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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 06 2005 01:50 GMT
#41
Nice~
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
March 06 2005 01:56 GMT
#42
crashes if any non .rep file is in the folder, and it's gay as hell that it doesn't automatically let you browse from the folder you already had selected..so instead you have to go to c:\ search through yada yada forever over and over if you want a different folder
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SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
March 06 2005 02:05 GMT
#43
real apm HA, now wer gunn have a bunch of 50apm newbies thinkling their good at the game. Great.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 06 2005 02:07 GMT
#44
On March 06 2005 11:05 tlstmddn wrote:
real apm HA, now wer gunn have a bunch of 50apm newbies thinkling their good at the game. Great.

explain the logic behind that... no pro ive seen has an eapm of less than 140 so far anyway.
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
March 06 2005 02:18 GMT
#45
Its probably slightly more accurate then the standard apm thing, but I still think i stick to the old system...
better to have 1 scale
Enter a Uh
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 06 2005 02:33 GMT
#46
On March 06 2005 11:18 jtan wrote:
Its probably slightly more accurate then the standard apm thing, but I still think i stick to the old system...
better to have 1 scale


It's a lot more accurate imo.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
March 06 2005 02:40 GMT
#47
On March 06 2005 11:18 jtan wrote:
Its probably slightly more accurate then the standard apm thing, but I still think i stick to the old system...
better to have 1 scale


I think it would be great, to have that feature in bwchart, just EAPM value near APM, instead of VAPM.
BroodWar forever
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
March 06 2005 02:49 GMT
#48
I don't see how you can be sure than something is spam or not. Someone may double select something to see what is around them. Is this counted as spam? There are several other things which may count as spam which shouldn't.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-06 03:26:04
March 06 2005 02:58 GMT
#49
wow nice
i emailed jca about these spam filters years ago, and then recently i think too
nice to see that it's actually useful ;D

now that i think about it, select 1, select 1 would be considered as spam, no?
i mean what if people use it to center the screen on their units/buildings
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Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
March 06 2005 03:46 GMT
#50
I think there is no perfect way for program to determine the usefullness of sction. But we could try, if we find out that program counts some effective actions as not effective or not effective actions as effective, author could apply theese changes to future versions of program.
BroodWar forever
Selector
Profile Joined August 2004
Germany243 Posts
March 06 2005 04:02 GMT
#51
xellos dropped back to 130 in one rep

the highest EAPM i have seen so far (i havent seen many^^) is kingdom with 230 EAPM !!! thats really much OO
Europe Bnet: ToT)Selector( - Bei IKEA heißt es immer noch such die linke Socke! Vielleicht ist sie hier, im Smoland!
Ready2[ESC]
Profile Joined October 2002
Hungary1436 Posts
March 06 2005 04:57 GMT
#52
On March 06 2005 13:02 Selector wrote:
xellos dropped back to 130 in one rep

the highest EAPM i have seen so far (i havent seen many^^) is kingdom with 230 EAPM !!! thats really much OO


nada vs china_bndso on the WEG event
nada : 244 eapm
--- Nuked ---
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
March 06 2005 05:12 GMT
#53
Look, it takes less than a second to check health. How long does it take you to see a different color in the wireframe? Also, do you ever check to see if your units are done, and when they aren't you don't buy anything? I bet that counts as spam, too.

I am just saying that for very fast players such as pros, what spam is for us isn't spam for them.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
March 06 2005 05:16 GMT
#54
I don't think it's possible to perfectly filter out all the spam. This program may not be perfect, but it seems pretty accurate for first version.

Also, like one guy mentioned, it would be cool if everyone used one or the other so that there's only one scale.
TeRRan`UseR
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada692 Posts
March 06 2005 05:17 GMT
#55
First to say "meh"?
AKAs FreeloSS @USwest Freel0ss @Europe
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
March 06 2005 05:26 GMT
#56
For me pro are not so fast in OGN or MBC games than in replays. They are very slow, because they think more than click on keyboard or mouse. They are fast if there is micro apparence, but nothing more. They play calm to win not to make many APM. Why there is no replays ?? Beacuse of cash and this that they ane not gods, there is psychological aspect of it. If someone doesn't see difference between real game and game for money, i feel sorry for that people.
wishterran
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1045 Posts
March 06 2005 06:46 GMT
#57
maybe this will finally discourage idiots from trying to spam hotkeys to look good =)

thanks, looks nice, going to download.
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-06 07:20:22
March 06 2005 07:04 GMT
#58
On March 06 2005 14:26 Inspire wrote:
For me pro are not so fast in OGN or MBC games than in replays. They are very slow, because they think more than click on keyboard or mouse. They are fast if there is micro apparence, but nothing more. They play calm to win not to make many APM. Why there is no replays ?? Beacuse of cash and this that they ane not gods, there is psychological aspect of it. If someone doesn't see difference between real game and game for money, i feel sorry for that people.

ROFLMAO
You never watched IntoTheMSL (fp vods from URGK MSL)???
You are too fast (with apm >>500 so you consider pros as a too slow ) or too dumb with lack of informations.
EDIT:Or fp vods recorded by Toptalented(<3) from NHN Hangame,Neowiz Pmang ProLeague,Challange or Dual Tournament?
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-06 08:48:53
March 06 2005 08:41 GMT
#59
edit - my first post was pointless.

Speed is a neccessary component of the game. APM does not equate speed, but does give an indication of speed.

Some people increase their APM by uselessly clicking. Other people increase their speed by increasing their APM.

And both people will know exactly what they are doing.

If someone thinks they are a better or more respectable player because of their APM, good for them.

If someone wants to get better by improving all aspects of their game including speed, and essentially APM, then good for them.

Neither player needs a program to arbitrarily tell them whether or not their clicking is useless. They know that all ready.

Neat feature if not completely useless.
Happiness only real when shared.
20thNation
Profile Joined February 2005
United States44 Posts
March 06 2005 09:03 GMT
#60
Its hard cuz ive grown so attached to my bwchart ><
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