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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 17 2011 08:44 GMT
#261
Sea isn't getting all those votes just because he's deserving, he found a place in teamliquid's heart when he went on teamliquid attack. Do not try to pin it on him being first on the poll, that's insulting to him and the general teamliquid populous.
Hi.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
May 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#262
upmagic
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 17 2011 09:42 GMT
#263
On May 17 2011 17:30 rift wrote:
(Z)iloveoov 334전 203승 131패 60.8%

Oov doesn't TLPDize correctly....
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
May 17 2011 11:44 GMT
#264
On May 15 2011 22:20 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 22:10 mdb wrote:
I think that everyone who deserves a title has won one, but maybe chojja should have won another starleague.


if it weren't for the maps, he would have won that osl where he played casy. he played brilliantly on rush hour then just got raped by the rest of the pool (cultivation period, old peaks, 815).


No GTR you fool, that OSL belonged to Yellow ! But the least deserving SL winner Casy went trough...

On topic, Yellow was the obvious choice of course, i understand why he was left apart, there wouldn't be any debate.

I think that Midas and Iris are on top of my list. Maybe Iris more than Midas because Midas choked a bit more and his peak was during Savior's reign, he came really close to break his dominance but he just fell short.
Iris peak came just at the end of Savior's, he was one of the guy who ousted him actually, beating him in ro8 of Daum 07, then he destroyed Stork and lost to GGplay amazing hive control. I can't think of another guy who played so well, came this close and still never won it. He was like climbing Mt Everest and he fell 10m away from summit.

Jangbi, imo never had it. He got really great at a time, but he was a new Zeus to me, a good protoss, a huge choker.
Best was a PvT wonder, abusing your easy match-up can help you become an undeserving winner just like Casy. thanks to July, it didn't happen!
Kal, Leta, Zero, Light, were never the best players of their respectives races at a time. Kal got a final but every knew he was gonna lose, i mean he was playing JD...
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
May 17 2011 11:47 GMT
#265
On May 17 2011 20:44 ~chut~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 22:20 GTR wrote:
On May 15 2011 22:10 mdb wrote:
I think that everyone who deserves a title has won one, but maybe chojja should have won another starleague.


if it weren't for the maps, he would have won that osl where he played casy. he played brilliantly on rush hour then just got raped by the rest of the pool (cultivation period, old peaks, 815).


No GTR you fool, that OSL belonged to Yellow ! But the least deserving SL winner Casy went trough...

On topic, Yellow was the obvious choice of course, i understand why he was left apart, there wouldn't be any debate.

I think that Midas and Iris are on top of my list. Maybe Iris more than Midas because Midas choked a bit more and his peak was during Savior's reign, he came really close to break his dominance but he just fell short.
Iris peak came just at the end of Savior's, he was one of the guy who ousted him actually, beating him in ro8 of Daum 07, then he destroyed Stork and lost to GGplay amazing hive control. I can't think of another guy who played so well, came this close and still never won it. He was like climbing Mt Everest and he fell 10m away from summit.

Jangbi, imo never had it. He got really great at a time, but he was a new Zeus to me, a good protoss, a huge choker.
Best was a PvT wonder, abusing your easy match-up can help you become an undeserving winner just like Casy. thanks to July, it didn't happen!
Kal, Leta, Zero, Light, were never the best players of their respectives races at a time. Kal got a final but every knew he was gonna lose, i mean he was playing JD...


actually best back then was known for his pvp
midas would be my pick
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
Alex)
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Scotland263 Posts
May 17 2011 12:29 GMT
#266
On May 17 2011 17:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I voted Zero because out of everyone on this list he's the only one I see as good enough to eventually win a starleague as well as being damn good for awhile and making pretty deep starleague runs


so true, i really want him to win a starleague i think he really deserves it.
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
May 17 2011 16:03 GMT
#267
On May 17 2011 20:47 GoodRamen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:44 ~chut~ wrote:
On May 15 2011 22:20 GTR wrote:
On May 15 2011 22:10 mdb wrote:
I think that everyone who deserves a title has won one, but maybe chojja should have won another starleague.


if it weren't for the maps, he would have won that osl where he played casy. he played brilliantly on rush hour then just got raped by the rest of the pool (cultivation period, old peaks, 815).


No GTR you fool, that OSL belonged to Yellow ! But the least deserving SL winner Casy went trough...

On topic, Yellow was the obvious choice of course, i understand why he was left apart, there wouldn't be any debate.

I think that Midas and Iris are on top of my list. Maybe Iris more than Midas because Midas choked a bit more and his peak was during Savior's reign, he came really close to break his dominance but he just fell short.
Iris peak came just at the end of Savior's, he was one of the guy who ousted him actually, beating him in ro8 of Daum 07, then he destroyed Stork and lost to GGplay amazing hive control. I can't think of another guy who played so well, came this close and still never won it. He was like climbing Mt Everest and he fell 10m away from summit.

Jangbi, imo never had it. He got really great at a time, but he was a new Zeus to me, a good protoss, a huge choker.
Best was a PvT wonder, abusing your easy match-up can help you become an undeserving winner just like Casy. thanks to July, it didn't happen!
Kal, Leta, Zero, Light, were never the best players of their respectives races at a time. Kal got a final but every knew he was gonna lose, i mean he was playing JD...


actually best back then was known for his pvp
midas would be my pick


He had a good pvp too, it's true, but, given the nature of pvp, his pvt was more stable imo.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 17 2011 16:43 GMT
#268
JangBi IMO. He was on the cusp of seizing multiple Starleagues. At his prime, all his matchups were top 3. Can't say the same for Sea because he always had Fantasy/Leta/Light/Mind and now Baby to hog the 2nd best Terran spotlight with. Sea was simply solid - the ultimate gatekeeper. I sincerely hope he can still break out of that (maybe if he gets transferred off MBC to a more competitive environment)
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 17 2011 16:58 GMT
#269
On May 18 2011 01:03 ~chut~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:47 GoodRamen wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:44 ~chut~ wrote:
On May 15 2011 22:20 GTR wrote:
On May 15 2011 22:10 mdb wrote:
I think that everyone who deserves a title has won one, but maybe chojja should have won another starleague.


if it weren't for the maps, he would have won that osl where he played casy. he played brilliantly on rush hour then just got raped by the rest of the pool (cultivation period, old peaks, 815).


No GTR you fool, that OSL belonged to Yellow ! But the least deserving SL winner Casy went trough...

On topic, Yellow was the obvious choice of course, i understand why he was left apart, there wouldn't be any debate.

I think that Midas and Iris are on top of my list. Maybe Iris more than Midas because Midas choked a bit more and his peak was during Savior's reign, he came really close to break his dominance but he just fell short.
Iris peak came just at the end of Savior's, he was one of the guy who ousted him actually, beating him in ro8 of Daum 07, then he destroyed Stork and lost to GGplay amazing hive control. I can't think of another guy who played so well, came this close and still never won it. He was like climbing Mt Everest and he fell 10m away from summit.

Jangbi, imo never had it. He got really great at a time, but he was a new Zeus to me, a good protoss, a huge choker.
Best was a PvT wonder, abusing your easy match-up can help you become an undeserving winner just like Casy. thanks to July, it didn't happen!
Kal, Leta, Zero, Light, were never the best players of their respectives races at a time. Kal got a final but every knew he was gonna lose, i mean he was playing JD...


actually best back then was known for his pvp
midas would be my pick


He had a good pvp too, it's true, but, given the nature of pvp, his pvt was more stable imo.


yeah he only had an 82% pvp winrate up until the ever osl finals, with a grand total of 5 (yes 5 lol) pvp losses in his career. his pvp was wayyyyyy less volatile than his pvt back then
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 17:31:53
May 17 2011 17:30 GMT
#270
Hyuk may not have the wins.

He doesn't really have the skills, either.

But he does have...my ♥

Sea's pretty good, though. I kind of missed the Iris boat; too noob
Megashira
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden98 Posts
May 17 2011 17:42 GMT
#271
Just look at the winrates. Leta and Sea with both almost 60% are monsters. I feel Leta is better than Sea as in, has accomplished more, so i voted Leta.
Playing with Fire - www.sc2pwf.se - www.twitter.com/teampwf
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
May 17 2011 17:49 GMT
#272
Kal is always looking promising, then a wild JD appears and knocks him out, it's almost funny to watch
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Seri
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
England86 Posts
May 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#273
Yeh, I would say Kal when he's on form.
Never Forget KT Zergs Hoejja <3 Action <3 Crazy-Hydra <3
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
May 17 2011 19:18 GMT
#274
Kal. Sea while more consistent in PL and in general has always failed hard in individual leagues. You can't fault Kal for getting owned by JD and Flash every time he gets close to the finals.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2005 Posts
May 17 2011 19:39 GMT
#275
Sea in terms of having potential to deliver.

I guess I give sympathy for Iris for being so close to huge wins for so many times. Getting reverse sweeped in OSL finals, getting 3-2'd by in form Savior in an awesome serie, getting reverse sweeped by Kwanro in MSL semis, getting beaten by Flash's TvT in GomTV finals.
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
May 17 2011 20:00 GMT
#276
Most realistic choice would be Kal.
A choice made more on feelings, i would like to see Midas finally get one.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
May 17 2011 20:04 GMT
#277
On May 18 2011 01:43 Caladbolg wrote:
JangBi IMO. He was on the cusp of seizing multiple Starleagues. At his prime, all his matchups were top 3. Can't say the same for Sea because he always had Fantasy/Leta/Light/Mind and now Baby to hog the 2nd best Terran spotlight with. Sea was simply solid - the ultimate gatekeeper. I sincerely hope he can still break out of that (maybe if he gets transferred off MBC to a more competitive environment)


Whatever happened to Jangbi. Back in his days, he played like a boss. Now....
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
May 17 2011 20:05 GMT
#278
Sea has consistently for some time performed at the skill level of a starleague champion.

Midas definitely deserves something for all the times he has come close to making the final. For a long time he was a player everyone feared. Now he'll slowly be phased out like all the other veterans who lack the prestige so crucial for longevity.. Poor guy he's been playing games for his life since he was 14..
Victoria Concordia Crescit
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
May 17 2011 20:17 GMT
#279
so it seems there is a curse that if you beat kal in the semifinals you always lose in the finals
and the only one to break that was flash .....
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 17 2011 20:53 GMT
#280
Kal , leta and jangbi ( back in the golden protoss era ) jangbi in current form I think he don't deserve a title
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