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[Interview] SPL SKT vs Oz Winners

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themonkyguy
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 21:01:51
December 28 2010 17:11 GMT
#1
Haven't seen this one up yet so I'll ninja it.

Winners: SKT


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(T)Fantasy & (P)Bisu

- Thoughts on the last match of R2?
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= My initial goal was to have 8 wins in each round, but it seems like I could only get 4 wins instead, so I should really try to win more in SWL. I was playing well at the start of R2 so I thought getting 8 wins will be easy, but then suddenly I fell into a losing streak, and my plans were ruined. I will work even harder in SWL and surpass my goal.
▲ (P)Bisu= R2 results weren't good, but I'm still pretty glad that we won the last match. We've only just finished R2 so things aren't as crucial yet. I feel that SWL is the true beginning and so I will do my best.

- You met (Z)Jaedong in the first set, was it expected?
▲ (P)Bisu= I expected Jaedong to come out to a degree, but when I really did have to play him it was quite scary. He is an exceptional player, and it seemed like he came prepared for me. However I won, it was great.

- Why did you find (Z)Jaedong scary?
▲ (P)Bisu= Although I win on broadcasted games, I still lose alot during practice. I think Jaedong is the best zerg, so I was abit scared.

- How did the game go?
▲ (P)Bisu= I bought time with my zealots, by the second time I damaged him the game was basically in the bag. Once I took down 9oclock with sair-DT I was well ahead.

- You did a ceremony after you won.
▲ (P)Bisu= Since I beat a really strong player I was overjoyed and did it. Now that I think about it it was very embarrassing (laugh). I was so happy and couldn't help myself.

- You defeated the (P)Death God.
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= I didn't even know about the proxy buildings until the game was over. I also didn't know he had carriers and scanned it really late. From that point on I started to prepare for it and used the timing window to attack.

- You ended your TvP losing streak today.
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= Whenever I start to think that I have recovered my competitiveness, I would then start to lose. I won't be satisfied with my win today and I must work harder. I lost alot recently, so the win today aren't worth much to be happy about, I need to win more.

- Thoughts on R2?
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= The most memorable were the games against (T)XellOs and the bunker rush during the game against (T)Baby, (T)XellOs' unit positioning skill was superb. I suddenly started to fall into a losing streak and dragged the team down, and I feel very sorry for that. I will work even harder in SWL to get a winning streak.
▲ (P)Bisu= Ending my losing streak is the most memorable, losing in the match against STX was very regretful.

- Although the teams are going to have a break, you probably won't get any due to individual leagues.
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= I have OSL matches on Friday, so I won't get a break. Although the other teams are going to be on break too, players who are still willing to practice with me should contact me. Ah, nobody is probably going to give me phone calls now (laugh). Well I guess I could contact them instead. I will stay in the team house and practice.
▲ (P)Bisu= I have matches on the 30th, so I have to do my best to advance. The break will have to wait.

- OSL is going to be another team-kill.
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= It's a team-kill and everyone is on break, so practice will be extremely difficult. I hope zergs from other teams can help me abit. I will work hard to advance to the long awaited Ro4.

- You'll be meeting the 'Hurricane' again in MSL, who recently shown signs of slowing down.
▲ (P)Bisu= Playing against (Z)Shine again should be very interesting. I will do my absolute best to prepare. Recently Shine's momentum has died down abit, I feel like maybe my chance has arrived.

- Anything else you want to say?
▲ (T)By.Fantasy= It was a shame that (T)Ssak hyung lost, usually whenever he wins the team would win, and when he loses the team would also lose. Hopefully next time he'll win with the team again. Also right now all of my friends are going to the military one by one, there was one who went recently, I was going make a call but I was too busy and forgot. I'm really sorry about that and I hope he can return safely.
▲ (P)Bisu= I want to thank (Z)Hyuk hyung, (P)SoO and 임홍규 for helping me practice. Many many things have happened this year, and I hope everyone can forget all the negative things, and have a happy new year.

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(Z)s2 & (P)BeSt

- Thoughts on winning for the team?
▲ (Z)s2= Winning in the last game of the year made me very happy. We ended the year in a good note and we should be able to play even better next year.
▲ (P)BeSt= I was very happy to win the last game of the round for my team with my own hand. We are ranked first now, and well will work even harder next year to maintain our top position.

- How did th games go today?
▲ (Z)s2= I scouted a faster spire with my lings and I was behind. So I made spores and used 3 mutas to harass my opponent's defenseless main base with the intention to kill drones, it seemed to have worked very well.

- What's the reason for not expanding after you've taken the lead?
▲ (Z)s2= I didn't have alot of drones, so even if I did expand I wouldn't be able to mine gas and would lose the initiative. So I just put a hatch in base and as long as I can kill some drones during the muta fights I will win.

- You let zerglings in through your simcity during early game.
▲ (P)BeSt= During the map testing phase I heard that this map cannot be walled, and it really is true. I hope I can think of something after I watch the game today (laugh).

- Talk abit about your game.
▲ (P)BeSt= My opponent was very aggressive during in early game and it was fairly annoying. Also his mutalisk play had me in the back foot in mid game and I was in danger at one stage. But after I defended the mutas I did my best to think positively and stopped being rash.

- Did you ever thought you are going to lose.
▲ (P)BeSt= I did thought about it. When the hydras started rolling in I thought I'm going to lose, but maybe due to the terrain, all the reaver shots were very effective, I got lucky and I won. The mutas were eliminated and his unit composition was broken. I made the right decisions today and I did my best.

- The team will be on break tomorrow, what will you do?
▲ (Z)s2= First I want to have a rest. But since we have alot of players in individual leagues I might have to act depending on the situation. I have to pay a visit to my family, even if I have to go back to the team immediately after. Maybe because it's the end of the year, I'm starting to really miss my parents and my relatives (laugh) I am their only son, so I have to be with them during the new year. However even if I'm at home I will still help my teammates with practice. Though they are already very good players, I believe they can win with just their skills alone. That is not to say I don't want to help them.
▲ (P)BeSt= I don't have any plans at the moment, I might go home as well. Ever since SPL started I haven't been back even once, so I'll have to make a visit. My mother is sick so she better go to the doctor soon. You won't have a happy new year if you have back problems. (laugh)

- Thoughts on R2?
▲ (Z)s2= We didn't start well, the problem seems to be our zerg line and I wanted to work extra hard. That's in the pass now, and we are back to a winning streak. I hope we can create another 10+ winstreak record.
▲ (P)BeSt= During the early periods of R2 I fell into a losing streak, all of our team's losses seem to be my responsibility. Fortunately my desire to win appears to have gotten stronger right before SWL, I will work harder in SWL and perform more actively.

- Anything else you want to say?
▲ (Z)s2= (P)SoO and 2 trainees helped me with practice so I want to thank them. Also, something happened during practice and it made me worry, but (Z)Hyuk hyung talked me out of it and it lead to my win today, I want to thank him. Further more, I hope the players who lost today won't feel too bad about themselves, I hope everyone can end the year in a positive note.
▲ (P)BeSt= During the new year holiday accident rate tends to increase, I hope everyone won't get into any after they had few drinks. Also, if people will keep supporting us in the new year, we will repay them with good results.

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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 28 2010 17:14 GMT
#2
Man Jaedong did not play so well apparently. Still need to watch the VODs.
Thanks for the translation!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 28 2010 17:24 GMT
#3
On December 29 2010 02:14 flamewheel wrote:
Man Jaedong did not play so well apparently. Still need to watch the VODs.
Thanks for the translation!


Bisu roflstomped him, literally. Also thanks for the translation!
ggaemo fan
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 28 2010 17:25 GMT
#4
Thanks for translating!! Stoked about WL coming up
By.Echo
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore7 Posts
December 28 2010 17:27 GMT
#5
Hmm I need to watch the VODs too... should be pretty good.
Flash ftw
Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
December 28 2010 17:28 GMT
#6
Thanks alot, I didn't get to see the Bisu Dong game, needa go watch that now.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 17:30:43
December 28 2010 17:30 GMT
#7
Bisu practices with Jaedong? And you wonder why they have best PvZ and ZvP respectively even though they practiced with the worst Zergs and Protosses in the scene? Of course they CAN'T practice with trash only.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
December 28 2010 17:36 GMT
#8
Jaedong's strategic choice was retarded (sadly, this becomes a trend in his latest games =(( ). He wasn't really "playing bad" or anything, but this build order really had lost him this game imho. He shouldn't ever have gone to this build vs Bisu.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
December 28 2010 17:38 GMT
#9
where can u watch this vods? jd vs bisu is always amazing and bisu won that makes it even better
InnoVation Fighting!!!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
December 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#10
On December 29 2010 02:30 chisuri wrote:
Bisu practices with Jaedong? And you wonder why they have best PvZ and ZvP respectively even though they practiced with the worst Zergs and Protosses in the scene? Of course they CAN'T practice with trash only.

Are you sure they practice? Maybe he loses against his own team.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
December 28 2010 17:40 GMT
#11
Bisu ~ so good
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 28 2010 17:41 GMT
#12
Wanted more comments on Ssak's game vs Perfectman!!! Hilarious if you haven't watched it yet!
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 28 2010 17:56 GMT
#13
Hyuk seems to be a really important man behind the scenes, he always gets many credits O.O

Thx for translation.

wat
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 18:04:33
December 28 2010 18:03 GMT
#14
On December 29 2010 02:39 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 02:30 chisuri wrote:
Bisu practices with Jaedong? And you wonder why they have best PvZ and ZvP respectively even though they practiced with the worst Zergs and Protosses in the scene? Of course they CAN'T practice with trash only.

Are you sure they practice? Maybe he loses against his own team.


Bisu mentioned practicing with Jaedong in the DES inteview with Stork. I don't know if it's a regular occurence, though.

DES= Do you have confidence to break the reign of Leesang?

Stork: After the last OSL semifinals, I have the confidence that I can beat Jaedong. I very rarely have the feel for playing PvZ, but at the time I did. No matter what, I feel like I can win. But Flash seems to be harder to defeat. (laughs) No matter how perfectly I play, I still don’t have the confidence because of the current Terran dominance. I guess, Flash must be ripped of his throne first.

Bisu: I don’t have confidence against either of them. But it’s not only them, I don’t have a lot of confidence against anyone. (laughs) When Flash and Free were to play in the semifinals, I helped Flash practice. He really played very well. I’ve also helped Jaedong. It was so hard to win against him and it was so tiring. Practicing with them during the offseason has made me feel that I need to work harder.
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 18:14:04
December 28 2010 18:11 GMT
#15
On December 29 2010 02:39 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 02:30 chisuri wrote:
Bisu practices with Jaedong? And you wonder why they have best PvZ and ZvP respectively even though they practiced with the worst Zergs and Protosses in the scene? Of course they CAN'T practice with trash only.

Are you sure they practice? Maybe he loses against his own team.

plz read the interview...
ah ok I got it, you mean he meant that he won matches against Zergs but stil lost in practice with hist teammates? maybe, still Bisu did practice with Jaedong and Flash, so I prefer the other interpretation. And I think it is the proper explanation for their skills.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 28 2010 18:21 GMT
#16
On December 29 2010 03:11 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 02:39 mustaju wrote:
On December 29 2010 02:30 chisuri wrote:
Bisu practices with Jaedong? And you wonder why they have best PvZ and ZvP respectively even though they practiced with the worst Zergs and Protosses in the scene? Of course they CAN'T practice with trash only.

Are you sure they practice? Maybe he loses against his own team.

plz read the interview...

I agree with mustaju, I think he is talking about inhouse games. In the Bisu best feature bisu talked about losing in practice against zergs.

Yay best! Anytime you beat a zerg it is cause for celebration.

I'm excited for winners leauge, anyone could emerge as #1.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
December 28 2010 19:08 GMT
#17
Aah jaedong what is going on.. how could he lose, someone said about him having family/drama issues or something to that extent?
Aah thats the stuff..
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 28 2010 19:17 GMT
#18
Awww it sucks to see JD lose , although I do like s2 :3.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 28 2010 19:32 GMT
#19
On December 29 2010 04:08 xarthaz wrote:
Aah jaedong what is going on.. how could he lose, someone said about him having family/drama issues or something to that extent?


Exactly, that must be it.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 28 2010 19:38 GMT
#20
On December 29 2010 04:32 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 04:08 xarthaz wrote:
Aah jaedong what is going on.. how could he lose, someone said about him having family/drama issues or something to that extent?


Exactly, that must be it.


Yeah, everyone knows that anytime Jaedong plays poorly it's because of family drama. Or the stress of carrying his team.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
December 28 2010 19:44 GMT
#21
In practice, Bisu is a monster at PvT, while he fails at PvZ.

Yeah, this makes total sense.
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
December 28 2010 19:48 GMT
#22
You have (T)BaBy under the Zerg Symbol.
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
December 28 2010 20:05 GMT
#23
On December 29 2010 04:44 ninini wrote:
In practice, Bisu is a monster at PvT, while he fails at PvZ.

Yeah, this makes total sense.

not to mention that the T players in his team are quite talented in TvP (not so bad, actually) while the Zergs....(SKT Zergs, you REALLY need more elaborations?)
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 20:17:28
December 28 2010 20:13 GMT
#24
On December 29 2010 05:05 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 04:44 ninini wrote:
In practice, Bisu is a monster at PvT, while he fails at PvZ.

Yeah, this makes total sense.

not to mention that the T players in his team are quite talented in TvP (not so bad, actually) while the Zergs....(SKT Zergs, you REALLY need more elaborations?)


Hyuk 3-hatch-hydra-busted him every game while he was busy thinking of a fake DT/Sair build to counter the like of Jaedong lol

Edit : They should interview Bisu & Best together for the awkwardness ^^.
Khassar de Templari
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 21:29:43
December 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#25
There was a replay a while back of a Hyuk-Bisu practice game. Hyuk won, but honestly Bisu wasn't as good as he usually is and Hyuk played really well.
I think he loses in practice because the SKTZergs are still practice house bonjwas.
Bisu's hair looked dark black when he was playing JD. Looks like it was just the lighting.
But even though Bisu beat JD, I can't really be happy about this. Bisu dominance built on the death of good players is no better than the Flash dominance of early 2010.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 21:29:29
December 28 2010 21:29 GMT
#26
whoops double post
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 28 2010 22:02 GMT
#27
Well this is a good little confidence boost before Bisu meets up with Shine. If he beats Shine he can go on having surmounted a huge obstacle. If he loses he might lose all his mojo again for awhile.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
December 28 2010 23:25 GMT
#28
bisu's always been better at the matchup than jaedong, it's just jaedong is better than bisu so they're always about even odds against each other
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 29 2010 01:44 GMT
#29
On December 29 2010 08:25 traced wrote:
bisu's always been better at the matchup than jaedong, it's just jaedong is better than bisu so they're always about even odds against each other

Not really sure what you mean. It doesn't matter how you do elsewhere, only in that MU. And Jaedong's been better at times, and Bisu's been better at times. It's always close because they're both damn good at the MU.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 29 2010 01:45 GMT
#30
Wonder why the questions weren't as harsh as they usually are towards Fantasy lol
Writerptrk
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
December 29 2010 06:28 GMT
#31
bisu, to me, always seemed to have a better grasp on the matchup, he always seems to know how to harass, what unit combinations to use, different openings, timings, things unique to the matchup. jaedong...i dunno, sometimes he can just really look silly or get fooled like this game, and most of the time his zvp feels just like brute force domination through his pure technical skill. so i guess whereas bisu can play the matchup better, jaedong equalizes it through sheer talent
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 29 2010 07:35 GMT
#32
Bisu keeping PvZ an art form <3
boomer hands
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 29 2010 07:40 GMT
#33
On December 29 2010 10:45 ArvickHero wrote:
Wonder why the questions weren't as harsh as they usually are towards Fantasy lol

lol yea

i was expecting sth like "you were on a losing streak, thought?" or "your poor performance burdened the team a lot, thought?"

lol
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 29 2010 09:05 GMT
#34
On December 29 2010 16:40 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 10:45 ArvickHero wrote:
Wonder why the questions weren't as harsh as they usually are towards Fantasy lol

lol yea

i was expecting sth like "you were on a losing streak, thought?" or "your poor performance burdened the team a lot, thought?"

lol

I thought that would be a surefire question they'd ask, at the very least. But I guess they were feeling sorry for the guy lol
Writerptrk
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
December 29 2010 09:44 GMT
#35
Thanks for the translations.

Once again Hyuk's contribution to the team's success is highlighted. Seems like he was a good choice for Captain.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9083 Posts
December 29 2010 16:40 GMT
#36
thx for sub
i'm still depressed for my boy JD
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 29 2010 17:52 GMT
#37
lol, jaedong was so off that game. Grats to Bisu
▲ ▲ ▲
Weeuweed
Profile Joined December 2010
112 Posts
December 30 2010 02:44 GMT
#38
Guys when is the winners league scheduled?
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 30 2010 02:56 GMT
#39
thanks for translating!
best and s2 looks really similar in the picture lol
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
December 30 2010 04:30 GMT
#40
i saw bisu win against jaedong and i was like, YES. but then i watched the game... i have to say i was disappointed.
I'm cold as iceeeee
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 30 2010 05:37 GMT
#41
On December 30 2010 13:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
i saw bisu win against jaedong and i was like, YES. but then i watched the game... i have to say i was disappointed.

I'm going to just say that bisu won the game with his scouting probe.
boomer hands
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 05:47:17
December 30 2010 05:46 GMT
#42
Thanks for translation man, I appreciate it. It brings a little more life into pro starcraft.

O and the scouting probe was outstanding
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