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STX Puts up their entire player roster for trade - Page 23

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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 20 2011 15:28 GMT
#441
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 20 2011 15:29 GMT
#442
That is true, the massive shake-up can just as likely rejuvenate STX as much as it may flatten them. Though looking at it in hindsight, it is a fairly intelligent idea, collateral and all. Having multiple aces is a good idea but when your best players are players that are all capable of slumping really badly then you do need to make changes.
BlackTactiks
Profile Joined May 2011
United States52 Posts
July 20 2011 15:31 GMT
#443
On July 20 2011 11:03 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 11:02 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
Holy shit, management must be PISSED to sell their entire team off like that.

BUY YOUR OWN KAL, ONLY FOR 36,000,000 WON A YEAR.

FUCK WHAT A WASTE OF MY 1000TH POST

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


lol...
Working Towards Greatness :)
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 15:33:37
July 20 2011 15:32 GMT
#444
Yeah, really not that crazy. It's a big move, but it's exactly what many pro sport teams have done before. I am sure STX just told all the other teams, 'My team is open. Come at me with your best player-for-player trades. If they're good, I'll do it.'

If teams come out and want to try to trade trash for players like Bogus, STX will probably tell them to fuck off and stay pat. If they think that they can get some great prospects or younger stars for the more established players like Kal or Calm, they'll probably do it. If they like someone for whatever reason, like let's say Pure, and he's offered up, they'll do a trade.

They're not just doing a garage sale here. They want STX to be a new team, but they want a competitive team that can thrive for a title in the next year or two. They haven't been winning with their current foundation, so they want to shake it up. Some of the fans of their favorite players might be upset, but for fans of the actual team, STX, this could be a great move.

I really hope teams like Fox, OZ, and Khan all take up STX's offers and try to spin some deals. All those teams need to make some big moves to contend with SKT1, CJ, KT and to a lesser extent, Stars. It adds some excitement to the lead up to the finals/offseason. Reminds me of when people thought Jaedong was going to leave OZ because his parents were sick of him carrying the team, and everyone was speculating on what team would sign him.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 20 2011 15:37 GMT
#445
yeah like has been said its all about the player for player trades.
im not sure who would want to go there of value right now but i dont think they will be disbanding.
imo they should be offering multiple players for really good players to get back into it.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 15:47:23
July 20 2011 15:47 GMT
#446
i hope they sold it well to their players. if a team puts you up for trade it basically sais *we do no really want to hold you, bogus* and imho that weakens the team spirit
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 20 2011 15:52 GMT
#447
Maybe some of their players are like Andrew Bynum, who only seems to play well when he's the subject of trade rumors.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
July 20 2011 15:55 GMT
#448
The only one I actually see being moved is Hero for some reason. Hero for a Khan rookie something seems viable since Khan's Zerg line is pretty bad. The forner Estro players Hyvaa and Classic could potentially be moved as well.
KT_Violet
exog
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway279 Posts
July 20 2011 15:56 GMT
#449
This smells like a trick to somehow end up in SC2...
nok.jp
Profile Joined August 2009
Japan248 Posts
July 20 2011 15:58 GMT
#450
Calm (or Modesty)! welcome to KHANNNNNN we gonna give you Juni
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Healasouhait
Profile Joined July 2011
France28 Posts
July 20 2011 16:00 GMT
#451
Well, must admit something had to be done for STX. Build a team around a guy like Bogus would be great to see. Looking forward for the outcome of that move.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 20 2011 16:05 GMT
#452
Would it be possible for a mod to alter the "great post" script to replace all of the SC2s in this thread? It's not as if anyone talking about that game is either contributing to the conversation, or really knows what's going on in BW.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
July 20 2011 16:10 GMT
#453
Very daring move, have to say. Only time will tell if this is actually going to work out for STX. Doing this gigantic trade-off could well give STX a bad reputation, and in case none of their players get traded, who knows what will happen. I think that if that happens, most of the current players will be so pissed with this decision and will not trust STX anymore, and therefore just quit for good.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
UkGracken
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom129 Posts
July 20 2011 16:12 GMT
#454
I think that SKT1 Should trade BEST for TOssgirl, somehow i feel Fantasy and bisu would be encouraged to try harder.. what do they need 2 imba toss for anyway??? :D
UK GRACKEN LETS GET CRACKING
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 20 2011 16:16 GMT
#455
On July 21 2011 01:05 hacklebeast wrote:
Would it be possible for a mod to alter the "great post" script to replace all of the SC2s in this thread? It's not as if anyone talking about that game is either contributing to the conversation, or really knows what's going on in BW.

This please!

Also, I'm looking forward to Khan possibly adding some stable depth to their line (Calm comes to my mid first) and we can afford to trade away one or two of our many many rookies.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#456
On July 21 2011 01:16 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 01:05 hacklebeast wrote:
Would it be possible for a mod to alter the "great post" script to replace all of the SC2s in this thread? It's not as if anyone talking about that game is either contributing to the conversation, or really knows what's going on in BW.

This please!

Also, I'm looking forward to Khan possibly adding some stable depth to their line (Calm comes to my mid first) and we can afford to trade away one or two of our many many rookies.


Calm for a rookie?

???


Calm for Jangbi or something maybe, but they're not going to trade away one of their ace players for some rookie on Khan lol.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 16:24:45
July 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#457
On July 21 2011 01:00 Healasouhait wrote:
Well, must admit something had to be done for STX. Build a team around a guy like Bogus would be great to see. Looking forward for the outcome of that move.


STX's "up and coming" core could plausibly be:

Bogus, Modesty, Classic, hyvaa
Keep Shuttle (and maybe by.hero) as "veteran guidance".

Shuttle's obviously been playing for a few years, but under this scenario I'd think STX is trying to see what they could get in trade for (specifically) Calm, Kal, and by.hero. Some plausibilities:

Calm: OZ, Stars, KT, CJ all have good Zergs (or in KT's case, good prospects in Action and CH) and aren't reasonably in the bidding. ACE of course doesn't do trades. SKT has never seemed to worry too much about their bad Zergs and is doing okay right now. Then scenarios: to KHAN for Brave, Grape, or TurN; to WeMade for Midas or Major; to MBC for Jaehoon or Tyson.

Kal: KHAN, SKT, MBC, CJ all have solid Protoss. KT (Violet/Anyppi) and OZ (all those young Protoss) are both in flux, and imo would be giving up too much of their other advantages in a trade. WeMade could look to trade Major or Midas for Kal, especially if they're looking to develop Wooki. Woongjin's an interesting case: free is inconsistent, GuemChi's still a prospect-level player but an older one at this point; Flying isn't really working out so far. The obvious trade would be Really for Kal, since Stars picked up Light now. On the other hand, that leaves Stars paying for both free and Kal, who are currently playing about the same - mediocre - which doesn't make much sense.

by.hero: tbh, I don't see any trade possibilities here. Almost every team already has a mediocre Zerg who's a ZvP sniper when he's playing well. Granted they don't all have 400 APM mediocre Zergs, but I'm not seeing that as a selling point.

On the other hand, I can see quite a few teams (WeMade, Woongjin, KT at a minimum) who would be interested in picking up Shuttle; others (MBC, OZ, maybe Woongjin) who from a purely competitive standpoint should be willing to give a lot for Bogus.

Until we have more details, I don't know what we can really predict. :/
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
July 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#458
Oh boy, I hope they've got some deep pockets if they want to make this work. Overhauls can come at a cheap(er) price if you're going for young talent, but I'd imagine they'll try to net a couple medium-big names.
#TeamBuLba
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
July 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#459
I have this nagging feeling that Calm will somehow end up at SKT like Kwanro did. Clam 24/7 from there on out.

Having everyone up for trade could be a good thing. Encourage everyone to try a bit harder to make themselves more valuable.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#460
I'd survive with like a Kal for Snow trade, or something. :p

I dunno, I really like the STX Line-up as it is right now. They're just all really volatile players and maybe he's hoping to remedy that by open trades.

Anyways, I don't think we're going to see a completely different STX, maybe three trades at most that are relevant, and hopefully nothing too devastating. Kal for Really wouldn't be a fair trade, haha.
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