GMT
#50
yo chill the reason some of what he is saying doesnt make sense is he just moved from korea recently so his english is T_T
Berg_zerg
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany294 Posts
May 10 2005 20:33 GMT
#51
hm
2 people are accused hacking now.

Selector and lois.

Selector has been caught 4-5 times in the past... and still claims that he is no hacker...
Lois was also caught hacking in the past...

if you understand german language,read selectors posts on broodwar.de in the BW-forum.
he was always defending himself to death in every game he was caught hacking...

though it is very obvious that he hacked in every single game he was accused.
MVP[eV]
Profile Joined May 2005
United States270 Posts
May 10 2005 21:07 GMT
#52
On May 10 2005 19:23 lastgosu wrote:
Yes it could be stupid bug in the game. In my case I got accused by map hack 100% now.
about something that can be stupid bug in the game.

at first people tried to accuse me hacking with Random Zerg Testie vs I. But now nobody talking more about it. now someone is keep trying to say look at this game SW)Lois vs MgZ)Nookie. It is impossible to happen he did attacked without vision etc. and accuse me hacker and banned me WGT with very small proof.

1 very small action which can be error and no more proof until now. Im very sure someone is seeking, trying to find some more proove to upload but couldnt yet.

I really dont see senseful action belong with it.

Im very sad i got banned from WGT (*cough*) im very sad about this comunity.


You've been caught shrimp, deal with it.
USWest - op eV)
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 21:51:53
May 10 2005 21:50 GMT
#53
I pretty much agree with Chill's psychological implication... the way lastgosu reacts doesn't give me a certainty that he hacks, but it does make me sceptical about what he is saying rather than wanting to believe him.

NewbSaibot, if the hacker knows this and wnats to use reverse psychology , would he not act against his impulses and give a convincing rational explanation? (much like ilnp did after wdt ) he convinced a lot of people, lastgosu didn't ... doesn't apply to this case

People who admit their hackness are much less pathetic than those who don't..
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 10 2005 23:01 GMT
#54
On May 10 2005 19:21 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
"suspicious actions" are just when you click the other persons units and buildings.

Can't believe you people haven't figured it out =[


hehe

i know suspicious actions happen all the time, but i'm curious about something where you can perhaps click "attack move" into the fog of an opponents base and it somehow reads as a "selected this building" in BWChart / penguin plug
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 10 2005 23:06 GMT
#55
IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR PEOPLE:

Has this ever happened to you guys, where you are zerg/protoss early expanding, and you are getting ready to send your first few drones over to mine, so you click on the minerals in the fog of war. However, instead of that mineral lighting up, a DIFFERENT patch lights up. Or, sometimes when i tell a unit to "move" to a certain location in the fog of war in my enemy's base, and i happen to click NEAR a building, for some reason that building lights up. HOWEVER, when my unit gets to the area and there is no fog, they move exactly where i told them to, and not to the buliding that lit up...

It made me curious as to whether or not a "select" had occured when i couldn't see it.

I'll do some tests w/ my brother tasteless when i get back home from college
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
May 10 2005 23:22 GMT
#56
Penguin says he has tested this and even though buildings or patches light up the command is processed as action on ground.
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
May 10 2005 23:25 GMT
#57
On May 11 2005 08:06 Day[9] wrote:
IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR PEOPLE:

Has this ever happened to you guys, where you are zerg/protoss early expanding, and you are getting ready to send your first few drones over to mine, so you click on the minerals in the fog of war. However, instead of that mineral lighting up, a DIFFERENT patch lights up. Or, sometimes when i tell a unit to "move" to a certain location in the fog of war in my enemy's base, and i happen to click NEAR a building, for some reason that building lights up. HOWEVER, when my unit gets to the area and there is no fog, they move exactly where i told them to, and not to the buliding that lit up...

It made me curious as to whether or not a "select" had occured when i couldn't see it.

I'll do some tests w/ my brother tasteless when i get back home from college


Definately seen this happen.
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Napoleon
Profile Joined March 2003
Poland81 Posts
May 10 2005 23:31 GMT
#58
Gosh. Admins of WGT are catching hackers for 2 years with this method. They tested everything, know everything about those actions and bugs... If you don't understand something just check it by yourself, test it, go ahead
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States975 Posts
May 10 2005 23:32 GMT
#59
Couldn't you just have someone who is REALLY hacking, and see what happens? Like set it up so that everyone knows he hacked on purpose, then check the suspicious moves.
when in doubt DT out
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
May 11 2005 01:06 GMT
#60
If Lastgosu clicked on a Nexus under fog of war, he's a hacker -- plain and simple.
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