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You could say that STX is taking a  Kalculated risk here.
I'm surprised that they have offers so quickly, I can't imagine any trades that they'd be able to do, but then again, I'm not the STX coach.
But yeah it seems to me like it's like soccer, like how some players in their clubs are not for sale and stuff, cept STX did the opposite and put up their players as "Available".
Pretty much what swanized said, since it's trades based on player value, it's probably a decent thing for STX as a team to get some new blood in there, unless of course they decide to do something dumb.
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Wait, offers have already been made? Can someone tell me what they are?
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On July 21 2011 03:19 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Wait, offers have already been made? Can someone tell me what they are?
Curious as well, are they buried in the thread somewhere??
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theyll prob trade a handful of their med-level players away. kinda like the nba in clearing cap space
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On July 21 2011 03:22 Simple wrote:
theyll prob trade a handful of their med-level players away. kinda like the nba in clearing cap space
this is what I'm thinking as well.
Mostly B-teamers going to be traded out, I'd imagine.
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On July 21 2011 03:02 Xiphos wrote:
Okay....KHAN need to get by.Hero
Oz needs Kal
MBC need Calm
That's all I can think of.
KHAN really doesn't need by.hero. He's like a worse version of great.
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On July 21 2011 03:25 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:02 Xiphos wrote:
Okay....KHAN need to get by.Hero
Oz needs Kal
MBC need Calm
That's all I can think of. KHAN really doesn't need by.hero. He's like a worse version of great.
LOL, I am NOT talking about the team's performance. I am talking about Stork and JangBi's unability to defend against cheesy zergs and if hero is on KHAN, they probably can learn to defend.
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On July 21 2011 03:25 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:02 Xiphos wrote:
Okay....KHAN need to get by.Hero
Oz needs Kal
MBC need Calm
That's all I can think of. KHAN really doesn't need by.hero. He's like a worse version of great.
Yeah, I think great will recover [:
On July 21 2011 03:28 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:25 VGhost wrote:On July 21 2011 03:02 Xiphos wrote:
Okay....KHAN need to get by.Hero
Oz needs Kal
MBC need Calm
That's all I can think of. KHAN really doesn't need by.hero. He's like a worse version of great. LOL, I am NOT talking about the team's performance. I am talking about Stork and JangBi's unability to defend against cheesy zergs and if hero is on KHAN, they probably can learn to defend.
Hmm, fair enough. I still don't think it would be worth it, though. Who would be traded? Hero isn't even that good [at cheesing and whatnot] in the first place :x
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Before anybody else in this thread waits for mustaju...
On July 20 2011 15:49 mustaju wrote:
Way to be dicks, guys.
Must feel pretty demoralizing to be the first entire team in BW history to be told that they're all dispensable and unwanted.
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On July 20 2011 11:01 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
TOSSGIRL FOR SALE??????
Dibs.
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On July 21 2011 03:33 Weedk wrote:Before anybody else in this thread waits for mustaju... Must feel pretty demoralizing to be the first entire team in BW history to be told that they're all dispensable and unwanted.
Where did you hear that??
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On July 20 2011 15:36 Crisium wrote:
I think the idea is to trade their veterans for young guys. That means Kal and Calm. While they are underperforming, they are very accomplished. A team looking for a real playoff push in 2012 would consider investing a promising rookie for the established veteran. I think STX will eye Khan for this reason. Khan was in the lower end of the playoffs, and having an inform Kal or Calm would greatly help them next year. They have a lot of rookies and 2-3 year players they could unload.
Don't underestimate Kal's trade value. Physically, he is the youngest of the dragons. While free and Stork have the age problem, Kal is actually younger than Bisu and there is still plenty of time for him to recover to top form.
STX will not trade Bogus, that would be suicide. His potential is too strong. STX wants the young guys, I'm sure of it.
This is pretty much in line with what I'm thinking, except I think KHAN will gun more for Calm than Kal. I don't think STX is going to look to move Kal for someone like JangBi, and having Stork/JangBi/Kal would be a huge salary sink for 3 protoss players, especially if they run into a situation where Protoss aren't being favored by the current map set or the metagame shifts towards Z/T dominance over P. Adding Calm will give them a head to their Zerg line, which was pretty much a revolving door of whatever towards the end of the season.
On July 20 2011 16:29 HighTemper wrote:
What a joke! Never seen anything similar in any sports before...
If there is no cash transactions allowed, how can you value progamers 1 for 1?
No one will trade you good players for bad players, so you'll end up worst I'd say.
I bet this is just some crazy news to kick their players in the butt.
Really? I think a month ago Danny Ainge said that they'd consider trade offers for anyone on the Celtics, including the Big 3 + Rondo.
And they can pretty much negotiate 1 piece for 2 or something similar. 1-to-1 might not work, but - just a random example - STX could send Calm to KHAN for ByuL + Turn. KHAN gets a seasoned veteran Zerg for their extremely underperforming lineup, giving motivation to all of their Zergs, while STX gets a pair of younger players who have shown some signs of value late in the PL season with which they can build a team to last them a few seasons.
STX can't go 1-for-1 here and walk away a winner. They're going to have to try and sell the past reputations of Kal and Calm and hope that they can work some trades, but they're also going to have to make their own gambles on the players.
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STX might hold on to Bogus, but Kal would be a great addition to WeMade. Maybe in exchange for Free and Mind.
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On July 21 2011 03:47 Caos2 wrote:
STX might hold on to Bogus, but Kal would be a great addition to WeMade. Maybe in exchange for Free and Mind.
Free with WMF? Am I missing something? Did you meant Pure?
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On July 21 2011 03:43 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:33 Weedk wrote:Before anybody else in this thread waits for mustaju... On July 20 2011 15:49 mustaju wrote:
Way to be dicks, guys. Must feel pretty demoralizing to be the first entire team in BW history to be told that they're all dispensable and unwanted. Where did you hear that??
This is the first time an entire team has been put up for trade. I'm assuming that's the message the management wants to get across. Corporations tend to be dicks.
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It's not that the team is dispensable and unwanted, it's that the team as it is right now won't work.
It's like a long distance relationship...you can love the girl and she can love you all you two want, but if you guys never see each other, it's not going to work out. Things need to change, like you need to go to her, or her to you.
Same thing. The team isn't cutting it with a team full of mid-level players. They need an Ace we can rely on to win games. We need rookies who can rise up and step up to the plate (see: Bogus - not a rookie but he's doing what the team needs)
We're making changes for STX SouL to survive as a team - so we don't go the way of the Estro.
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On July 21 2011 03:57 Weedk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:43 Torenhire wrote:On July 21 2011 03:33 Weedk wrote:Before anybody else in this thread waits for mustaju... On July 20 2011 15:49 mustaju wrote:
Way to be dicks, guys. Must feel pretty demoralizing to be the first entire team in BW history to be told that they're all dispensable and unwanted. Where did you hear that?? This is the first time an entire team has been put up for trade. I'm assuming that's the message the management wants to get across. Corporations tend to be dicks.
This happens all the time in professional sports. Everybody in the Celtics is essentially available and the only Laker that's currently untouchable is Kobe.
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On July 21 2011 03:47 Caos2 wrote:
STX might hold on to Bogus, but Kal would be a great addition to WeMade. Maybe in exchange for Free and Mind.
Wemade cant let go Mind, especially for and underperforming Kal, the best trade Wemade could get would be bogus, and since i dont think that would happen for a number of reasons, i seriously doubt Wemade is going to do any notable trades with STX
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On July 21 2011 03:57 Weedk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 03:43 Torenhire wrote:On July 21 2011 03:33 Weedk wrote:Before anybody else in this thread waits for mustaju... On July 20 2011 15:49 mustaju wrote:
Way to be dicks, guys. Must feel pretty demoralizing to be the first entire team in BW history to be told that they're all dispensable and unwanted. Where did you hear that?? This is the first time an entire team has been put up for trade. I'm assuming that's the message the management wants to get across. Corporations tend to be dicks.
It's STX's coach that actually proposed and got permission from STX to do this, not STX themselves. And why do you think corporations tend to be dicks? are you one of those anti-big business guys lol?
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