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Netherlands6142 Posts
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You thought foreign Broodwar was dead and forgotten? The halls of iCCup barren and empty, with only cobwebs and tumbleweeds stirring in the winds? Think again. The AoV iCCup StarLeague has been in full swing for the past 5 weeks and as we're about to plunge headfirst into the Round of 32 - here's TeamLiquid's preview.
Sporting a $1000+ prizepool and a 60 player roster, the AoV iCCup StarLeague is the biggest foreign StarCraft:BroodWar tourney since TSL2. On the 9th of February a Ladderstage kicked off. Over 400 players stormed the last and the top 56 players advanced into the next round. They were divided into 14 groups of 4, duking it out MSL style over the past 3 weeks. The 28 players that advanced were joined by 4 invites, totalling 32 players that are now getting ready for the final haul, starting with the Round of 32.
Get out your agendas folks - here's the schedule:
On top of this, replay casts for Ro32, Ro16 and ro8 will all continue Sunday at 19:00 CET / 1:00 EST following the Saturday cast.
As a lot of the more well-known names in BroodWar have made the transition to StarCraft 2, the ISL roster is full with only a handful of well-knowns, a lot of newcomers and a couple of veterans. The full player list is as follows:
A lot of names that you might not recognize? Here's who to look out for!
Kolll (A high) Kolll is everyone's favorite pocket-size German Zerg. Hopping onto iCCup at only 12 years old, he managed to get to a B- rank in only the first season and has since gone toe-to-toe with both Bisu and Stork. Kolll is back for ISL. He recently started streaming on TeamLiquid, drawing many eyes. If he gets back into his former shape he'll be a true contender for ISL champion.
Ramms (A high) Russia is known for being very Terrany. Notable names are Androide, Advokate and Brat_Ok and of the 9 Russians that qualified, 6 are Terrans. During his Round of 56 cast, Ramms was marked by commentators as one of the favourites to win the whole thing, as he destroyed his group 2-0. Ranked #7 outside Korea, he might be the best Terran around. Keep an eye on this guy.
Yayba (A- high) Yayba is one of the more accomplished Protoss players. Throughout the years he continuously performed well in the Polish championships and Polish WCG. He placed first in GosuGamer's Gosucup #7 and was the runner-up of 2009's SC2GGSL. In 2010's WCG world finals he defeated A2, F91 as well as White-Ra. Arguably the best Protoss in this tournament and certainly one of the most accomplished players.
Other notable names include Hungarians Ace, the ranked #1 outside Korea with a 79% div1 winrate, and Sziky, ex-Mouz and has won 4 Defiler.ru tournaments. Bakuryu, who recently got his first fan interview. Shauni, TL's favorite Broodwar streamer, TL-Arena's first champion and the hero of iCCup Attack! #5. We can't also forget the other invites - Castro, of TSL fame, PatrOn, his fellow countryman and Game, the only remaining Random player. Still not sure who's who? Check out JoeKim's player interviews!
Fair enough, Foreigners aren't as good as the top tier Korean players. However, this doesn't mean their play is any less fun. It's safe to say Foreigners have their very own style, setting them apart from the Korean scene. Apart from the copious amounts of drama already enveloping this event, Foreigners seem a lot cheesier. It's almost common to see 2 Gate PvZ, hidden expansions, 8 Rax, slowdrop and the notorious 4 Hatch ZvP. Luckily, Foreigners also excel at the more exotic and creative cheeses (good old 2 Rax Fact TvZ anyone?). With that premise, the Ro56 certainly didn't disappoint. Read on for the Top 5 Most Hilarious Games from the Round of 56.
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The ISL features a gigantic mappool. In the Ro56 we already saw the illustrious Hitchhiker in action, and in the Ro32 the Best-of-Threes will kick off on Icarus. After that, it's Loser Picks on one of the following maps: Fighting Spirit, Colosseum II, HeartBreak Ridge 2. The rest of the mappool consists of: HitchHiker, Destination, Empire of the Sun, Othello, Neo Medusa, Grandline SE, Tau Cross, Benzene, Bloody Ridge, Python, Matchpoint, Peaks of Baekdu, Aztec.
For all the SC2 people tuning in, one of those names might sound familiar. "Peaks of Baekdu" has made it's comeback in SC2 under the name " Crossfire". Peaks of Beakdu is sure to be played during the finals of this tournament. Get ready to see some new strats on a classic map or this new map in a classic game.
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Pholon/ISL/islinterview.png) Interview with Sayle Hi Sayle, thanks for the interview! Can we start off with a quick introduction of you as a BroodWar commentor and how you got involved with ISL?
Hi Pholon! Well, I'm currently the 'leader' of the ICCup BW TV section, which is to say I'm the only member of it ^^; I got into casting kind of randomly when ICCup needed someone to stream an A/B rank tour a few months ago, and I've been doing ICCup and various other events since then. I got into ISL thanks to LRM)Game, who is of course the organizor of the whole event. I can't remember exactly how it went, but one day he somehow ended up on Skype with me during one of the casts and he thought I did a pretty good job. Next thing I know, "hey Sayle, I'm about to run the biggest BW event since TSL2, wanna cast it?"
We know that you cast many games, including ISL, Chronicles of KasPra etc. What was your motivation to become one of the most dedicated BW commentators?
I guess a large part is that I'm one of the only ones left. I remember when Klazart, Cholera, and a ton of other commentators regularly did casts of Proleague and stuff. Nowadays, I think there's just a couple of Youtube guys like NuketheStars who still do it, but I'm probably the most active one. I love BW and the BW community, and I feel that the foreign community is a big part of that regardless of how dominant the Koreans are. I think when you boil it down, I'm just the same as any other diehard BW fan, except that I'm actively trying to do something to help instead of just complain on the forums.
You're the main caster for ISL. How do you like the organisation of the tournament? For example, how do you like the format (MST into Single Elim) and the choice of maps?
Haha, for a second I thought this would be a loaded question about some of the recent 'drama', but you were just talking about the format and stuff. I really like it so far. The ladder stage is nice and reminiscent of TSL. I think MST style groups is also a lot of fun, since it can lend to some interesting intra-group dynamics as we've already seen. Ro32 onwards is pretty standard so no complaints there. I think the biggest issue people have had so far is the map choice. There are some interesting map choices in there, not least of which is of course Hitchhiker. Since I'm not actually playing, I don't have to worry about map balance or practicing on too many maps or anything like that, so from my spectator/caster perspective, having some unusual maps in there makes for some fun games. I can see why players might have some issues with it though.
When you look back at the Ro56, were there good games? Were your expectations met? And, perhaps more interestingly, how do you feel foreigners are different from Koreans? Can you describe the foreigner style?
Hmm. I think this one depends a lot on someone's definition of a 'good game'. As a caster, any game that has exciting moments like big reaver shots or storms is great. Games with unusual strategies or just clever cheese are also very fun to watch. On the other hand, I have seen some complaints about the overall skill level being somewhat lacking, and this is somewhat valid. To be fair though, you can't really expect Korean progamer level play from these guys anyway, so all things considered, I've been very satisfied with the games so far. As for style, I think foreigners just use a lot more strategies not seen in Proleague. Honestly, I think a lot of the time these might not be the 'optimal' strategies compared to the Korean ones, but the foreigners can get away with it due to the overall mechanics being weaker as well. This means slight deficiencies in certain strategies might not be punished as hard and similarly, certain progamer builds might not even be possible to execute properly. I don't think I can comment on an overall "foreigner style" though since really, every foreigner has their own personal style.
We’ve seen some pretty awesome games in the Ro56. What’s your favourite moment so far?
Probably the game that *spoiler alert* Joekim lost to Cute, getting him eliminated from the ISL. There are just so many awesome things about that game, not to mention the drama that ensued. I remember seeing the drop going in and thinking HONG JIN HOOOOOOO On the other hand, *spoiler alert* Time's recent game against Casper was quite hilarious as well. Once again, it wasn't just the quality of the game, but also the whole situation that made it awesome. It was especially funny to just feel the disbelief from Casper when he got back in the channel. "What? I lost?"
We’re about to head into the Ro32. How are you looking forward to this? What do you expect from the next round? Looking at the brackets, what matches do you think people should definitely watch?
Given how many upsets we had in the group stages, I'm even more pumped for the Ro32. I'm especially excited to see how Game does in his match, and I'm sure a lot of people are eager to see how he performs as well. Given that we're going into normal Bo3 style brackets though, I think there's less room for upsets than the group stages, which were all Bo1. On the other hand, the 'lesser' players have for the most part been weeded out, so we can expect higher quality games from now on as well. I'm not too familiar with many of the players, which is why I often get match recommendations from Game, but I'd certainly like to watch Mamom vs Kolll and Shauni vs Fakap-_-, which is a rematch from the group stages. I'd also very much like to see Julia vs Sziky, Cute vs Ramms, and Game vs vAriOus due to the drama/backstory surrounding those games rather than the players themselves necessarily 
Any last words/shoutouts?
Shoutout to my team rD! Check out our website at reality-defined.com! Shoutout to Game, Joekim, nOoNe, and everyone else helping to make the ISL run as smoothly as possible. Shoutout to Timestop! You gotta win the whole thing now man!
Who’ll win it all? Who do you want to win? Who’ll cause an upset/is a dark horse/will surprise everyone?
Sayle - Head of the iCCupTV BroodWar team and main caster for ISL I think it'll be Sziky, Ramms, or Scan. I'm rooting for Time though, simply for how hilarious it would be if he actually won the whole thing. As for a dark horse, Julia actually surprised me quite a lot when I casted his game. Not only was the level of play decent, but he actually mixed queens into his play (and not just to BM), so I'm very excited to see what he can do against Sziky.
Game - Organiser and last remaining player I think Sziky will win only due to his position in the brackets (will miss Ramms if Yayba beats Ramms). Otherwise, I expect and want Ramms to win this entire tournament. The dark horse for me in this tournament is PatrOn. People are asking who he is, and even when they find out his aka seem confused. He's very good and easily has potential to surprise many people in the BW community.
iCCup.nOoNe - Counter-abuse, referee, and "iCCup's voice over reason of Game's short temper" Scan, Dsaqwe/Dragon/Bakuryu, Dsaqwe
Shauni - Swedish Protoss hero, facing Fakap in the Ro32 I think most people agree that Sziky or Kolll are the most likely winners. I guess I want to win myself?? If not me, maybe Gotunk or Napoleon - not likely though. And i guess Deska or Yayba might upset and win
Superbig thanks to HawaiianPig, Game, Shauni, Kiante, harem, Sayle, byFd, supernovamaniac, Ares[Effort] and nOoNe for all their help and contributions!
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Wow, nice, i ve got a question, NVM: it is answered further down
Hungary hwaiting
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Katowice25012 Posts
Nice preview, looking forward to watching this.
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Can't wait to sit in for this stream hype !!!!!
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This is going to be interesting, I've only watched a small portion of korean BW and not a whole lot of foreign tournaments (basically only TSL2). I don't know the players but I'm going to look for a favourite and cheer him on regardless!
Good luck to all participants! Pricepool fighting~!
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Definitely going to cheer for Kolll, reading his liquipedia entry this guy has a nice rap sheet.
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thanks for the effort Pholon!
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It warms my heart to see foreigner BW still alive and kicking! I'll definitely be following this. :D
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Croatia9486 Posts
Awesome article Pholon!
What's good about the foreigner BW community is that all the players have certainly an unique personality and if you follow this tournament even for a bit, it's not very hard to choose your favorite player. Don't trust me? Check out some of the player's interviews!
The games itself might not be on the level of progamers, but when you combine it with all the drama, player's history, their interaction... it makes up for it and it's very enjoyable experience.
Hopefully this is only a first of many more, foreigner based, big BW tournaments since the release of SC2. Even if there isn't thousands of dollars in prize or progamer level gameplay, as long there's people willing to put effort into a BW community just for the sheer love of the game and community, nothing can bring us down!
Thank you all, you make me feel proud to be a part of the BW community.
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Great read. Next month will be my month dedicating to watch ISL at weekends. Rooting for fellow fin Napoleon, but expecting great games from Sziky/Koll/Shauni and Game. Darn I got too many to root for...
Also, not sure if this was asked from Game, but which is better offrace for him?
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Niiiice writeup, it's really gotten me even more pumped up for this than before! I only watched a few of the VODs earlier but I'm definitely going to check out the spotlighted ones.
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Pholon, you're awesome. Not only is this amazing hype, but it's also an important signal to future tournament hosts that if you decide to run an scbw tournament the community got your back and will support you all the way! 
GLHF
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Awesome job Pholon o,o
You got me HYPED.
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Nice read man i am so pumpt
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Canada5155 Posts
Awesome writeup . Looking forward to these casts!
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On March 24 2011 19:16 2Pacalypse- wrote:Awesome article Pholon! What's good about the foreigner BW community is that all the players have certainly an unique personality and if you follow this tournament even for a bit, it's not very hard to choose your favorite player. Don't trust me? Check out some of the player's interviews!The games itself might not be on the level of progamers, but when you combine it with all the drama, player's history, their interaction... it makes up for it and it's very enjoyable experience. Hopefully this is only a first of many more, foreigner based, big BW tournaments since the release of SC2. Even if there isn't thousands of dollars in prize or progamer level gameplay, as long there's people willing to put effort into a BW community just for the sheer love of the game and community, nothing can bring us down! Thank you all, you make me feel proud to be a part of the BW community.
This Amen to that!!!! Gogo! Come on! Lets all support the foreign BW scene!
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nice writeup :D:D gonna watch i think
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Awesome job guys
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Sick stuff. Great great job.
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Where can I get REPLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cool, i still love watching bw
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Gogo Sziky & Ace! Hungarians hwaitin!
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Australia7069 Posts
Great post pho-bizzle. Thanks for putting this together. cant wait for the fun to start :O
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awesome post, hype hype hype!
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OH MY GOD HYPE!!!! I had no idea this was even going on, now to the VOD's that have already been played. Kolll Hwaiting!
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I'll be sure to keep an eye on this!
BW is still #1 in my heart, and I'll always lend my time to support it 'till the day I die!
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Great job you guys, looking forward to watching.
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Is it really no better commentator than Sayle? Bah.
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DEMACIA6550 Posts
This is really nice pholon, you did a great job putting it together! I know I wasn't really that big of a help but regardless thanks for the credit. Can't wait for these matches!
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This thread was HUGE ! and totally sick, definately going to watch this just like I have every time so far :p
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I imagine Kolll must be a huge favorite
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gogo dsaqwe!!
<3 pholon and noone
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Very nice article, good luck to all the players.
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awesome!, where do I get reps ?
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On March 25 2011 01:01 Pippah wrote:awesome!, where do I get reps  ?
I don't think replays will be released before the end of the tournament. Not sure though.
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I think you underestimate some players. Szajna have huge chance to win this tournament. He easly makes A rank on multiple accounts every season with stats like 100-20. You may have seen his skill in TvP vs Bishop in ro56 game when he pwned solid B level protoss like a child.
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why is PvP considered one of the most hated matchups T___T
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Great write up. Hypehypehype.
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On March 24 2011 19:17 Jienny wrote: Also, not sure if this was asked from Game, but which is better offrace for him?
I can play all my races at a high level, maybe P as my offrace being the best since my PvT is far better than my ZvT. The reason I can be considered Terran although I play Random is that TvT is the only mirror I can compete well with (possibly my best matchup).
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Great write up ! Foreign as long as there still are people willing to do something. Gogogo kolll
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A lot of people are saying Sziky could win, but I think if he faces a good Terran player, he could get knocked out of the tournament.
Scan actually has a lot of tournament experience and has a much better chance of winning than Ramms, who I think is overrated.
So actually, I think Bakuryu or Shauni have the best chances of winning. Koll isn't the same player he was during the WCG and TSL2, sadly... so I don't think he has a good chance of going to the finals.
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BW fighting!
Its just the icing on the cake that there are 3 hungarian players in the Ro32 to root for.
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BW for life!! great stuff! Im loving the hype!
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so white ra is the final boss in isl ? anyway can't wait for this to kick off going to be epic :D
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Very nice hype thread, I dig all the info! And PvP is not hated, it isn't TvT.. geez.
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great write-up, good job pholon.
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Nice hype here, thanks!
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Great hype. It's a shame that Grack, Teeler and others have moved on because this tournament looks awesome.
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United States10328 Posts
wow nice hype thread! I'm pretty impressed :O
I'll try to watch some games :D
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Wow great job it's been awhile since I've actually been hyped for a foreigner BW tourney. Kolll has to represent the young zergs out there.
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DAMN
I'm going to be gone for the Ro16, Ro8, and Ro4
At least I can watch the finals live!
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I'm curious to see kolll play again.
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Gucci hwaitiiiiing!
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Good stuff! Can't believe koll is still active.
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great writeup lol. <3 hype
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Great write-up! Hyped for the games this weekend!
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I really strongly support this tournament.
May Broodwar live forever!
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On March 25 2011 08:52 vectorix108 wrote: Good stuff! Can't believe koll is still active. He's too young to be appealed by sponsors and switch to SC2 for money. So he plays the best game  I wish him the best, he was eliminated too early from TSL2 imo.
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Just noticed this tournament now, looks cool. Cheers for not just going with the SC2 hype!
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the commentaries are hilarious!!
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Foreign brood war still exists? Whoa....
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I feel like watching these games on mute.
I've watched maybe 4 or 5 of the commentaries and I am appalled by how rude the commentators are. Sayle seems respectful for the most part... but the other two commentators have consistently been total assholes who come across as completely obnoxious rather than funny. The closest thing they do to contributing to the commentary is occasionally dedicating a brief window of time for guessing which build they think a player is going for. Aside from that they spend their full energy viciously insulting the players for not having multitasking abilities and game sense equivalent to the Koreans that we are all accustomed to seeing.
Please stop using theses commentaries as a god damn ego trip.
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On March 25 2011 23:31 puppykiller wrote: I feel like watching these games on mute.
I've watched maybe 4 or 5 of the commentaries and I am appalled by how rude the commentators are. Sayle seems respectful for the most part... but the other two commentators have consistently been total assholes who come across as completely obnoxious rather than funny. The closest thing they do to contributing to the commentary is occasionally dedicating a brief window of time for guessing which build they think a player is going for. Aside from that they spend their full energy viciously insulting the players for not having multitasking abilities and game sense equivalent to the Koreans that we are all accustomed to seeing.
Please stop using theses commentaries as a god damn ego trip. I really enjoy the commentaries, it's nice to have some bashing again way too many commentators nowadays are too PC. It's a bit of fun, at the end of the day these players aren't Korean level and I think they're commentating appropriately.
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With such a bold name as puppykiller, I fail to believe you're as sensitive as your post makes you out to be. Maybe you should bump some old Day[9] threads with his commentaries and give insult to his bashing of other players. Good players ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will have the right to bash on worse players.
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On March 26 2011 08:44 Game wrote: With such a bold name as puppykiller, I fail to believe you're as sensitive as your post makes you out to be. Maybe you should bump some old Day[9] threads with his commentaries and give insult to his bashing of other players. Good players ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will have the right to bash on worse players.
No, they do not.
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On March 26 2011 08:44 Game wrote: With such a bold name as puppykiller, I fail to believe you're as sensitive as your post makes you out to be. Maybe you should bump some old Day[9] threads with his commentaries and give insult to his bashing of other players. Good players ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will have the right to bash on worse players.
Anyone has the right to bash on anyone.
Knowing the when and how divides the men from the boys.
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On March 26 2011 08:44 Game wrote: With such a bold name as puppykiller, I fail to believe you're as sensitive as your post makes you out to be. Maybe you should bump some old Day[9] threads with his commentaries and give insult to his bashing of other players. Good players ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will have the right to bash on worse players.
Ok what I mean to say is would it kill you to say something nice once in a while? Even if the players "deserve" to be trashed for not meeting your standard... the good things a player will do are often so much harder to detect than the obvious mess ups and miss micros. So as long as we are boasting a casting crew that sports a better understanding of the game than the majority of casters (sc2)... why not put it to good use rather than just lol'ing over and over again about some blatant slip up.
And day9 trashed players directly before going into extensive explanations of what blunders they were making... often illuminating less obvious mistakes in the process for the sake of educational purposes.
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Very good point. Although being nice isn't really a typical approach for me in any facet of life.
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On March 26 2011 10:32 Game wrote: Very good point. Although being nice isn't really a typical approach for me in any facet of life.
You didn't have a problem to point out a good move by semih. Or praise how good Patron is. Would just be nice if you would handle all the players more or less equal. Personally I don't have a problem with your bashing style, gives me good laughs but what felt really weird was how you only pointed out semihs good moves (when I thought it wasnt anything extraordinary).
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holy shit, Castro, Shauni and Koll is amazing news
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On March 26 2011 10:32 Game wrote: Very good point. Although being nice isn't really a typical approach for me in any facet of life.
Yeah, but this is Starcraft, just a game btw, and you could be nice once in a while in your comments in game.
Anyway, I suppose you guys won't cast all the games, so how will you pick which matches to watch?
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Yeah sometimes commentators forget why they're casting.
It's not to make yourself sound gosu. It's to provide entertainment. It's more fun when the game is hyped. It's boring and lame when you make all the players sound like they suck, which they don't.
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On March 26 2011 19:57 Arkqn wrote: Anyway, I suppose you guys won't cast all the games, so how will you pick which matches to watch?
Actually, I will cast all games, either live or from replays. There's a poll here to vote on which games you want during the live cast today: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203138¤tpage=3
Any games we don't get to will be done tomorrow during the replays cast and possibly on Monday as well if we still don't get to all of them.
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