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DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 28 2010 11:59 GMT
#121
I highly doubt SC2 is the reason for his retirement. This retirement was far too sudden for that, he would've at least waited to get eliminated from the MSL before retiring.

However, it's still possible that he'll move on to SC2 in the future.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 28 2010 12:01 GMT
#122
On December 28 2010 20:44 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:41 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:39 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:38 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:35 Lightwip wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:31 Ryo wrote:
There will be no wildcard playoff for his spot. Perfectman will be given a win by default and the 3 players in the group will fight for 2 spots.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37901

I say MBCGame is a HERO(pun intended) for not letting Flash in.
+ Show Spoiler +
PM is still gonna lose though.


Damn you MBCgame, no wonder activision decided to sue you first.

You expect them to arrange a wildcard tournament when group F's games are less than 2 days away? Get real.


No, i expected them to give the position to a high ranked player, or do a best-of-1 among a select few or any other method. Anything but this.

Giving it to a high ranked player is incredibly biased and silly. Like I said, there is no time to arrange a play-off of any sort, even if it's Bo1. The proleague/starleague schedule is very tight as it is, they would have to push back matches to arrange any such play-off.


So you think Perfectman getting a free win is fair? Give me a break
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 28 2010 12:04 GMT
#123
On December 28 2010 21:01 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:44 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:41 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:39 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:38 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:35 Lightwip wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:31 Ryo wrote:
There will be no wildcard playoff for his spot. Perfectman will be given a win by default and the 3 players in the group will fight for 2 spots.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37901

I say MBCGame is a HERO(pun intended) for not letting Flash in.
+ Show Spoiler +
PM is still gonna lose though.


Damn you MBCgame, no wonder activision decided to sue you first.

You expect them to arrange a wildcard tournament when group F's games are less than 2 days away? Get real.


No, i expected them to give the position to a high ranked player, or do a best-of-1 among a select few or any other method. Anything but this.

Giving it to a high ranked player is incredibly biased and silly. Like I said, there is no time to arrange a play-off of any sort, even if it's Bo1. The proleague/starleague schedule is very tight as it is, they would have to push back matches to arrange any such play-off.


So you think Perfectman getting a free win is fair? Give me a break

He's getting a bye because his opponent is a noshow....how is that unfair?
everstarleague
Profile Joined December 2009
China89 Posts
December 28 2010 12:04 GMT
#124
On December 28 2010 18:00 Ryo wrote:
He hasn't even played his MSL games yet. What's going to happen to group F then?

Anyway good luck to him

Flash must survive and get the msl title
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 12:11:47
December 28 2010 12:08 GMT
#125
On December 28 2010 20:58 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:56 moopie wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:54 Scaramanga wrote:
This must be why he hasn't been playing in proleauge these days.

He played 3 days ago... and the week before that, and the week before that..

He's played every game upuntill 3 weeks ago and he missed most of the matches since then

He played vs Oz, Stars and Khan. Didn't play WeMade and STX. vs ACE and MBC KT didn't get to show the full lineups (went to 4 and 5 sets respectively), its possible he was scheduled for the later maps and it didn't get to it.

Maybe whatever personal issues came up interfered with his practice time and maybe not. Not much point in speculating about it.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
December 28 2010 12:08 GMT
#126
That's a pretty heavy loss for KT. They already kinda struggled to fill out the six slots for a bo7 format, even with spamming Flash/Stats/Violet/ForGG. Action has been under performing for them so far, too. Guess Hoejja is gonna get more playtime (you seemed cool on Oldboy - l2play), along with the one or two rookies they had (anyppi or something like that?).

I was never a huge fan of ForGG, but that's partly due to not being a big Terran fan in the first place (insert generic SKT fanboy anti-KT raving here). He made a name for himself and was consistent enough to get constant playtime. His retirement is a definite loss for BW.

It's a bit strange that he did it while he was still alive in the MSL, though. I think Effort did it right after getting eliminated from WCG. Must've had his reasons.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9532 Posts
December 28 2010 12:13 GMT
#127
On December 28 2010 21:01 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:44 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:41 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:39 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:38 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:35 Lightwip wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:31 Ryo wrote:
There will be no wildcard playoff for his spot. Perfectman will be given a win by default and the 3 players in the group will fight for 2 spots.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37901

I say MBCGame is a HERO(pun intended) for not letting Flash in.
+ Show Spoiler +
PM is still gonna lose though.


Damn you MBCgame, no wonder activision decided to sue you first.

You expect them to arrange a wildcard tournament when group F's games are less than 2 days away? Get real.


No, i expected them to give the position to a high ranked player, or do a best-of-1 among a select few or any other method. Anything but this.

Giving it to a high ranked player is incredibly biased and silly. Like I said, there is no time to arrange a play-off of any sort, even if it's Bo1. The proleague/starleague schedule is very tight as it is, they would have to push back matches to arrange any such play-off.


So you think Perfectman getting a free win is fair? Give me a break

Yeah, I think it would be most fair if they just gave MSL trophy to Flash and be done with it, right?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
December 28 2010 12:16 GMT
#128
I liked fo' gee gee
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
December 28 2010 12:21 GMT
#129
*sigh* this is way too depressing.... AND a huge blow to KT's lineup
Forgg at least could deliver around a 45~50% winrate slumping or not
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 12:23:20
December 28 2010 12:22 GMT
#130
On December 28 2010 21:01 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:44 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:41 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:39 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:38 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:35 Lightwip wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:31 Ryo wrote:
There will be no wildcard playoff for his spot. Perfectman will be given a win by default and the 3 players in the group will fight for 2 spots.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37901

I say MBCGame is a HERO(pun intended) for not letting Flash in.
+ Show Spoiler +
PM is still gonna lose though.


Damn you MBCgame, no wonder activision decided to sue you first.

You expect them to arrange a wildcard tournament when group F's games are less than 2 days away? Get real.


No, i expected them to give the position to a high ranked player, or do a best-of-1 among a select few or any other method. Anything but this.

Giving it to a high ranked player is incredibly biased and silly. Like I said, there is no time to arrange a play-off of any sort, even if it's Bo1. The proleague/starleague schedule is very tight as it is, they would have to push back matches to arrange any such play-off.


So you think Perfectman getting a free win is fair? Give me a break

In most other sports if a player pulls out of a match at the last minute, the opponent is given a walkover win. You're just sore that MBC is not rigging the MSL for Flash to return. Get over it.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 12:25:18
December 28 2010 12:22 GMT
#131
ForGG was one of the first players I was familiar with when I was new to the BW scene. He was strong enough to be second to Flash before Stats rose up. I liked his games a lot because he tends to end them with a bang, even if he fails sometimes. Really sad to see him go. Unlike Effort's retirement, there seems to be something bad that happened that forced him to retire.

I just hope the best for him in his next career.

ForGG fighting.
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 28 2010 12:24 GMT
#132
The KT's only badass Terran is gone
Hope he tries scII if he can
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
December 28 2010 12:24 GMT
#133
Btw, MVP and Guemchi also left BW due to "personal reasons"

MVP is active in SC2 and Guemchi tried to qualify for GSL3.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 28 2010 12:28 GMT
#134
^Didn't Guemchi go to India for some time?
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
December 28 2010 12:28 GMT
#135
Kt's lineup is gonna hurt because of this
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
December 28 2010 12:29 GMT
#136
Flash vs Bisu wildcard match
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 28 2010 12:41 GMT
#137
ahhhhhh what the heck

hope nothing's seriously wrong--this is way too sudden. I'll miss forgg ((
Writer
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9532 Posts
December 28 2010 12:42 GMT
#138
On December 28 2010 21:24 dukethegold wrote:
Btw, MVP and Guemchi also left BW due to "personal reasons"

MVP is active in SC2 and Guemchi tried to qualify for GSL3.

But they weren't in MSL when they left.

This is way to sudden to just go and play SC2... but I don't doubt he'll play it in future.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
December 28 2010 13:03 GMT
#139
Well, shit.
Forgg, you rule!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 13:05:00
December 28 2010 13:04 GMT
#140
On December 28 2010 21:01 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 20:44 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:41 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:39 Ryo wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:38 ace246 wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:35 Lightwip wrote:
On December 28 2010 20:31 Ryo wrote:
There will be no wildcard playoff for his spot. Perfectman will be given a win by default and the 3 players in the group will fight for 2 spots.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37901

I say MBCGame is a HERO(pun intended) for not letting Flash in.
+ Show Spoiler +
PM is still gonna lose though.


Damn you MBCgame, no wonder activision decided to sue you first.

You expect them to arrange a wildcard tournament when group F's games are less than 2 days away? Get real.


No, i expected them to give the position to a high ranked player, or do a best-of-1 among a select few or any other method. Anything but this.

Giving it to a high ranked player is incredibly biased and silly. Like I said, there is no time to arrange a play-off of any sort, even if it's Bo1. The proleague/starleague schedule is very tight as it is, they would have to push back matches to arrange any such play-off.


So you think Perfectman getting a free win is fair? Give me a break


They've done this in the past when Boxer couldn't attend the Survivor Tournament. It's the most they could have done given the short amount of time given.
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