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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
Thanks for the explaination about lag and latency. You've lighten me up. But I have a question for you, my first question for you. Is it possible to modify the replay at low level so that you can fake actions? The replay is already been saved. How about a run-time program modifying the action that BW is going to save to the replay. What's your opinion? | ||
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shizuru
Japan570 Posts
in bw chart for second proof under action it's "comsat." i think you have it highlighted in the graphic i linked to on p13. searching through other times that lois scans in same game i couldn't find "comsat" under action but instead saw a bunch of hotkey+moves to scan. so why is it that the other scans arent recorded as "comsats" under action in bwchart? on a side note: bw chart of replay reads: time /player/ action / parameters / unit 15:50/ SwLois/ ComSatScan/ (2271,1093)0,228,/ 0 yours: time / player/ action / parameters / unit 24070/ swlois/ ComSatScan/ (241,208) Nexus, 228/ 3354 compare that information when i open the replay in bwchart with the graphic you provided when you opened the replay with bwchart. why is our information different? | ||
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
The one of the nexus is at 24070 that is at 16:51 in seconds. EDIT: I just checked, there is not a ComSatScan at 15:50 as you said ¬¬ | ||
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IAmNooKS
United States51 Posts
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Terross
United States878 Posts
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shizuru
Japan570 Posts
On May 11 2005 19:10 Telemako]JLS[ wrote: You picked different ComSatScans The one of the nexus is at 24070 that is at 16:51 in seconds. EDIT: I just checked, there is not a ComSatScan at 15:50 as you said ¬¬ oops my bad. copied down the time wrong. but the time wasnt the point neway. | ||
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superpenguin
France199 Posts
On May 11 2005 18:42 Elvin_vn wrote: superpenguin: Thanks for the explaination about lag and latency. You've lighten me up. But I have a question for you, my first question for you. Is it possible to modify the replay at low level so that you can fake actions? The replay is already been saved. How about a run-time program modifying the action that BW is going to save to the replay. What's your opinion? yes but it wouldnt be easy. What's easyer would be to spoof a player name or something like that. However, since lois himself posted 1 of the proof, do you realy think he would have added the proof on purpose by modifying the replay himself ? For "run-time programs", it has to be done on purpose and with care to keep the replay uncorrupted. Some cheats do that to try to prevent to be detected, but theres nothing to "add suspicious actions" in my opinion. In all case, any non-bw related program has no influance on the replay saving. | ||
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Chris307
3095 Posts
On May 11 2005 19:24 Terross wrote: haha, nooks really would deck that nerdy I don't care how good Nooks is, he's a cheating faggot too. | ||
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Tycho
Netherlands351 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On May 11 2005 19:21 IAmNooKS wrote: I really do hope you go to wcg i'll bitch smack your ass back to korea. it's one thing to do it, but dont talk about it online, just makes you look dumber than you already are. | ||
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FlashGordon
83 Posts
On May 12 2005 01:59 Tycho wrote: i bet everyone hacks I bet you're stupid ;O. | ||
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Ash
Malaysia1978 Posts
On May 11 2005 19:21 IAmNooKS wrote: that's rather gay everything would have been different if he was caught and banned earlier, as far as the seedings and who qualified for the final tournament ( fayth ) so fuck you lastgosu I really do hope you go to wcg i'll bitch smack your ass back to korea. lmfao you sound like you hate hackers a lot, but you were one of them. I bet everyone else would bitch smack you when they see you in WCG as well =) | ||
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VorteXXX
United States430 Posts
On May 11 2005 19:24 Terross wrote: haha, nooks really would deck that nerdy ROFL I love how you didn't say jackshit when NigoL was caught hacking and befriend former hackers like NigoL and NookS but I find your posts everywhere when it comes to Lois hacking. :O I mean if you're gonna stay out of all "caught hackers" threads, thats fine with me. And I was even fine with all of yours posts up to this point (despite how retarded most of them were), but "haha, nooks really would deck that nerdy" ? That just seems like the quote of a confused adolescent whose trying to find his identity. I mean "deck that nerdy"? NERDY? DECK? IN THE SAME SENTENCE? /squelch Terross | ||
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
On May 12 2005 03:32 VorteXXX wrote: ROFL I love how you didn't say jackshit when NigoL was caught hacking and befriend former hackers like NigoL and NookS but I find your posts everywhere when it comes to Lois hacking. :O I mean if you're gonna stay out of all "caught hackers" threads, thats fine with me. And I was even fine with all of yours posts up to this point (despite how retarded most of them were), but "haha, nooks really would deck that nerdy" ? That just seems like the quote of a confused adolescent whose trying to find his identity. I mean "deck that nerdy"? NERDY? DECK? IN THE SAME SENTENCE? /squelch Terross If you would have read the posts above his, NookS said he would deck lois, terross was just agreeing with nooks' statement. I hope there's another HovZ/Nextel incident :D | ||
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Terross
United States878 Posts
On May 12 2005 03:32 VorteXXX wrote: ROFL I love how you didn't say jackshit when NigoL was caught hacking and befriend former hackers like NigoL and NookS but I find your posts everywhere when it comes to Lois hacking. :O I mean if you're gonna stay out of all "caught hackers" threads, thats fine with me. And I was even fine with all of yours posts up to this point (despite how retarded most of them were), but "haha, nooks really would deck that nerdy" ? That just seems like the quote of a confused adolescent whose trying to find his identity. I mean "deck that nerdy"? NERDY? DECK? IN THE SAME SENTENCE? /squelch Terross wade shut up, nigol is an idiot as well, and he is my friend because he is hilarious, obviously i would back him up as you are for lois since he is on your team and you are a dick rider like the rest of those east trash kids. Nooks as you can see in another thread i said " many people still think nooks hacks and nigol definitely does." i believe this was the pgt thread. now shut the fcuk up and go back to lubing your ass for lois. | ||
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VorteXXX
United States430 Posts
On May 12 2005 04:39 Terross wrote: wade shut up, nigol is an idiot as well, and he is my friend because he is hilarious, obviously i would back him up as you are for lois since he is on your team and you are a dick rider like the rest of those east trash kids. Nooks as you can see in another thread i said " many people still think nooks hacks and nigol definitely does." i believe this was the pgt thread. now shut the fcuk up and go back to lubing your ass for lois. Where have I backed up Lois? I never said "OMFG YOU LIAR 'NERDIES' NEED TO STOP LYING CUZ LOIS DOESN'T HACK!" did I? I don't back up hackers. NigoL is a fucking retard. But I guess retarded comedy is your forte. I just don't understand how you can bitch at Lois so bad throughout these threads for hacking, and straight out be all "buddy buddy" with another hacker because he's "funny". Explain? :O | ||
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MVP[eV]
United States270 Posts
On May 12 2005 04:39 Terross wrote: wade shut up, nigol is an idiot as well, and he is my friend because he is hilarious, obviously i would back him up as you are for lois since he is on your team and you are a dick rider like the rest of those east trash kids. Nooks as you can see in another thread i said " many people still think nooks hacks and nigol definitely does." i believe this was the pgt thread. now shut the fcuk up and go back to lubing your ass for lois. I don't know you, but already I think you're in fact a dumbass. | ||
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Milzo
France656 Posts
On May 11 2005 03:06 dev wrote: And to the Lois story... go and DL last TLT reppack of him from WGT and you'll find more proofs. It's not a single action. Look here: http://www.freewebs.com/gosumiasto/SW)LoisZ-e9.ShinigamiT_4.rep He moves to minerals that he haven't ever found. http://www.freewebs.com/gosumiasto/screen81.jpg Strange message from BWAC just before the 15 minutes mark: "Suspicious action: player "SW)Lois" lose vision to his own unit: Zerg Hydralisk Den (5683)". How does this happen? | ||
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loloko2
Mexico433 Posts
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loloko2
Mexico433 Posts
Milzo wrote: Strange message from BWAC just before the 15 minutes mark: "Suspicious action: player "SW)Lois" lose vision to his own unit: Zerg Hydralisk Den (5683)". How does this happen? thats the same thing i saw in another game.. so i pm penguin.. his answer was: "For now you should realy ignore this line. In fact it mean that you unselected your own unit, there can be many legit reasons for that to happen : if you select a probe and it go in a gaz, if your enemy statis field an army that you currently have selected... However, there is one case where it can help to find some cheaters. Because of how some maphack works, it will send the "unselect" command when in reality there is no reason for anything that he currently have selected to be unselected. But the code to detect what unit is unselected is not safe, so you better not rely on this kind of proof atm." [/QUOTE] | ||
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