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On February 27 2011 07:51 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 07:46 ZeroChrome wrote:On February 27 2011 07:39 Grobyc wrote:
Everything is working great for me so far, including the korean language installation, thanks! Is there really anything to do on Fish until those 10 hours are up though? I want to play some 1v1 =/ you have to play 30 games on Fish in order to ladder. Brain is the one with the 10 hour requirement. You can play team games, UMS, etc while you wait. ah thanks. I still see 1v1 games listed under melee, but not One on One. That's normal? Also, is there any way you are supposed to judge your opponent when message people for games? Just regular b.net points? I see there's not letter ranks like iCCup or Brain. Another question: can we just 1v1 a comp for 30 games?
Pretty sure any melee game counts so comps should work. i think when u ladder u spam game names to people then make one vs one or something like that. Not just host randomly like on iccup
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On February 27 2011 06:47 0mgVitaminE wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 05:31 IceCube wrote:
I got really big lag on Fish (<400). Anyone else having this problem? I'm directing this question to EU players ofc.
I figure it's coz it's korean server but I've been told by few koreans that shouldn't matter that much. Any thoughts? I haven't actually lagged in any of my games, but most have a really huge delay on them. I'm using the minilauncher as well.
are you joining games with #ll, #l1 or #l2 at the end of them? if not, the latency launcher doesn't kick in, and you'll get the delay. If you join the #l2 or similar games, you'll have trhe lan lat just like iccup and no delay problems.
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This was actually somewhat long so I put it in spoiler sections for organization. So you know my experience level I will say that I have played maybe 30 games on the Fish server with around 10 being ladder. jOypOp`` is my username if you want to find me on online.
+ Show Spoiler [Guide to Laddering on Fish] +![[image loading]](http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4164/fishladder.png) + Show Spoiler [The Ladder System] +
Fish (and Brain too) use a different ladder system than ICCup does. Instead of having letter ranks from D- up to A+ (and special CPU/E or Olympic ranks), its basically an ELO system. Think back to the old Bnet ladder if you played back then. If your number is high, you are ranked better. I once heard that 1600 Brainclan is around A- ICCup so if Fish is the same then that "goodplayer" sitting at 1714 is pretty gosu.
In the chat people are advertising or searching for games. If you saw people on ICCup spamming "D Python Msg" "C- Zerg fighting spirit" or anything similar, that is what is happening here. If you don't have the Korean Font installed it can be kind of hard to get a game quickly so I suggest you do that before trying to ladder. In the screenshot there are basically 3 spams that are good for pointing out things. A. This basically says "1207+++ Mini Launcher"
B. joolri1014's spam says "1047 ++ Mini Launcher Fighting Spirit"
C. I can't really translate exactly (I'm not korean so I'm learning this from experience mainly) BUT the way I translate it is "901 ZvZ play msg~~@". Looking at this list shows two or three important things. Most Koreans will play certain maps and only those maps (usually Fighting Spirit or python). They also like to focus train their matchups so joining a game that advertised ZvZ and picking Terran will only make you look about as silly as stork did at the OSL finals  . When you find a game that looks good, send a whisper to that person. It doesn't have to be anything complex. What I do is go /w Jungwoo- 533#L2/1 and create fighting spirit. Wait like 20-30 seconds and if he doesn't join I repeat the process. It takes 1-3 tries before I get someone into my game.
+ Show Spoiler [Some basic vocabulary] +There are some key vocabulary items you can memorize to help get games easier. For now I'm just listing what I can think of off the top of my head but I might add more later. The Races:테란 = Terran 저그 = Zerg 플토 = Protoss 프토 = Protoss 토스 = Protoss they many times also shorten race names with the first syllable so it would become 테 저 프프 (for PvP matchups etc). Other stuff만 = Only 귓 = Message 방 = Room (Game room/lobby in this context) 주세요 = (kind of like "Please" I guess?) 방주세요 = (Basically combining 방주세요 meaning "you make") 투혼 = Fighting Spirit 파이썬 = Python 한겜 = One Game ㄱㄱ / 고고 = gogo ㅈㅈ / 지지 = gg 초보 = Chobo (Noob) 고수 = Gosu Using this you can pick and pull parts to create game advertisement spams or read them if you can't host. Being unable to host though will make it 10x harder to join games. Examples (feel free to copy paste if you want): 970+++ 저그만 투혼!!~ 943+++ 토혼 방주세요~~~ 1013++++ 파이썬 442#L2/1 875 토스 초보만!! etc. I'll let you translate them though as practice for reading this stuff. 
Everything here though is what has worked for me. It should be pretty accurate except where I said I wasn't completely sure. If anyone has questions just ask. Tired of formatting and stuff so I'll just update my post like it is now. ^_^
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태양의제국 = empire of the sun
피의능선 = blood bath
포트리스 = fortress
이카루스 = icarus
서킷/서킷브레이커 = circuit/circuit breaker
아즈텍 = aztec
named out the new maps. though most people play fighting spirit/python, you can sometimes see these names.
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On February 27 2011 11:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
태양의제국 = empire of the sun
피의능선 = blood bath
포트리스 = fortress
이카루스 = icarus
서킷/서킷브레이커 = circuit/circuit breaker
아즈텍 = aztec
named out the new maps. though most people play fighting spirit/python, you can sometimes see these names.
You can also just go to TLPD and copy paste whatever name you need from there as it lists the korean.
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On February 27 2011 11:19 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 11:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
태양의제국 = empire of the sun
피의능선 = blood bath
포트리스 = fortress
이카루스 = icarus
서킷/서킷브레이커 = circuit/circuit breaker
아즈텍 = aztec
named out the new maps. though most people play fighting spirit/python, you can sometimes see these names. You can also just go to TLPD and copy paste whatever name you need from there as it lists the korean.
Yep thats why I only listed python and fighting spirit. They are the most commonly played maps by far.
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Getting insta-dropped on fish
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have you got mini installed properly?
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피의능선 is actually 'bloody ridge' =/
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Lol yeah.
Playing some Bloodbath would be awesome though.
on a side note, Fishserver just went down for what I assume is maintenance. It has been lagging randomly today (20000+ ping for no reason).
Dunno when it will be back up but Brain ICCup and Fish are all down right now and it makes me sad.
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So now Fish is down, too. The only server I can connect to at the moment is Mapzine. Does anyone know anything about Mapzine? Is the level of play there high? How do you play ladder games, and do you have to do anything first to get to play ladder?
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Imagine if the Korean servers are all down and all of them people play on iCCup when its back on 
50k on iCCup, that will be amazing. Argh! Why is Fish down at the only time I'm free for this week!?
Any news on the Fish server on what's up?
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On February 27 2011 21:56 Black[CAT] wrote:Imagine if the Korean servers are all down and all of them people play on iCCup when its back on 50k on iCCup, that will be amazing. Argh! Why is Fish down at the only time I'm free for this week!? Any news on the Fish server on what's up?
Come to garena bro
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I can't connect to Fish after installing the MiniLauncher, does anyone know how to remedy this? x_x
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Sorry for flooding the forum guys but do I have to be on a cord, or can I play on wireless?
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why should the server care if u are wireless or not, also fish is down, learn to read...
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From SCcrooked:
The messages on iccup are regular daily maintenances and the others that show a clan name are for the Fish Starleague. The regular maintenance is done everyday to make sure everyone online is active and to update the AH everyday so they do not have to have long maitenances like ICCUP. The maitenances only last an hour or two.
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On February 27 2011 09:46 SnowFantasy wrote:This was actually somewhat long so I put it in spoiler sections for organization. So you know my experience level I will say that I have played maybe 30 games on the Fish server with around 10 being ladder. jOypOp`` is my username if you want to find me on online. + Show Spoiler [Guide to Laddering on Fish] ++ Show Spoiler [The Ladder System] +
Fish (and Brain too) use a different ladder system than ICCup does. Instead of having letter ranks from D- up to A+ (and special CPU/E or Olympic ranks), its basically an ELO system. Think back to the old Bnet ladder if you played back then. If your number is high, you are ranked better. I once heard that 1600 Brainclan is around A- ICCup so if Fish is the same then that "goodplayer" sitting at 1714 is pretty gosu.
In the chat people are advertising or searching for games. If you saw people on ICCup spamming "D Python Msg" "C- Zerg fighting spirit" or anything similar, that is what is happening here. If you don't have the Korean Font installed it can be kind of hard to get a game quickly so I suggest you do that before trying to ladder. In the screenshot there are basically 3 spams that are good for pointing out things. A. This basically says "1207+++ Mini Launcher"
B. joolri1014's spam says "1047 ++ Mini Launcher Fighting Spirit"
C. I can't really translate exactly (I'm not korean so I'm learning this from experience mainly) BUT the way I translate it is "901 ZvZ play msg~~@". Looking at this list shows two or three important things. Most Koreans will play certain maps and only those maps (usually Fighting Spirit or python). They also like to focus train their matchups so joining a game that advertised ZvZ and picking Terran will only make you look about as silly as stork did at the OSL finals . When you find a game that looks good, send a whisper to that person. It doesn't have to be anything complex. What I do is go /w Jungwoo- 533#L2/1 and create fighting spirit. Wait like 20-30 seconds and if he doesn't join I repeat the process. It takes 1-3 tries before I get someone into my game. There are some key vocabulary items you can memorize to help get games easier. For now I'm just listing what I can think of off the top of my head but I might add more later. The Races:테란 = Terran 저그 = Zerg 플토 = Protoss 프토 = Protoss 토스 = Protoss they many times also shorten race names with the first syllable so it would become 테 저 프프 (for PvP matchups etc). Other stuff만 = Only 귓 = Message 방 = Room (Game room/lobby in this context) 주세요 = (kind of like "Please" I guess?) 방주세요 = (Basically combining 방주세요 meaning "you make") 투혼 = Fighting Spirit 파이썬 = Python 한겜 = One Game ㄱㄱ / 고고 = gogo ㅈㅈ / 지지 = gg 초보 = Chobo (Noob) 고수 = Gosu Using this you can pick and pull parts to create game advertisement spams or read them if you can't host. Being unable to host though will make it 10x harder to join games. Examples (feel free to copy paste if you want): 970+++ 저그만 투혼!!~ 943+++ 토혼 방주세요~~~ 1013++++ 파이썬 442#L2/1 875 토스 초보만!! etc. I'll let you translate them though as practice for reading this stuff. Everything here though is what has worked for me. It should be pretty accurate except where I said I wasn't completely sure. If anyone has questions just ask. Tired of formatting and stuff so I'll just update my post like it is now. ^_^
This is amazing, thank you man!
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EPT![[image loading]](http://img839.imageshack.us/i/fishladder.png/)
