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Jaedong is now the "winningest" player in BW - Page 8

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Sypuku
Profile Joined December 2010
Russian Federation20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 18:05:17
July 05 2011 18:04 GMT
#141
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?


No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions.

On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.


Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50616 Posts
July 05 2011 18:11 GMT
#142
On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?


No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.


Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.


I love Flash but seriously,there is a place to make such comments,and that is place is not this thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ultimate Weapon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States132 Posts
July 05 2011 18:13 GMT
#143
On July 06 2011 02:49 Sypuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:46 Kyhol wrote:
Jaedong is still my favorite zerg for a reason. Sorry, this may upset someone but... Jaedong > Flash!!!


Nobody cares your opinoon, the fact is Flash > All.

And Flash has golden badge. :p But gratz to JD, he needs this at this late stage in his career.
God Young Ho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 18:16:21
July 05 2011 18:16 GMT
#144
On July 05 2011 14:30 HawaiianPig wrote:
First he takes NaDa's throne, soon, his thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Next up: JD's Body.

No. Nada 4 lyfe.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 18:21:46
July 05 2011 18:21 GMT
#145
Jaedong is my alltime favourite player (sorry Boxer!). Absolutely outstanding.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
July 05 2011 18:43 GMT
#146
jaedon <3
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
July 05 2011 18:48 GMT
#147
Very nice! 394 wins already. Very impressive.
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
July 05 2011 18:54 GMT
#148
YEEEEEEEEPPEEEEEEE
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
July 05 2011 19:00 GMT
#149
On July 05 2011 19:01 anatem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 16:26 infinity2k9 wrote:
Dong is the king now and forever. Mentally toughest, mechanically strongest Starcraft player ever.

NaDa's accomplishments never real feel as impressive to me as maybe they should, simply because they were from a different era of objectively inferior play. For Football fans it's like Real Madrid in the 50's, they were just crushing everyone but it was a whole different game back then. They are still respected for their awards but they don't even come into the discussion compared to today's Barcelona or some of the 80's and 90's teams (AC Milan with Marco Van Basten comes to mind).

Flash and Jaedong feel like the real deal for me. Just watch one of the Coca-Cola starleagues that recently went up on nevake if you want a laugh compared to current BW. NaDa advanced ahead a bit quicker than everyone else and crushed everyone for a period. But does it fee like Flash's ridiculous peak recently? It's not the same to me. And not just bias because NaDa left for SC2, because he was a great player even right up until he left.

Number of titles never feels like the right measure of skill anyway when you have so many Starleagues were arguably the better player lost or it just had a weird bracket. Let's rate them by their play at their best. Jaedong in ZvT at his best is the best ZvT ever in the game, his ZvP when practiced and at his peak is almost unbeatable, and he redefined ZvZ skill to the point where he had the highest win ratio in any matchup.


your entire analogy crumbles to the counterexample of Pele vs. Messi.

different does not necessarily mean easier, simpler versus more complex is the better and more precise association, but even for that there's an argument for and against relevance.

you should glorify Nada.

but you should also put Jaedong up there with him, and Flash above.

the analogy here is better taken from from tennis: Bjorn Borg as Nada vs. Nadal as JD, with Federer as Flash, taken from 09-10, before Federer's smooth decline out of the no.1. spot;

with time, JD will be better remembered for his rivalry with Flash and the fact that he occasionally was no.1, slowing the legend down from his complete domination, and scoring a couple records of his own, and less for how "good" he was. it's how sports history works through the minds of the fans when achievements become memories and statistics.

people who were there though will always talk about the unforgettable matches that happened, but realistically the names JD or Bisu will never carry the same weight of Nada or Flash in esports history years from now, even if they will always be up there being brought up with the likes of oov and savior.



Wouldn't Flash be Nadal? the younger and better player...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:03:18
July 05 2011 19:03 GMT
#150
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.

Nada remains king.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#151
On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.

Nada remains king.


by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records.
DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
July 05 2011 19:35 GMT
#152
On July 06 2011 04:30 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.

Nada remains king.


by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records.


If broodwar is still kickin' by this time next year. :/
Libera me from hell.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 05 2011 19:38 GMT
#153
Jaedong Flash fighting!!
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
July 05 2011 20:31 GMT
#154
On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?


No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.


Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.


If I were a Flash fan, I'd be embarrassed by you.
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
July 05 2011 20:32 GMT
#155
I think Leta having 23 ace wins is more surprising ;o
THE ANSWER IS 288
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 05 2011 20:36 GMT
#156
Flash's ace match slump comes back to bite him in the ass.
☺
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 20:37:26
July 05 2011 20:36 GMT
#157
On July 06 2011 04:35 DaRkFrosT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:30 Milkis wrote:
On July 06 2011 04:03 Zzoram wrote:
So it takes a combination of Flash + Jaedong to match Nada's record.

Nada remains king.


by this time next year both flash and jaedong will have surpassed all of nada's records.


If broodwar is still kickin' by this time next year. :/

kinda obnoxious to post this. BW is indeed alive and kicking. I dont see it disappearing unless Korea implodes

On July 06 2011 05:32 cujo2k wrote:
I think Leta having 23 ace wins is more surprising ;o

long time ace for Hite. Reason why they were a tad better than eSTRO
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 05 2011 21:02 GMT
#158
On July 05 2011 15:38 Ideas wrote:
if jaedong never wins another title i will cry myself to sleep every night.

go JD!~!!

I feel like ever since flash won almost everything last year that somehow JD became the most liked BW progamer on TL (maybe cause all Z and P players clung to him to be against flash in some sorta way). is that just me or do other people feel that way too?


I always thought he is the most liked current BW progamer since forever :-)
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
July 05 2011 21:51 GMT
#159
On July 06 2011 06:02 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 15:38 Ideas wrote:
if jaedong never wins another title i will cry myself to sleep every night.

go JD!~!!

I feel like ever since flash won almost everything last year that somehow JD became the most liked BW progamer on TL (maybe cause all Z and P players clung to him to be against flash in some sorta way). is that just me or do other people feel that way too?


I always thought he is the most liked current BW progamer since forever :-)


Who couldn't love JD's deathstare

+ Show Spoiler +
Other than his opponents of course
Jaedong and Baby
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
July 05 2011 22:00 GMT
#160
On July 06 2011 05:31 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:04 Sypuku wrote:
On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
Don't you find it annoying when in the Flash threads people come in and say dumb stuff about Flash?


No, i don't. It's just funny because we have facts. Facts > opinions.

On July 06 2011 02:58 revy wrote:
How do you think other people feel when there is a thread for that gamer and you come in saying "Flash>All". It's just not cool.


Flash>All It's the fact. And this fact isn't cool for Jaedong funs, i agree with it.


If I were a Flash fan, I'd be embarrassed by you.


I am. =/
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