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On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?
No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions.
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.
Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.
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On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?
No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions. Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.
Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.
I love Flash but seriously,there is a place to make such comments,and that is place is not this thread.
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On July 06 2011 02:49 Sypuku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 02:46 Kyhol wrote:
Jaedong is still my favorite zerg for a reason. Sorry, this may upset someone but... Jaedong > Flash!!! Nobody cares your opinoon, the fact is Flash > All.
And Flash has golden badge. :p But gratz to JD, he needs this at this late stage in his career.
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On July 05 2011 14:30 HawaiianPig wrote:First he takes NaDa's throne, soon, his thread. + Show Spoiler +Next up: JD's Body.
No. Nada 4 lyfe.
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Jaedong is my alltime favourite player (sorry Boxer!). Absolutely outstanding.
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Very nice! 394 wins already. Very impressive.
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On July 05 2011 19:01 anatem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 16:26 infinity2k9 wrote:
Dong is the king now and forever. Mentally toughest, mechanically strongest Starcraft player ever.
NaDa's accomplishments never real feel as impressive to me as maybe they should, simply because they were from a different era of objectively inferior play. For Football fans it's like Real Madrid in the 50's, they were just crushing everyone but it was a whole different game back then. They are still respected for their awards but they don't even come into the discussion compared to today's Barcelona or some of the 80's and 90's teams (AC Milan with Marco Van Basten comes to mind).
Flash and Jaedong feel like the real deal for me. Just watch one of the Coca-Cola starleagues that recently went up on nevake if you want a laugh compared to current BW. NaDa advanced ahead a bit quicker than everyone else and crushed everyone for a period. But does it fee like Flash's ridiculous peak recently? It's not the same to me. And not just bias because NaDa left for SC2, because he was a great player even right up until he left.
Number of titles never feels like the right measure of skill anyway when you have so many Starleagues were arguably the better player lost or it just had a weird bracket. Let's rate them by their play at their best. Jaedong in ZvT at his best is the best ZvT ever in the game, his ZvP when practiced and at his peak is almost unbeatable, and he redefined ZvZ skill to the point where he had the highest win ratio in any matchup. your entire analogy crumbles to the counterexample of Pele vs. Messi. different does not necessarily mean easier, simpler versus more complex is the better and more precise association, but even for that there's an argument for and against relevance. you should glorify Nada. but you should also put Jaedong up there with him, and Flash above. the analogy here is better taken from from tennis: Bjorn Borg as Nada vs. Nadal as JD, with Federer as Flash, taken from 09-10, before Federer's smooth decline out of the no.1. spot; with time, JD will be better remembered for his rivalry with Flash and the fact that he occasionally was no.1, slowing the legend down from his complete domination, and scoring a couple records of his own, and less for how "good" he was. it's how sports history works through the minds of the fans when achievements become memories and statistics. people who were there though will always talk about the unforgettable matches that happened, but realistically the names JD or Bisu will never carry the same weight of Nada or Flash in esports history years from now, even if they will always be up there being brought up with the likes of oov and savior.
Wouldn't Flash be Nadal? the younger and better player...
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So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.
Nada remains king.
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On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.
Nada remains king.
by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records.
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On July 06 2011 04:30 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.
Nada remains king. by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records.
If broodwar is still kickin' by this time next year. :/
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On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?
No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions. Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.
Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.
If I were a Flash fan, I'd be embarrassed by you. 
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I think Leta having 23 ace wins is more surprising ;o
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Flash's ace match slump comes back to bite him in the ass.
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On July 06 2011 04:35 DaRkFrosT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:30 Milkis wrote:On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.
Nada remains king. by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records. If broodwar is still kickin' by this time next year. :/
kinda obnoxious to post this. BW is indeed alive and kicking. I dont see it disappearing unless Korea implodes
On July 06 2011 05:32 cujo2k wrote:
I think Leta having 23 ace wins is more surprising ;o
long time ace for Hite. Reason why they were a tad better than eSTRO
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On July 05 2011 15:38 Ideas wrote:
if jaedong never wins another title i will cry myself to sleep every night.
go JD!~!!
I feel like ever since flash won almost everything last year that somehow JD became the most liked BW progamer on TL (maybe cause all Z and P players clung to him to be against flash in some sorta way). is that just me or do other people feel that way too?
I always thought he is the most liked current BW progamer since forever :-)
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On July 06 2011 06:02 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 15:38 Ideas wrote:
if jaedong never wins another title i will cry myself to sleep every night.
go JD!~!!
I feel like ever since flash won almost everything last year that somehow JD became the most liked BW progamer on TL (maybe cause all Z and P players clung to him to be against flash in some sorta way). is that just me or do other people feel that way too? I always thought he is the most liked current BW progamer since forever :-)
Who couldn't love JD's deathstare 
+ Show Spoiler +Other than his opponents of course
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On July 06 2011 05:31 erin[go]bragh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?
No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions. On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.
Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it. If I were a Flash fan, I'd be embarrassed by you.
I am. =/
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