Wow i like Sea but he's never ever been a serious contender to win a Starleague... Whereas players like Jangbi, Iris, Midas during their peaks were at least top 3 candidates for respective leagues.

ELESSAR

Bulgaria173 Posts

May 15 2011 07:12 GMT

#163

Jangbi has 3 finals - 2 MSLs and GSL season 2(the only real GSL). Definitely the most deserving on the list although he slumped hard after his second MSL final

NicksonReyes

Philippines4431 Posts

May 15 2011 07:17 GMT

#164

Voted ACE, because piano isn't in the poll

DoX.)

Singapore6164 Posts

May 15 2011 07:20 GMT

#165

ACE definitely

Keone

United States812 Posts

May 15 2011 07:24 GMT

#166

On May 15 2011 15:45 paulinepain wrote:
[NC]...YellOw, i don't even want to argue on this, all old school players should understand why.

Please read what's written just above the poll before posting >_<

tedster

984 Posts

May 15 2011 07:28 GMT

#167

People are absolutely out of their minds if they think anyone but Midas or Iris should be at the top of this poll. These were guys who, for HUGE stretches of time, were considered not just the best at their respective races but top 2 in the game overall. Iris and Midas both were in the "so much better than the rest of the pack" categories during their very extended peaks whereas none of the other players on that list have ever really been so good as to be "way beyond whoever is #3".

Jangbi could make an argument but he was never even really considered the best at his race for any extended period of time - he simply was lucky/skilled enough to make a few finals but certainly didn't deserve to win them. He's close, for sure, but having followed the game when either of the preceding two players were in their primes, it was always a shock when they were knocked out of a league by anyone other than, say, Savior.

Like, I would love to say zerO, because he's a great player and watching him is an amazing treat, but Zero has never been considered #1 or #2 in the game and certainly never #1 zerg with a bullet. Iris and Midas both went through really long periods of time where they were uncontested #1 at their race, not this #3 Terran bullshit that Sea gets a lot of credit for. Being #3-5 Terran for years is an awesome accomplishment but has nothing to do with winning a SL or deserving a title for being, at best, a top10 or top15 player.

So yeah. Iris and Midas both pass the Yellow test; best at their race for a long window, only lost to the very best player/eventually winner at the time, no seriously weak matchups, could give the reigning Bonjwa a run for his money.

JL13

United States1384 Posts

May 15 2011 08:03 GMT

#168

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On May 15 2011 16:28 tedster wrote:
People are absolutely out of their minds if they think anyone but Midas or Iris should be at the top of this poll. These were guys who, for HUGE stretches of time, were considered not just the best at their respective races but top 2 in the game overall. Iris and Midas both were in the "so much better than the rest of the pack" categories during their very extended peaks whereas none of the other players on that list have ever really been so good as to be "way beyond whoever is #3".

Jangbi could make an argument but he was never even really considered the best at his race for any extended period of time - he simply was lucky/skilled enough to make a few finals but certainly didn't deserve to win them. He's close, for sure, but having followed the game when either of the preceding two players were in their primes, it was always a shock when they were knocked out of a league by anyone other than, say, Savior.

Like, I would love to say zerO, because he's a great player and watching him is an amazing treat, but Zero has never been considered #1 or #2 in the game and certainly never #1 zerg with a bullet. Iris and Midas both went through really long periods of time where they were uncontested #1 at their race, not this #3 Terran bullshit that Sea gets a lot of credit for. Being #3-5 Terran for years is an awesome accomplishment but has nothing to do with winning a SL or deserving a title for being, at best, a top10 or top15 player

I agree wholeheartedly with this guy's post. I'm a huge fan of Jangbi, but he doesn't really hold a candle to Midas and Iris. I would put my vote in for Iris simply because I watched him at his prime and was unfortunate to never have watch Midas live during his prime. Iris' match-up % against all three races was so good, too. And even later in his career Avalon MSL?, he took it to Bisu. He's reached deep into leagues at different points in his career which makes his resume even better.

and if he didn't freaking choke away a 2-0 lead against GGplay... or his lead against Kwanro... Just so disappointing for him

pred470r

Bulgaria3265 Posts

May 15 2011 08:17 GMT

#169

After the person you left out on purpose, I think Sea is the next in line for the "most deserving a title" guys.

Mortician

Bulgaria2332 Posts

May 15 2011 08:17 GMT

#170

I am kinda torn between Iris and Sea. Iris, because of his Bo5 vs Savior, when noone could take a game off of him, let alone go to the 5th game in a bo5 and still put on a fight.

And sea for the obvious reasons ^^

Gann1

United States1575 Posts

May 15 2011 08:25 GMT

#171

I voted for Sea, but after thinking about it for a bit i'd have to say Midas. He was really fucking good in 2006-2007, but was always stopped by Savior.

weiliem

2071 Posts

May 15 2011 08:35 GMT

#172

Yellow not in the post?? despite being forever 2nd?? xP

Mazer

Canada1086 Posts

May 15 2011 08:38 GMT

#173

Idra...

I mean Iris. I was almost certain he had one going into this thread so I had to switch from Sea when I learned otherwise.

c3rberUs

Japan11286 Posts

May 15 2011 08:43 GMT

#174

Upon glancing the thread, I immediately thought of the King of Special Events. I think midas is the best player to have never won a title.

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

May 15 2011 08:47 GMT

#175

this thread is proof that if you have anything remotely colourful and/or resembling a graphic people will ignore everything else about the post. even if the rest of the post is bold, caps, and underlined

iFU.pauline

France1547 Posts

May 15 2011 08:50 GMT

#176

On May 15 2011 16:24 Keone wrote:

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Please read what's written just above the poll before posting >_<

I actually read it, but i don't feel comfortable putting anybody else except him

now if i make the effort of forcing myself to pick up in the list i would say Sea, i believe lot of people point out already the reasons.

True_Spike

Poland3420 Posts

May 15 2011 08:54 GMT

#177

Goodfriend.

dtz

5834 Posts

May 15 2011 09:02 GMT

#178

I feel that Sea is probably the best player there but i don't feel like he has ever deserved to win a starleague nor was he ever likely to.

Midas is my first choice. JangBi was second. There were times when you think that they were going to win a starleague but unfortunately they never did.

Glioburd

France1911 Posts

May 15 2011 09:09 GMT

#179

Voted FBH. Leta, Zero, JangBi deserve a starleague title too.

Armathai

1023 Posts

May 15 2011 09:09 GMT

#180

Iris is my choice, Midas was also in my thoughts.

At first I was gonna go for Sea or Zero, but, they've never had a period where they were actually the best and should have won a starleague, and I don't think you should get a starleague vote out of pity.