EPT[Trans]Learn to watch ZvZ by Shark Part1. - Page 2
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
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-Frog-
United States514 Posts
On February 16 2011 07:06 Random_0 wrote: Am I ignorant? How can use of the larvae be different if the build order is the same? he's talking about how a player uses their larvae after they've thrown down their pool/hatch/gas. both of us can go 12 hatch but you could make 6 lings when your pool finishes and i could make 3 drones. | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
Thank you Shark for shedding some light on us  . I have liked his commentary, even though I can't understand him lol | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On February 16 2011 07:06 Random_0 wrote: Am I ignorant? How can use of the larvae be different if the build order is the same? Consider what he said about the overlords. Let's pretend that the map is Benzene and you 12pooled. Your opponent has also 12pooled but he has hidden ovie to make you worried/think he went 9speed/9lair etc. When your pool pops, you are going to be using all larva on lings and even pulling 2 drones to send to nat to help defend what you think is coming (also taking a guy off gas and going speed first). Meanwhile, he has been droning the whole time and probably went lair first. (also, remember just how long the rush distance are on the map) There's other stuff too but this should help give basic idea. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
As a matter of fact, one of my favorite games of all time is a ZvZ (no, it's not a Hive tech game): Calm vs Effort in Matchpoint | ||
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
On February 16 2011 06:02 jpak wrote: WHO SAID ZvZ IS BORING?! What jpak said. Though I'm afraid the final will turn out like the Bacchus OSL 2009, where  Jaedong just stomped right over YellOw[ArnC] in like 30 minutes. Hydra just seems like such a ZvZ BEAST right now that only Jaedong really can rival it and he is out of the picture now.But still, Shark is awesome. Really great that he's reaching out and explaining ZvZ. It is just so difficult to see anything but BO wins and mutaling micro in the matchup if you don't know what to look for. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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OmniscientSC2
United States713 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On February 16 2011 08:12 OmniscientSC2 wrote: I love playing ZvZ so much, and playing it is awesome. I just dislike people who view it as ling/muta :X grr ninja edit LOL hydra stomping is always fun to watch <3 moreso if i can understand zvz go shark! | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
ZvZ is easily the best mirror and a very fun matchup to play and watch. Thanks for translating. | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
After watching Hydra vs. Jaedong's Bo5 games, they completely changed my mindset of thinking that ZvZs were snorefests to intense micro and mind games. I'm glad that I finally have my eyes opened to the true fun of ZvZ matchups, and hope that I can enjoy them more in the future. | ||
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
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amethyst
United States98 Posts
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
I remember him from Hyungjoon becomes a Progamer :D | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
I really like the matchup before even reading this, so it's just nice to get even more details to look for. | ||
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