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MoogleSATx
Profile Joined December 2004
United States439 Posts
May 01 2005 07:01 GMT
#41
Fast Expo... Got Rushed...
I can beat you one handed
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
May 01 2005 07:07 GMT
#42
On May 01 2005 15:30 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2005 14:11 FireBlast! wrote:
I also think that partially, oov wanted to get out of Boxer's shadow. KTF desparately needs a reliable 1v1 Terran other than washed up oldskool gamers Sync and TheMarine -_-;;..


You and everyone else thinking this is a fucking moron. Boxer and Oov are like brothers he wouldn't want to get ' out of his shadow '. Sorry but there's more respect between Boxer and Oov than you and some friend or something similar of that nature.

With that said, I think Oov is innocent and his father is to blame.


What people say to the media and what is really true can sometimes be complete opposites. Since you're not living in the SKT1 headquarters and you don't know oov or boxer personally, it's impossible to really know what's going on.
t.t
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 07:14:27
May 01 2005 07:13 GMT
#43
On May 01 2005 16:07 draeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2005 15:30 Ack1027 wrote:
On May 01 2005 14:11 FireBlast! wrote:
I also think that partially, oov wanted to get out of Boxer's shadow. KTF desparately needs a reliable 1v1 Terran other than washed up oldskool gamers Sync and TheMarine -_-;;..


You and everyone else thinking this is a fucking moron. Boxer and Oov are like brothers he wouldn't want to get ' out of his shadow '. Sorry but there's more respect between Boxer and Oov than you and some friend or something similar of that nature.

With that said, I think Oov is innocent and his father is to blame.


What people say to the media and what is really true can sometimes be complete opposites. Since you're not living in the SKT1 headquarters and you don't know oov or boxer personally, it's impossible to really know what's going on.


Wow gee fucking gee.

In every interview, in every VOD, in every encounter of Boxer and Oov there has been nothing but respect for each other. Oov even cried during EVER finals because he didn't want to see Boxer lose but he had such a desire to win at the same time. And if you don't think Boxer respects him then why do you think he took Oov under his wing and basically GAVE him the opportunity to be what he is today.

Again, you and everyone thinking that this is a respect issue is a fucking moron. In Korea respect is on a much larger scale than in the Western world. If Oov really wanted to leave KTF because he felt like he was being ' held down ' by Boxer [ which makes absolutely no sense seeing as how he is arguably the best player in the world ] then he would do it outright and not even make the contract with SKT1 in the first place.

Let me reiterate, as you don't seem to understand. Oov would lose all fans and respect from the progaming institution itself. Oov would lose seemingly his only close friends in progaming [ Boxer and SKT1 ] and who would want him on their team if he's a teamhopping noob who has no loyalty.

ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 01 2005 07:34 GMT
#44
I love Koreans for the way they have such respect for their friends and elders. Most of the nicest people I have ever met are Koreans.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 07:46:04
May 01 2005 07:44 GMT
#45
im reminded of this korean movie i saw, "friend." in one restaurant scene, this mob boss is disrespected by his childhood friend in front of his subordinates. the subordinates shoot a threatening look at the childhood friend. the mob boss catches it and gets mad at the subordinates. he teaches them, "friends can say anything they want to each other. otherwise they can't be called friends." the mob boss made them run the rest of the way as he dropped off his friend home.

in life, friends are the hardest to find. maybe oov and boxer share something similar.
BinaryStar
Profile Joined November 2004
Afghanistan669 Posts
May 01 2005 08:57 GMT
#46
Holy crap, some of you guys get pretty aggressive.

Notice how I said *maybe*? It was just a theory, there's no need for anyone to be calling anyone a "fucking moron."

I'm sorry if I don't watch enough SC-related VODs (except the games themselves) and don't know the personal relationships between characters that much. I made a theory that *would* seem plausible to anyone who wasn't that much aware of the relationship between boxer and oov (and for someone who just watches replays and VODs, it shouldn't be expected knowledge).

Yeah, to the first guy--thanks for correcting me. To the other guy--fuck you, asshole.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 09:03:59
May 01 2005 09:03 GMT
#47
On May 01 2005 17:57 BinaryStar wrote:
Holy crap, some of you guys get pretty aggressive.

Notice how I said *maybe*? It was just a theory, there's no need for anyone to be calling anyone a "fucking moron."

I'm sorry if I don't watch enough SC-related VODs (except the games themselves) and don't know the personal relationships between characters that much. I made a theory that *would* seem plausible to anyone who wasn't that much aware of the relationship between boxer and oov (and for someone who just watches replays and VODs, it shouldn't be expected knowledge).

Yeah, to the first guy--thanks for correcting me. To the other guy--fuck you, asshole.


There are few to none SC-related VODs that aren't the games themselves. Also, you can't call yourself interested in progaming if you don't know the relationship between Boxer and Oov. Everyone pretty much knows that they are student-teacher and that he introduced him to the scene.

BinaryStar
Profile Joined November 2004
Afghanistan669 Posts
May 01 2005 09:11 GMT
#48
On May 01 2005 18:03 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2005 17:57 BinaryStar wrote:
Holy crap, some of you guys get pretty aggressive.

Notice how I said *maybe*? It was just a theory, there's no need for anyone to be calling anyone a "fucking moron."

I'm sorry if I don't watch enough SC-related VODs (except the games themselves) and don't know the personal relationships between characters that much. I made a theory that *would* seem plausible to anyone who wasn't that much aware of the relationship between boxer and oov (and for someone who just watches replays and VODs, it shouldn't be expected knowledge).

Yeah, to the first guy--thanks for correcting me. To the other guy--fuck you, asshole.

There are few to none SC-related VODs that aren't the games themselves. Also, you can't call yourself interested in progaming if you don't know the relationship between Boxer and Oov. Everyone pretty much knows that they are student-teacher and that he introduced him to the scene.


I'm interested in the results of games, tournaments and leagues. I don't really care about players' relationships that much. Didn't realize there were pre-requisites for being interested in progaming.

I had a *vague* idea about the Boxer-Oov relationship but didn't know it was that serious. Mostly it was from some comments the commentators said during the games... and from them it's hard to discern that Boxer and Oov were that close. I figured Boxer was just doing what he does as the Terran captain--i.e., teaching the rookies... didn't know it was anything special.
cLichE
Profile Joined October 2004
259 Posts
May 01 2005 09:43 GMT
#49
If I remember correctly, oov is the terran captain, and Boxer is the captain of the whole SKT1 team.
shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
May 01 2005 09:49 GMT
#50
even if they are student-teacher, and great friends, binary's guess that oov wants to spread his wings is still very plausible. look at kobe and shaq. not saying they were teacher student, but kobe wanted shaq out so he can run the team despite winning three titles and another appearance.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 01 2005 10:09 GMT
#51
On May 01 2005 18:49 shizuru wrote:
even if they are student-teacher, and great friends, binary's guess that oov wants to spread his wings is still very plausible. look at kobe and shaq. not saying they were teacher student, but kobe wanted shaq out so he can run the team despite winning three titles and another appearance.


Refer to:

In Korea respect is on a much larger scale than in the Western world. If Oov really wanted to leave KTF because he felt like he was being ' held down ' by Boxer [ which makes absolutely no sense seeing as how he is arguably the best player in the world ] then he would do it outright and not even make the contract with SKT1 in the first place.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
May 01 2005 10:09 GMT
#52
It's all about money these days ;P
All Those beneath an angry star
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
May 01 2005 10:12 GMT
#53
A player can't be in the shadow of someone else when it isn't a team sport, especially when they are winning.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 01 2005 10:14 GMT
#54
[QUOTE]On May 01 2005 18:11 BinaryStar wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 01 2005 18:03 Ack1027 wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 01 2005 17:57 BinaryStar wrote:
Holy crap, some of you guys get pretty aggressive.

Notice how I said *maybe*? It was just a theory, there's no need for anyone to be calling anyone a "fucking moron."

I'm sorry if I don't watch enough SC-related VODs (except the games themselves) and don't know the personal relationships between characters that much. I made a theory that *would* seem plausible to anyone who wasn't that much aware of the relationship between boxer and oov (and for someone who just watches replays and VODs, it shouldn't be expected knowledge).

Yeah, to the first guy--thanks for correcting me. To the other guy--fuck you, asshole.[/QUOTE]
There are few to none SC-related VODs that aren't the games themselves. Also, you can't call yourself interested in progaming if you don't know the relationship between Boxer and Oov. Everyone pretty much knows that they are student-teacher and that he introduced him to the scene.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I'm interested in the results of games, tournaments and leagues. I don't really care about players' relationships that much. Didn't realize there were pre-requisites for being interested in progaming.[/QUOTE]

So you've never read an Oov or Boxer interview that's been posted on this site in the last 6 months. Because pretty much the majority of them infer that they are good friends. Also if you don't care bout players relationships [ I.E. know close to nothing about it ] why do you speculate something and then get mad when someone who knows more about Boxer-Oov than you says it's extremely likely that it's wrong.

[QUOTE] I had a *vague* idea about the Boxer-Oov relationship but didn't know it was that serious. Mostly it was from some comments the commentators said during the games... and from them it's hard to discern that Boxer and Oov were that close. I figured Boxer was just doing what he does as the Terran captain--i.e., teaching the rookies... didn't know it was anything special.[/QUOTE]

I had the impression that you spoke/read Korean. But I don't know for sure since you're apparently from Afghanistan now. If you aren't then ignore this, but if you can understand Korean that you must have extreme selective hearing.

By the way, Boxer/Kingdom/GoRush/Oov are all captains of the team.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 01 2005 10:26 GMT
#55
He didn't know their relationship was that close knit. Period. What the hell is the big deal?
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 10:47:41
May 01 2005 10:47 GMT
#56
He's claiming his guess was plausible. I'm just showing him how it's not.

And like I said I had the impression he could speak/read Korean so I'm curious as to how he would have close to no inclination of their relationship.
BinaryStar
Profile Joined November 2004
Afghanistan669 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 18:27:25
May 01 2005 18:27 GMT
#57
I had the impression that you could read English...

I didn't get mad when someone corrected me. I got mad when someone called me a "fucking moron" for not knowing the relationship between two StarCraft players

Without knowing that my relationship was close-knit, it WAS a plausible guess... but then again, where the world did I claim this to begin with (it was shizuru)? Don't put words in my mouth. What you're trying to show is that I should've known enough about their relationship to not make that guess, it seems...to a guy who just cares about the results of games.

So what if I can read/speak Korean? Why would that mean I have "extremely selective hearing?" The commentators don't talk about it that much... and the only time they talked about it at all from the VODs I've seen are from the finals in the 1st EVER OSL. All they mentioned (or at least all I remember) was that Boxer trained Oov when he was new to the team.

I don't really read any of the articles or interviews posted here... I simply don't care that much. In any case, "infer that they are good friends" isn't really enough to assume that they wouldn't want to leave a team to become acknowledged as the best terran of another team. Just because you are "good friends" it doesn't mean that you can't be ambitious enough to want to surpass him and become the top terran.

You're curious eh? Despite the fact that I've already told you how...
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
May 01 2005 18:34 GMT
#58
oov isn't the cleverest of progamers y'know..
I'm sure there were outside forces involved but I do think to an extent oov wants out of the SKT1 hierachy. Sure Boxer did everything for him- he 'excavated' Oov as people say. But as everyone knows SKT1 was built on Boxer's fame and popularity and Oov's talent. He would feel that little bit of contempt, he's the only SKT1 member who won Starleagues last year and yet Boxer's the one who gets the payrise, extended contract and gets voted into Allstar league?.
This 'respect' issue I understand, I'm Korean after all, but it becomes something trivial when one looks at the bigger picture i.e one's future career.
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-01 18:42:03
May 01 2005 18:41 GMT
#59
On May 02 2005 03:27 BinaryStar wrote:
I had the impression that you could read English...


Oh ho~ - _-v

I didn't get mad when someone corrected me. I got mad when someone called me a "fucking moron" for not knowing the relationship between two StarCraft players

It's the internet. Don't care so much about me calling me or anyone else a ' fucking moron '

Without knowing that my relationship was close-knit, it WAS a plausible guess... but then again, where the world did I claim this to begin with (it was shizuru)? Don't put words in my mouth. What you're trying to show is that I should've known enough about their relationship to not make that guess, it seems...to a guy who just cares about the results of games.

On May 01 2005 17:57 BinaryStar wrote:
Holy crap, some of you guys get pretty aggressive.

Notice how I said *maybe*? It was just a theory, there's no need for anyone to be calling anyone a "fucking moron."

I'm sorry if I don't watch enough SC-related VODs (except the games themselves) and don't know the personal relationships between characters that much. I made a theory that *would* seem plausible to anyone who wasn't that much aware of the relationship between boxer and oov (and for someone who just watches replays and VODs, it shouldn't be expected knowledge).

Yeah, to the first guy--thanks for correcting me. To the other guy--fuck you, asshole.



hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
May 01 2005 18:42 GMT
#60
the feb before the april? if so, then it obviously got cancelled, otherwise they wouldn't let him keep playing for skt1

he signed a guaranteed 450k to cover his bases.. skt1 should have just given him the same deal, because they had to know that he was worth it
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
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