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On September 23 2011 01:07 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 12:51 GTR wrote:On September 22 2011 11:06 Ideas wrote:On September 22 2011 10:13 fabiano wrote:
God forbid Jaedong to KT, or even SKT.
I think SC2 is way too lame of a game for Jaedong, but he might have no other choice if no other team can afford his salary.
And if he indeed switches, then SC2 lameness will be diminished because he will find a way to make it actually fun. if boxer and july can't make SC2 fun, how would JD make it fun? a player of jaedong's calibre would bring an amazing amount of hype to the stagnating pro sc2 scene in korea. either way, people look too deep into netizen rumors/comments. of course jd is just visiting his old lecaf team mates -_- Is the scene really stagnating in Korea, asking because I haven't seen tons of stuff about GSL failing and what not. Its never been huge in terms of spectators or people watching but I haven't got the impression people are already losing interest.
You actually mentioned the reason for its stagnation: it's the fact that it doesn't have the huge spectating in Korea when you contrast it with BW.
Because of that, it doesn't seem like people are losing interest because there wasn't a huge number that had interest in the first place. All of the are diehards staying around, while the few casual fans are fading away, thus it makes it seem like it isn't losing any steam.
There's certainly potential for SC2 in Korea once the expansions start rolling out, add that to the already huge popularity around the rest of the world and you'll have a game that may stay around for a while.
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On September 23 2011 00:56 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 00:48 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:On September 22 2011 12:51 GTR wrote:On September 22 2011 11:06 Ideas wrote:On September 22 2011 10:13 fabiano wrote:
God forbid Jaedong to KT, or even SKT.
I think SC2 is way too lame of a game for Jaedong, but he might have no other choice if no other team can afford his salary.
And if he indeed switches, then SC2 lameness will be diminished because he will find a way to make it actually fun. if boxer and july can't make SC2 fun, how would JD make it fun? a player of jaedong's calibre would bring an amazing amount of hype to the stagnating pro sc2 scene in korea. Ghaa Jaedong needs to win 2 more OSLs before he switches.. PLEASE GOD PLEASE! I'd be happy with 1 OSL and this final MSL. He needs to get that golden badge.
Yeah, he really needs this final MSL. The 4th OSL would also work as well. ^^
On the issue of teams, it seems like STX would be the best for keeping a balanced league. The fact that the management or coach (I forget which) originally put up basically ALL the players for trade or something makes me think something's odd there.
I would rather JD go to Khan or KT, if he has to go to one of the remaining teams. He would completely solve Khan's current Zerg problem, and Oz and Khan seemed pretty close. Jaedong would be a great fit at KT as well, since him and Flash are good friends, and KT treats their players pretty well.
Please not SKT, though. SKT has been the destroyer of zergs (or at least ones they bought).
On September 23 2011 02:27 Kanil wrote:
I can assure you I would never describe BIsu as "mine".
Kanil, your signature(?) makes me laugh.
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On September 23 2011 01:10 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL  because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors ......... What?! Hana Daetoo MSL Flash 3-0 Jaedong Bigfile MSL Flash 3-2 Jaedong Korean Air OSL Flash 3-1 Jaedong. How is it JD>Flash?! :[
You need to look at more recent stuff, Jaedong's ZvT is looking fantastic as of late though his other matchups are suffering of this.
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I would rather JD go to Khan or KT, if he has to go to one of the remaining teams. He would completely solve Khan's current Zerg problem, and Oz and Khan seemed pretty close. Jaedong would be a great fit at KT as well, since him and Flash are good friends, and KT treats their players pretty well.
Please not SKT, though. SKT has been the destroyer of zergs (or at least ones they bought).
I mainly agree with you, I would be okey with Jaedong going to either STX or Khan, preferably Khan. Just not SKT!!
*prayer for new sponsors*
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On September 23 2011 02:27 Kanil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 00:47 Telcontar wrote:On September 22 2011 23:52 Kanil wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors I always play Bisu in Bisu paper scissors. Bisu beats paper and scissors. If you disagree, I'll punch you in the face with my Bisu. Funny how that Bisu of yours never really hit anyone in the OSLs. I can assure you I would never describe BIsu as "mine".
I was just going along with your 'my fist is Bisu' metaphor.
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On September 23 2011 02:28 Pvvned wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 01:07 L_Master wrote:On September 22 2011 12:51 GTR wrote:On September 22 2011 11:06 Ideas wrote:On September 22 2011 10:13 fabiano wrote:
God forbid Jaedong to KT, or even SKT.
I think SC2 is way too lame of a game for Jaedong, but he might have no other choice if no other team can afford his salary.
And if he indeed switches, then SC2 lameness will be diminished because he will find a way to make it actually fun. if boxer and july can't make SC2 fun, how would JD make it fun? a player of jaedong's calibre would bring an amazing amount of hype to the stagnating pro sc2 scene in korea. either way, people look too deep into netizen rumors/comments. of course jd is just visiting his old lecaf team mates -_- Is the scene really stagnating in Korea, asking because I haven't seen tons of stuff about GSL failing and what not. Its never been huge in terms of spectators or people watching but I haven't got the impression people are already losing interest. You actually mentioned the reason for its stagnation: it's the fact that it doesn't have the huge spectating in Korea when you contrast it with BW. Because of that, it doesn't seem like people are losing interest because there wasn't a huge number that had interest in the first place. All of the are diehards staying around, while the few casual fans are fading away, thus it makes it seem like it isn't losing any steam. There's certainly potential for SC2 in Korea once the expansions start rolling out, add that to the already huge popularity around the rest of the world and you'll have a game that may stay around for a while.
120 $ worth expansions might even kill SC2 in korea...
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On September 23 2011 04:48 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 02:27 Kanil wrote:On September 23 2011 00:47 Telcontar wrote:On September 22 2011 23:52 Kanil wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors I always play Bisu in Bisu paper scissors. Bisu beats paper and scissors. If you disagree, I'll punch you in the face with my Bisu. Funny how that Bisu of yours never really hit anyone in the OSLs. I can assure you I would never describe BIsu as "mine". I was just going along with your 'my fist is Bisu' metaphor.
Pffshht Bisu ain't no fist.
Bisu is like a soft rainbow studded pillow made out of unicornfur, stuffed with the softest peacockfeathers known in the fairykingdom.
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On September 23 2011 02:28 Pvvned wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 01:07 L_Master wrote:On September 22 2011 12:51 GTR wrote:On September 22 2011 11:06 Ideas wrote:On September 22 2011 10:13 fabiano wrote:
God forbid Jaedong to KT, or even SKT.
I think SC2 is way too lame of a game for Jaedong, but he might have no other choice if no other team can afford his salary.
And if he indeed switches, then SC2 lameness will be diminished because he will find a way to make it actually fun. if boxer and july can't make SC2 fun, how would JD make it fun? a player of jaedong's calibre would bring an amazing amount of hype to the stagnating pro sc2 scene in korea. either way, people look too deep into netizen rumors/comments. of course jd is just visiting his old lecaf team mates -_- Is the scene really stagnating in Korea, asking because I haven't seen tons of stuff about GSL failing and what not. Its never been huge in terms of spectators or people watching but I haven't got the impression people are already losing interest. You actually mentioned the reason for its stagnation: it's the fact that it doesn't have the huge spectating in Korea when you contrast it with BW. Because of that, it doesn't seem like people are losing interest because there wasn't a huge number that had interest in the first place. All of the are diehards staying around, while the few casual fans are fading away, thus it makes it seem like it isn't losing any steam. There's certainly potential for SC2 in Korea once the expansions start rolling out, add that to the already huge popularity around the rest of the world and you'll have a game that may stay around for a while.
Do you have any citations for your "facts"?
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id would be nice if sc2 got its first actual progamer lol
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On September 23 2011 07:08 harhar! wrote:
id would be nice if sc2 got its first actual progamer lol
Please don't bring that kind of talk into the BW section
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update on jaedong: he is still cute and he will dominate next season
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On September 23 2011 03:44 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 01:10 Seeker wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors ......... What?! Hana Daetoo MSL Flash 3-0 Jaedong Bigfile MSL Flash 3-2 Jaedong Korean Air OSL Flash 3-1 Jaedong. How is it JD>Flash?! :[ You need to look at more recent stuff, Jaedong's ZvT is looking fantastic as of late though his other matchups are suffering of this.
you've got it all wrong. Recently, almost everyone has been playing poor TvZ; Jaedong's ZvT looks fantastic by comparison.
Once Flash recovers, no doubt he will destroy JD, but JD is still likely to beat everyone else (except Bisu)
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On September 23 2011 08:57 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 03:44 Eywa- wrote:On September 23 2011 01:10 Seeker wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors ......... What?! Hana Daetoo MSL Flash 3-0 Jaedong Bigfile MSL Flash 3-2 Jaedong Korean Air OSL Flash 3-1 Jaedong. How is it JD>Flash?! :[ You need to look at more recent stuff, Jaedong's ZvT is looking fantastic as of late though his other matchups are suffering of this. you've got it all wrong. Recently, almost everyone has been playing poor TvZ; Jaedong's ZvT looks fantastic by comparison. Once Flash recovers, no doubt he will destroy JD, but JD is still likely to beat everyone else (except Bisu)
Hopefully jaedong vs flash happens again so you can eat your words 
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On September 23 2011 03:44 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 01:10 Seeker wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors ......... What?! Hana Daetoo MSL Flash 3-0 Jaedong Bigfile MSL Flash 3-2 Jaedong Korean Air OSL Flash 3-1 Jaedong. How is it JD>Flash?! :[ You need to look at more recent stuff, Jaedong's ZvT is looking fantastic as of late though his other matchups are suffering of this.
Very true. Did u know that recently Flash successfully did his wrist surgery and is now ready to rape once again? :D
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On September 23 2011 08:59 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 08:57 Release wrote:On September 23 2011 03:44 Eywa- wrote:On September 23 2011 01:10 Seeker wrote:On September 22 2011 20:45 altered wrote:On September 22 2011 19:08 zaii wrote:On September 22 2011 17:56 Eywa- wrote:On September 22 2011 14:10 Eun_Star wrote:JD would be better off to STX/Khan than KT/SKT1. There's absolutely no logical explanation of why KT/SKT1 needs JD to keep the proleague competitive as much as possible. iirc in 2009 JD had a problem with OZ, and actually wasn't picked up by any other teams because of his salary (kespa rules for free agency with high salary--check out JD's profile on liquipedia " http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Jaedong"). Is the case different in this situation? I certainly hope so. If SKT had JD, they would have won PL because JD > Flash now, though I'm guessing his commitment to his ZvT in order to get good enough to beat Flash just about every time is the reason his ZvZ is significantly weaker. If SKT got Jaedong they could fire BeSt for failing to kill Flash. JD>Flash>Bisu>JD correct? sounds like the TL way to play rock paper scissors ......... What?! Hana Daetoo MSL Flash 3-0 Jaedong Bigfile MSL Flash 3-2 Jaedong Korean Air OSL Flash 3-1 Jaedong. How is it JD>Flash?! :[ You need to look at more recent stuff, Jaedong's ZvT is looking fantastic as of late though his other matchups are suffering of this. you've got it all wrong. Recently, almost everyone has been playing poor TvZ; Jaedong's ZvT looks fantastic by comparison. Once Flash recovers, no doubt he will destroy JD, but JD is still likely to beat everyone else (except Bisu) Hopefully jaedong vs flash happens again so you can eat your words
Fuck yes. They need to meet again in a Starleague final so that JD can show what's what. Unfortunately, he'll probably roll ZvZs at earlier rounds and get knocked out.
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He's taking his talents to Team Liquid for Starcraft 2
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On September 23 2011 10:17 Mutt_Boi wrote:
He's taking his talents to Team Liquid for Starcraft 2
Ok your point for saying that was?
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On September 23 2011 10:19 Musiq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 10:17 Mutt_Boi wrote:
He's taking his talents to Team Liquid for Starcraft 2 Ok your point for saying that was?
Spoofing Lebron James
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What if the 3 disbanding teams merged into one by a new company?
Jaedong, Sea and Baby on the same team. Could work.
But only big teams have good protoss. I never understood that.
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On September 23 2011 11:48 gustavohmp wrote:
What if the 3 disbanding teams merged into one by a new company?
Jaedong, Sea and Baby on the same team. Could work.
But only big teams have good protoss. I never understood that.
Mbc protoss has been doing really well , especially Enigma Jaehoon...
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