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[Interview] SPL 2010-11 R2 Hwaseung vs KT Winners

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
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Last Edited: 2010-12-25 21:20:10
December 25 2010 08:16 GMT
#1
Jaedong: I was really shocked from being knocked out, but I'm not someone who will fall apart from something like that
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Q: Hwaseung broke their 5 game losing streak.
A: I'm really happy that I'm able to fully enjoy a victory like this. Because it's been a while since the team won, today's victory makes me a lot more happy than winning other matches. I'm also really thankful that we were able to win today, because today was Christmas day and if we had lost, it'd be really depressing. The team atmosphere is going to improve a lot more than just a normal victory, and I think we will be able to win the remaining matches in Round 2.

Q: Weren't you impacted by your loss yesterday in the Starleague?
A: The fact that I was knocked out was of course a huge shock to me. I think the people watching and the fans were really worried about me. Honestly it was really difficult for me yesterday and if I think about it, my heart still... hurts [laugh]. But it's not like I've been knocked out just once or twice, and even when I had lost when I was doing well, I've always climbed back up, and I also remember the times where I've started all the way from the bottom and won. In order to show that I'm not someone who will be impacted by this, I will be preparing even more diligently so I hope the fans won't be too worried about me. I'm really sorry to the fans. I think many of the fans were quite shocked too. If I think about that, it hurts me even more. I'm going to concentrate even more on what remains, the Proleague and the MSL, and prepare even more fiercely so I can win it all.

Q: Today's game was a Zerg match like yesterday.
A: Because it was a very important match, I didn't even think that I would be losing. Because my opponent was a complete newbie, I thought I would win. I think I'm a bit affected by my loss yesterday but I concentrated on winning and focused and I was able to play well.

Q: You must have felt responsibility as a veteran during your losing streak.
A: If you think about it, we're currently last, and we lose even though it looked like we were about to win. Because the situation led to a 5 game losing streak, I desperately wanted a win this week, because this week is the last week of round 2. I think we were able to win because of that. During that time, me and other starting players all practiced really hard but were not able to get good results, so we were all a bit hurt and really down. But Anytime gathered the players and led the team to a gung-ho [T/N: literally 'Hwaiting'] atmosphere. We were really down but because of him, we were able to come back up. And because we were able to win today, I think we will all recover our confidence and follow it up with a winning streak.

Q: The game with SK Telecom remains.
A: I think it's definitely possible that we will be able to win. Even though they're 1st, things like that don't matter. Because I've been playing a lot of Zergs quite a bit during this time, I want to play some other races. I think it'll be fun no matter who I play because SK Telecom players are solid.

Q: Any last words?
A: I want to thank the many fans who came today to the stadium and cheered for our team today. Because we won on Christmas, I'm thankful because I think today has become a really happy Christmas. Our team has earned a really precious win, but because one win is still one win, we still have a long way to go. We will continue this momentum and it'll be good if we can win so we can set up a footstep to perform well, and so I want to give it our all and win the last match too.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=37715

On December 25 2010 19:14 Navi wrote:
Yay my first shot at an interview!
Anytime: "we are step-by-step getting to a skill level where we can support Jaedong to victory"
[image loading]

Q: The team has ended its losing streak.
A: In the beginning of round 2, we had a 2 game win streak. So we thought we would do well in round 2; however, we ended up in a 5 game losing streak so the team atmosphere wasn't great. During that 5 game loss streak Jaedong only lost once, so it was especially regretful that we weren't able to back him up properly. However, we are step-by-step getting to a skill level where we can support Jaedong to victory. For the remaining rounds we will show our newly improved form.

Q: From the beginning you were able to win the game with ease.
A: I didn't mean to break the nat's bunker at first but ForGG seemed to be so caught up in his multitask he wasn't able to appropriate sufficient attention to the situation. After breaking (the bunker) the situation became very favorable. I thought that sending dark templar would be enough to end the game but after being too greedy I let the game slip into the later stages. In practice I found that late game play was hard on this map so I came up with this build as a response. As a result, my late game play was sloppy and lacking; I'll practice harder so as to not let this happen again.

Q: There was an intent to use carriers (TN: carrier feint!).
A: I was going to make carriers, but my upgrades were lacking and the opponent was using guerilla warfare effectively, so I was afraid that I would lose if I did make carriers. Although I was shaky as to whether or not I was going carriers, ForGG saw my intent as real and ended up making a lot of goliaths. Thanks to that I was able to fight handily at 9 o'clock and that led to the win. I was only confident of my victory when in the end I was able to run my units all over the place, winning various skirmishes along the way.

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 19:55 splints wrote:
Q. As a veteran, you must feel responsible for a loss
A. Honestly, I have finished last in many points of my career so I know the feeling. But a lot of other players haven't experienced it, so they can become frustrated. Even when I was with ACE, I had a positive mind set to do my best and show good games. The coaching staff are doing their best to lead the players, and the players are in turn, are practicing hard but the results haven't materialized so it was depressing. With the thought that things can change at any time, we believed we could win. Also, Jaedong's fans must have felt yesterday's loss, as they always cheered for our team loudly. Even in ACE, the members' popularity was good so we appreciated all the cheering. At Lecaf facility, 7-8 people in front often cheered. After coming back from the Army, many things have changed. I don't want to lose when so many fans are here cheering.


Q: There is the match with SK Telecom left.
A: From a long time ago, every game with SK Telecom seemed really exciting. From my Plus and Lecaf days, all I remember are defeats. I bet the score was something like 12:0 in SK's favor. That's how overwhelming facing SK Telecom was during those days. However, ever since Jaedong entered the team those losing memories have all been chased away. That's how much stronger we've gotten since. While there is still anxiety when we prepare I find newfound strength. Since we'll be playing near the end of the year I bet a lot of fans will come (TN: haha, anytime is a self-fulfilling prophecy in himself =D). I bet practice for this match will be fun.

Q: Last words.
A: This is only something that I began to notice after my return. Without fans the inspiration for matches doesn't come. It is only thanks to our fans' cheers that we strive at all to pay back our fans with hard preparation and success. I thank the fans for coming out in such numbers, and I wish you all a merry Christmas. Even though there isn't much of 2010 left, I hope what remains is a good time for you all.

Please correct my fails! I am trying my hardest to learn Korean


On December 26 2010 05:51 Navi wrote:
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Perfectman and Killer: "since I practice with the best zergs, regardless of how good the opponent is, I can play without worries against all opponents" (T/N: OH GOD THEY LOOK LIKE TWINS)

Q: Your feelings on ending the lose-streak.
Killer A: The team was on a 5 match loss streak and I was also on a 5 game loss streak. While I was losing the team was losing, so I really wanted to win. Since both streaks were cut off at the same time it feels great, and since I gave it my all it feels especially good.
Perfectman A: Since the team was last place for quite a while it was pretty depressing. Since we won like this the atmosphere has changed, and hopefully our momentum will be carried forward from now on.

Q: Your lose streaks and the team's overlapped.
Killer A: I felt responsibility and guilt. I proactively tried to avoid a loss-streak but since I got into one I felt like a failure, instead of the usual ups and downs. Since the problems came hand in hand they must be fixed.
Perfectman A: While in my 7 game loss streak I began to worry that it would become a monstrously large lose-streak like last season's (TN: okay he didn't say monstrously but you get the drift), and while I didn't let it be known, I began to feel very fearful on the inside. While a 7 game lose-streak is a lot at I think that I should just glad that its only this much (TN: lol last season).

Q (To perfectman): Your opponent, Action is known to be good against Protoss so you must have felt nervous.
Perfectman A: Looking at the big picture he did win a lot of vP. But since I think of our team's zergs as the best, and since I practice with the best zergs, regardless of how good the opponent is, I can play without worries against all opponents.

Q: Comments on the game.
Perfectman A: The opponent made mutalisks, and I was able to see this quickly and got into an advantageous position. Even if he was going for templar snipes I was able to get my templar out extremely quickly (TN: to gather energy I suppose?) and was able to cope in the end.

Q: In killer's game mutalisks ended up being quite the important unit.
Killer A: If the protoss isn't able to scout really well it isn't easy to confirm whether or not the zerg is going muta. I was aiming to transition into mutalisks and I think I used them well.

Q: While in your recent lose-streak, were there any attempts to change the team atmosphere.
Perfectman A: Recently, after the game with MBC Anytime hyung took us out to eat. While talking about this and that, it really helped out with the atmosphere.
Killer A: While not being particularly important, we did talk about what we thought were the causes for the lose-streak, and came to the realization that as long as we did good from then on we could forget about our previous failures and finished with a "hwaiting". In the end it was a big help.

Q (to perfectman): You're in the MSL again.
Perfectman A: After the match with SK Telecom I think I will practice for the MSL. I'm glad that I was able to improve both the team atmosphere and my own with this win beforehand.

Q: Your next match is against SK Telecom.
Killer A: Since they're all good players there are no particular players I want to go against. Since it is an important match for us as well we have to prepare with the thought that we will win for sure. I hope that lots of fans will come cheer for us.
Perfectman A: I will try to prepare without worrying too much about their number one standing. We will work hard to do better in round 2. If we do so, hopefully we will be able to carry our momentum forward in rounds 3 and 4 as well.

Q: Last words.
Killer A: Yesterday fans directly brought us a smoked duck directly to the practice house for good luck in today's match. It was delicious and thanks so much to the fans who brought it. Also, special thanks to sHy, Sky, Dear, and Sonkwon, all 4 of whom helped me wordlessly in helping me practice vP. I'm very thankful to them. Since I was recently in a lose-streak I felt on edge and very worried. I will not show such losing form from now on and in return ask for your cheers.
Perfectman A: I also ate the duck well, thank you very much. Also, not long ago Bee made his debut and ended up taking a lot of mouth. Viewers might not know this but when a player debuts it's very nerve-wracking. I hope he doesn't get swept away by the hate and gives it his all. Lastly, I want to thank the fans who come out to cheer, regardless of how our results may seem.

Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
December 25 2010 08:19 GMT
#2
Jaedong is happy!
Jaedong and Baby
KimchiFriedRice
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada237 Posts
December 25 2010 08:27 GMT
#3
Dong HWAITING!
Thanks for the hasty trans milkis
I will shove Kimchi up your ass and watch you writhe in pain.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 25 2010 08:31 GMT
#4
Thanks for the translation.

Jaedong =(
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
December 25 2010 08:34 GMT
#5
LoL harsh questions
1) your team didn't suck after sucking the last 5 times
2) you lost yesterday. thoughts?
3) you played a zerg, like yesterday, as in when you lost. thoughts?
4) aren't you responsible for your team's performance as a veteran?
5) you have to play SKT next. good luck

X_X
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 25 2010 08:44 GMT
#6
On December 25 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
LoL harsh questions
1) your team didn't suck after sucking the last 5 times
2) you lost yesterday. thoughts?
3) you played a zerg, like yesterday, as in when you lost. thoughts?
4) aren't you responsible for your team's performance as a veteran?
5) you have to play SKT next. good luck

X_X

LOL much funnier when worded like that xDD

I'd have to say I liked jaedong better when he had that dyed hair, suited him better
Writerptrk
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 25 2010 08:45 GMT
#7
damn right skt's solid
boomer hands
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 25 2010 08:47 GMT
#8
THANK YOU MILKIS
Reading now.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 25 2010 08:56 GMT
#9
This interview has been put onto Chinese forums (not by me) here. it's not even translated into Chinese lol, just c+p &go.
Translator:3
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
December 25 2010 09:30 GMT
#10
Heh interviewer is kinda harsh. Hope JD isn't too shaken up by the loss.

Anyone else slightly reminded of Light when looking at JD in that picture?

thanks for the translation!
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
December 25 2010 09:32 GMT
#11
Lol jd calling roo a complete newbie.
Must be nice to end their losing streak on christmas.

I kinda feel bad for kt, losing a match on christmas must suck
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 25 2010 09:38 GMT
#12
On December 25 2010 18:32 ohN wrote:
Lol jd calling roo a complete newbie.
Must be nice to end their losing streak on christmas.

I kinda feel bad for kt, losing a match on christmas must suck

I think JD means it in the sense of rookie player rather than low-skilled player
Translator:3
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 25 2010 09:40 GMT
#13
On December 25 2010 17:44 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
LoL harsh questions
1) your team didn't suck after sucking the last 5 times
2) you lost yesterday. thoughts?
3) you played a zerg, like yesterday, as in when you lost. thoughts?
4) aren't you responsible for your team's performance as a veteran?
5) you have to play SKT next. good luck

X_X

LOL much funnier when worded like that xDD

I'd have to say I liked jaedong better when he had that dyed hair, suited him better


completely agree lol

hope jaedong wins msl and stork wins osl. That would be great.

(and fantasy + stork getting silvers)
Jaedong :3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 25 2010 09:47 GMT
#14
Q: Today's game was a Zerg match like yesterday.
A: Because it was a very important match, I didn't even think that I would be losing. Because my opponent was a complete newbie, I thought I would win. I think I'm a bit affected by my loss yesterday but I concentrated on winning and focused and I was able to play well.

Two sunks.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
December 25 2010 10:13 GMT
#15
So much for getting banned from TL Milkis.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 19:44:18
December 25 2010 10:14 GMT
#16
Updated with the 4th question and response!
Updated again with a part in the last question I left out

Anytime: "we are, little by little, getting to a skill level where we can support Jaedong to victory"
[image loading]

Q: The team has ended its losing streak.
A: In the beginning of round 2, we had a 2 game win streak. So we thought we would do well in round 2; however, we ended up in a 5 game losing streak so the team atmosphere wasn't great. During that 5 game loss streak Jaedong only lost once, so it was especially regretful that we weren't able to back him up properly. However we are, little by little, getting to a skill level where we can support Jaedong to victory. For the remaining rounds we will show our newly improved form.

Q: From the beginning you were able to win the game with ease.
A: I didn't mean to break the nat's bunker at first but ForGG seemed to be so caught up in his multitask he wasn't able to appropriate sufficient attention to the situation. After breaking (the bunker) the situation became very favorable. I thought that sending dark templar would be enough to end the game but after being too greedy I let the game slip into the later stages. In practice I found that late game play was hard on this map so I came up with this build as a response. As a result, my late game play was sloppy and lacking; I'll practice harder so as to not let this happen again.

Q: There was an intent to use carriers (TN: carrier feint!).
A: I was going to make carriers, but my upgrades were lacking and the opponent was using guerilla warfare effectively, so I was afraid that I would lose if I did make carriers. Although I was shaky as to whether or not I was going carriers, ForGG saw my intent as real and ended up making a lot of goliaths. Thanks to that I was able to fight handily at 9 o'clock and that led to the win. I was only confident of my victory when in the end I was able to run my units all over the place, winning various skirmishes along the way.

Q: As a veteran, you must have felt heavy responsibility for the loss streak
A: To be honest I've had failures in Plus, and when Lecaf freshly formed we had a losing streak then too. Even in ACE I've failed, so I know the feeling well. But for many of the other players this is a first for them, so I'm afraid that they felt stagnated and frustrated. When I was in ACE, I learned to give my all for good games, and with that positive mindset I was able to lead my team into a gung-ho (T/N: literally "hwaiting", like in JD's interview) spirit. Through it all the coaching staff really tried to lead the players and the players also practiced really hard to achieve victory, but since the results came out like this everyone was upset. With the mindset that we could rise up to the challenge at any time, I think that we can do well. Jaedong's fans must have increased. While I noticed this in particular recently (TN: lolhogil) the cheers for our team are always loud. Those cheers always give us a lot of strength. (*Jaedong raises his hand* I think like that too. Whatever league I'm in, hearing fan cheers gives me lots of support and strength).
Even in ACE the members' popularity is no joke, so every time we played the loud cheers were our strength. I didn't know Hwaseung would have this many fans as well. When I was with Lecaf there were a lot of situations where there were only 6-7 people cheering, all in the front row (*Jaedong bursts out laughing*). After I returned from ACE, it's changed a lot. Whenever I play now, with this many fans cheering, I start to think that I cannot lose for their sake.
[Thank you for the translation splints!]

Q: There is the match with SK Telecom left.
A: From a long time ago, every game with SK Telecom seemed really exciting. From my Plus and Lecaf days, all I remember are defeats. I bet the score was something like 12:0 in SK's favor. That's how overwhelming facing SK Telecom was during those days. However, ever since Jaedong entered the team those losing memories have all been chased away. That's how much stronger we've gotten since. While there is still anxiety when we prepare I find newfound strength. Since we'll be playing near the end of the year I bet a lot of fans will come. I bet practice for this match will be fun.

Q: Last words.
A: This is only something that I began to notice after my return. Without fans the inspiration for matches doesn't come. It is only thanks to our fans' cheers that we strive at all to pay back our fans with hard preparation and success. I thank the fans for coming out in such numbers, and I wish you all a merry Christmas. Even though there isn't much of 2010 left, I hope what remains is a good time for you all.
A couple of days ago, I went to the eSports award ceremony, and Flash in his acceptance speech mentioned his fanclub. Ms. Lee from our fanclub seemed pretty jealous. (T/N: I'm not sure if he's actually talking about fanclubs, because I always thought사무국 meant something like committee, if somebody could confirm me on that that'd be great). We'll do good next year so she can be happy instead next year. Lastly, Hwaseung hwaiting! (kind of like a korean fist pump saying; saying "hwaiting" after your team name is like, "GO X!" X being your team's name).
Hey! Listen!
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
December 25 2010 10:22 GMT
#17
Good job Navi! Very informative translation.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
December 25 2010 10:32 GMT
#18
Thanks for the translation Milkis & Navi. I've been looking forward to a Hwaseung interview for what seems like an eternity!!

All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
splints
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada85 Posts
December 25 2010 10:55 GMT
#19
My 2:30am attempt at translating...

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Q 연패하면서 고참으로써 책임감도 느꼈을 것 같다.
A 사실 나는 플러스 시절에도 꼴지를 해봤고, 르까프 갓 창단 때도 연패하면서 꼴찌 해봤고, 공군에서도 꼴찌를 많이 겪어봐서 이런 경우를 잘 안다. 하지만 다른 선수들은 이런 게 처음이라 잘 몰라서 너무 침체돼 있고 좌절을 많이 하더라. 나는 공군에 있을 때도 최선을 다하고 보여주는 경기를 하자는 긍정적인 마인드를 가졌고, 그래서 화이팅할 수 있었다. 다만 코칭스태프도 정말 열심히 선수들을 지도하고 선수들도 열심히 연습하는데 성적이 이렇게 안 나오니까 그 부분이 속상했다. 언제든지 올라갈 수 있다는 생각은 가지고 있으니 잘할 수 있다고 생각한다. 그리고 요즘에 느끼지만 (이)제동이 팬이 그새 많이 늘었는지 항상 우리팀 응원소리가 크다. 힘이 많이 된다(손을 번쩍 들며 끼어든 이제동=나도 그렇게 생각한다. 어떤 리그를 하든 팬들 응원소리가 커서 정말 큰 힘이 된다).
공군에서도 멤버들 인기가 장난이 아니라 할 때마다 우렁찬 응원소리가 힘이 됐다. 화승도 이렇게까지 팬이 많을줄 몰랐다. 예전에 르까프 시절에는 6~7명이 앞에서 응원하는 그런 경우가 허다했는데(이 대목에서 옆에 있던 이제동이 웃음을 터뜨렸다) 군대 갔다오니 많이 달라져있었다. 경기 할때마다 이렇게 많은 팬들이 응원하는데 지면 안되겠다는 생각이 바짝 든다.

Q. As a veteran, you must feel responsible for a loss
A. Honestly, I have finished last in many points of my career so I know the feeling. But a lot of other players haven't experienced it, so they can become frustrated. Even when I was with ACE, I had a positive mind set to do my best and show good games. The coaching staff are doing their best to lead the players, and the players are in turn, are practicing hard but the results haven't materialized so it was depressing. With the thought that things can change at any time, we believed we could win. Also, Jaedong's fans must have felt yesterday's loss, as they always cheered for our team loudly. Even in ACE, the members' popularity was good so we appreciated all the cheering. At 르까프 (T/n: don't know what that means) facility, 7-8 people in front often cheered. After coming back from the Army, many things have changed. I don't want to lose when so many fans are here cheering.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 25 2010 10:59 GMT
#20
On December 25 2010 19:55 splints wrote:
My 2:30am attempt at translating...

+ Show Spoiler +

Q 연패하면서 고참으로써 책임감도 느꼈을 것 같다.
A 사실 나는 플러스 시절에도 꼴지를 해봤고, 르까프 갓 창단 때도 연패하면서 꼴찌 해봤고, 공군에서도 꼴찌를 많이 겪어봐서 이런 경우를 잘 안다. 하지만 다른 선수들은 이런 게 처음이라 잘 몰라서 너무 침체돼 있고 좌절을 많이 하더라. 나는 공군에 있을 때도 최선을 다하고 보여주는 경기를 하자는 긍정적인 마인드를 가졌고, 그래서 화이팅할 수 있었다. 다만 코칭스태프도 정말 열심히 선수들을 지도하고 선수들도 열심히 연습하는데 성적이 이렇게 안 나오니까 그 부분이 속상했다. 언제든지 올라갈 수 있다는 생각은 가지고 있으니 잘할 수 있다고 생각한다. 그리고 요즘에 느끼지만 (이)제동이 팬이 그새 많이 늘었는지 항상 우리팀 응원소리가 크다. 힘이 많이 된다(손을 번쩍 들며 끼어든 이제동=나도 그렇게 생각한다. 어떤 리그를 하든 팬들 응원소리가 커서 정말 큰 힘이 된다).
공군에서도 멤버들 인기가 장난이 아니라 할 때마다 우렁찬 응원소리가 힘이 됐다. 화승도 이렇게까지 팬이 많을줄 몰랐다. 예전에 르까프 시절에는 6~7명이 앞에서 응원하는 그런 경우가 허다했는데(이 대목에서 옆에 있던 이제동이 웃음을 터뜨렸다) 군대 갔다오니 많이 달라져있었다. 경기 할때마다 이렇게 많은 팬들이 응원하는데 지면 안되겠다는 생각이 바짝 든다.

Q. As a veteran, you must feel responsible for a loss
A. Honestly, I have finished last in many points of my career so I know the feeling. But a lot of other players haven't experienced it, so they can become frustrated. Even when I was with ACE, I had a positive mind set to do my best and show good games. The coaching staff are doing their best to lead the players, and the players are in turn, are practicing hard but the results haven't materialized so it was depressing. With the thought that things can change at any time, we believed we could win. Also, Jaedong's fans must have felt yesterday's loss, as they always cheered for our team loudly. Even in ACE, the members' popularity was good so we appreciated all the cheering. At 르까프 (T/n: don't know what that means) facility, 7-8 people in front often cheered. After coming back from the Army, many things have changed. I don't want to lose when so many fans are here cheering.



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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 25 2010 10:59 GMT
#21
On December 25 2010 19:55 splints wrote:
My 2:30am attempt at translating...

+ Show Spoiler +

Q 연패하면서 고참으로써 책임감도 느꼈을 것 같다.
A 사실 나는 플러스 시절에도 꼴지를 해봤고, 르까프 갓 창단 때도 연패하면서 꼴찌 해봤고, 공군에서도 꼴찌를 많이 겪어봐서 이런 경우를 잘 안다. 하지만 다른 선수들은 이런 게 처음이라 잘 몰라서 너무 침체돼 있고 좌절을 많이 하더라. 나는 공군에 있을 때도 최선을 다하고 보여주는 경기를 하자는 긍정적인 마인드를 가졌고, 그래서 화이팅할 수 있었다. 다만 코칭스태프도 정말 열심히 선수들을 지도하고 선수들도 열심히 연습하는데 성적이 이렇게 안 나오니까 그 부분이 속상했다. 언제든지 올라갈 수 있다는 생각은 가지고 있으니 잘할 수 있다고 생각한다. 그리고 요즘에 느끼지만 (이)제동이 팬이 그새 많이 늘었는지 항상 우리팀 응원소리가 크다. 힘이 많이 된다(손을 번쩍 들며 끼어든 이제동=나도 그렇게 생각한다. 어떤 리그를 하든 팬들 응원소리가 커서 정말 큰 힘이 된다).
공군에서도 멤버들 인기가 장난이 아니라 할 때마다 우렁찬 응원소리가 힘이 됐다. 화승도 이렇게까지 팬이 많을줄 몰랐다. 예전에 르까프 시절에는 6~7명이 앞에서 응원하는 그런 경우가 허다했는데(이 대목에서 옆에 있던 이제동이 웃음을 터뜨렸다) 군대 갔다오니 많이 달라져있었다. 경기 할때마다 이렇게 많은 팬들이 응원하는데 지면 안되겠다는 생각이 바짝 든다.

Q. As a veteran, you must feel responsible for a loss
A. Honestly, I have finished last in many points of my career so I know the feeling. But a lot of other players haven't experienced it, so they can become frustrated. Even when I was with ACE, I had a positive mind set to do my best and show good games. The coaching staff are doing their best to lead the players, and the players are in turn, are practicing hard but the results haven't materialized so it was depressing. With the thought that things can change at any time, we believed we could win. Also, Jaedong's fans must have felt yesterday's loss, as they always cheered for our team loudly. Even in ACE, the members' popularity was good so we appreciated all the cheering. At 르까프 (T/n: don't know what that means) facility, 7-8 people in front often cheered. After coming back from the Army, many things have changed. I don't want to lose when so many fans are here cheering.

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Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
December 25 2010 11:14 GMT
#22
Hopefully this win will breathe some life into Oz. Jaedong really deserves better than being in the last place team.
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kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 25 2010 11:26 GMT
#23
On December 25 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:

5) you have to play SKT next. good luck

X_X


SKT is pretty much SKTBisu right now which is at the same level of Jaedong OZ so OZ will just have the same chance of winning (like they won against KTFlash today).

The current situation of PL is really weird with the sucking of SKT,KT,OZ and the rise of Ace.
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Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 25 2010 11:37 GMT
#24
On December 25 2010 17:16 Milkis wrote:

Q: The game with SK Telecom remains.
A: I think it's definitely possible that we will be able to win. Even though they're 1st, things like that don't matter. Because I've been playing a lot of Zergs quite a bit during this time, I want to play some other races. I think it'll be fun no matter who I play because SK Telecom players are solid.






Basically saying, "i don't want to play their scrub zergs, give me fantasy / bisu, i want to murder them"
wat
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 25 2010 12:45 GMT
#25
Wow, thanks for the translations Milkis and Navi! Looks like both Jaedong and Anytime both had a mouthful to say, and it's good to see that Jaedong isn't too upset about getting knocked out, and that he's playing it cool.

I kinda pity Hogil though... I don't even want to imagine a situation in which he accidentally bumps into a bunch of JD fangirls one day......
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
December 25 2010 14:17 GMT
#26
On December 25 2010 20:26 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:

5) you have to play SKT next. good luck

X_X


SKT is pretty much SKTBisu right now which is at the same level of Jaedong OZ so OZ will just have the same chance of winning (like they won against KTFlash today).

The current situation of PL is really weird with the sucking of SKT,KT,OZ and the rise of Ace.


calling SKT SKTBisu is far too much flattery for Bisu, the team doesn't suck THAT much, and Bisu isn't THAT good.

On December 25 2010 21:45 Spica wrote:
Wow, thanks for the translations Milkis and Navi! Looks like both Jaedong and Anytime both had a mouthful to say, and it's good to see that Jaedong isn't too upset about getting knocked out, and that he's playing it cool.

I kinda pity Hogil though... I don't even want to imagine a situation in which he accidentally bumps into a bunch of JD fangirls one day......


Hogil.... LOL apparently he shares 7% resemblance with Rain! HAHA
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 25 2010 14:56 GMT
#27
That's how overwhelming facing SK Telecom was during those days. However, ever since Jaedong entered the team those losing memories have all been chased away. That's how much stronger we've gotten since.


Oz is so lucky to have Jaedong lol
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
December 25 2010 15:00 GMT
#28
JAEDONG/ANYTIME/HIYA/PERFECTMAN/KILLER/LOMO/BACKHO/PRINCESS, etc FIGHTING!!! Hwaseung Oz is such an awesome team.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 25 2010 15:05 GMT
#29
That's how overwhelming facing SK Telecom was during those days. However, ever since Jaedong entered the team those losing memories have all been chased away. That's how much stronger we've gotten since.


Oz is so lucky to have Jaedong lol
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 25 2010 16:08 GMT
#30
TY Milkis :3
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4722 Posts
December 25 2010 16:25 GMT
#31
Anytime is a boss.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
December 25 2010 16:26 GMT
#32
Thanks for the Translation!
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smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
December 25 2010 17:19 GMT
#33
thanks for translating, really liked anytime answers
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
December 25 2010 17:43 GMT
#34
We need Perfectman's interview
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 25 2010 19:18 GMT
#35
There isn't much special stuff on Pman/Killer interviews except the fact that some fan gave them a nice smoked duck and the team had a good supper...
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 25 2010 19:30 GMT
#36
Will work on perfectman, then killer
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 25 2010 19:42 GMT
#37
lol JD in the prelims!!
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
December 25 2010 19:46 GMT
#38
<3 Anytime, never leave us again
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HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 19:48:34
December 25 2010 19:47 GMT
#39
On December 25 2010 20:26 kamikami wrote:
SKT is pretty much SKTBisu right now which is at the same level of Jaedong OZ so OZ will just have the same chance of winning (like they won against KTFlash today).


Rather than SKT1Bisu, I'd rather associate their team more with Fantasy, given how consistent he has been for the team in the SPL; Bisu's great and all but I feel a lot more confident seeing Fantasy in the Ace Matches than Bisu in most match-ups, especially in vT and vP. To be brutally honest, I only have confidence in Bisu if he's facing a Zerg and thanks to his consistency to lose to players like Shine (which I mean by aggressive players and not "bad" players as Shine is actually decent nowadays) that confidence only goes so far.

OT: I have a lot of confidence in Anytime's ability to help shape up OZ back to at least a decent team; I think his blunt attitude is what OZ needs in order to improve.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 25 2010 20:33 GMT
#40
On December 26 2010 04:47 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 20:26 kamikami wrote:
SKT is pretty much SKTBisu right now which is at the same level of Jaedong OZ so OZ will just have the same chance of winning (like they won against KTFlash today).


Rather than SKT1Bisu, I'd rather associate their team more with Fantasy, given how consistent he has been for the team in the SPL; Bisu's great and all but I feel a lot more confident seeing Fantasy in the Ace Matches than Bisu in most match-ups, especially in vT and vP.


When he's not doing his strange builds or trying to be cute, i could agree with this.
But fantasy isn't the most consistent player either, given first his streak and now his recently performances : |.

wat
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 25 2010 20:38 GMT
#41
On December 26 2010 04:47 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 20:26 kamikami wrote:
SKT is pretty much SKTBisu right now which is at the same level of Jaedong OZ so OZ will just have the same chance of winning (like they won against KTFlash today).


Rather than SKT1Bisu, I'd rather associate their team more with Fantasy, given how consistent he has been for the team in the SPL; Bisu's great and all but I feel a lot more confident seeing Fantasy in the Ace Matches than Bisu in most match-ups, especially in vT and vP. To be brutally honest, I only have confidence in Bisu if he's facing a Zerg and thanks to his consistency to lose to players like Shine (which I mean by aggressive players and not "bad" players as Shine is actually decent nowadays) that confidence only goes so far.

OT: I have a lot of confidence in Anytime's ability to help shape up OZ back to at least a decent team; I think his blunt attitude is what OZ needs in order to improve.

Bisu is actually probably the better ace when he's on top of his game. When he is, he has a 50:50 chance against an in-form JD, Flash, or Stork, while Fantasy has more like 30-40% chance against them. Except for in 09-10, Bisu has always been SKT's ace, and I think it's gonna be that way again.
Not to mention Bisu has better gamesense than Fantasy -.-
Although his performance does affect the team performance quite a bit.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 20:53:03
December 25 2010 20:51 GMT
#42
[image loading]

Perfectman and Killer: "since I practice with the best zergs, regardless of how good the opponent is, I can play without worries against all opponents" (T/N: OH GOD THEY LOOK LIKE TWINS)

Q: Your feelings on ending the lose-streak.
Killer A: The team was on a 5 match loss streak and I was also on a 5 game loss streak. While I was losing the team was losing, so I really wanted to win. Since both streaks were cut off at the same time it feels great, and since I gave it my all it feels especially good.
Perfectman A: Since the team was last place for quite a while it was pretty depressing. Since we won like this the atmosphere has changed, and hopefully our momentum will be carried forward from now on.

Q: Your lose streaks and the team's overlapped.
Killer A: I felt responsibility and guilt. I proactively tried to avoid a loss-streak but since I got into one I felt like a failure, instead of the usual ups and downs. Since the problems came hand in hand they must be fixed.
Perfectman A: While in my 7 game loss streak I began to worry that it would become a monstrously large lose-streak like last season's (TN: okay he didn't say monstrously but you get the drift), and while I didn't let it be known, I began to feel very fearful on the inside. While a 7 game lose-streak is a lot at I think that I should just glad that its only this much (TN: lol last season).

Q (To perfectman): Your opponent, Action is known to be good against Protoss so you must have felt nervous.
Perfectman A: Looking at the big picture he did win a lot of vP. But since I think of our team's zergs as the best, and since I practice with the best zergs, regardless of how good the opponent is, I can play without worries against all opponents.

Q: Comments on the game.
Perfectman A: The opponent made mutalisks, and I was able to see this quickly and got into an advantageous position. Even if he was going for templar snipes I was able to get my templar out extremely quickly (TN: to gather energy I suppose?) and was able to cope in the end.

Q: In killer's game mutalisks ended up being quite the important unit.
Killer A: If the protoss isn't able to scout really well it isn't easy to confirm whether or not the zerg is going muta. I was aiming to transition into mutalisks and I think I used them well.

Q: While in your recent lose-streak, were there any attempts to change the team atmosphere.
Perfectman A: Recently, after the game with MBC Anytime hyung took us out to eat. While talking about this and that, it really helped out with the atmosphere.
Killer A: While not being particularly important, we did talk about what we thought were the causes for the lose-streak, and came to the realization that as long as we did good from then on we could forget about our previous failures and finished with a "hwaiting". In the end it was a big help.

Q (to perfectman): You're in the MSL again.
Perfectman A: After the match with SK Telecom I think I will practice for the MSL. I'm glad that I was able to improve both the team atmosphere and my own with this win beforehand.

Q: Your next match is against SK Telecom.
Killer A: Since they're all good players there are no particular players I want to go against. Since it is an important match for us as well we have to prepare with the thought that we will win for sure. I hope that lots of fans will come cheer for us.
Perfectman A: I will try to prepare without worrying too much about their number one standing. We will work hard to do better in round 2. If we do so, hopefully we will be able to carry our momentum forward in rounds 3 and 4 as well.

Q: Last words.
Killer A: Yesterday fans directly brought us a smoked duck directly to the practice house for good luck in today's match. It was delicious and thanks so much to the fans who brought it. Also, special thanks to sHy, Sky, Dear, and Sonkwon, all 4 of whom helped me wordlessly in helping me practice vP. I'm very thankful to them. Since I was recently in a lose-streak I felt on edge and very worried. I will not show such losing form from now on and in return ask for your cheers.
Perfectman A: I also ate the duck well, thank you very much. Also, not long ago Bee made his debut and ended up taking a lot of mouth. Viewers might not know this but when a player debuts it's very nerve-wracking. I hope he doesn't get swept away by the hate and gives it his all. Lastly, I want to thank the fans who come out to cheer, regardless of how our results may seem.
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telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
December 25 2010 21:01 GMT
#43
Thanks for the interview Navi!
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 21:32:25
December 25 2010 21:32 GMT
#44
I added some stuff to the anytime translation, if you could edit that in that'd be great milkis

yw!
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SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
December 25 2010 21:35 GMT
#45
Perfectman channeling upmagic in that picture D:
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
December 25 2010 22:29 GMT
#46
Lol at all the "yeah our atmosphere would've sucked it we'd lost" because KT didn't get an interview, did they.

hahah Wtf did killer do with his hair. I do not approve...

Regardless, I'm very proud of OZ. Heres to taking one off SKT!
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
December 25 2010 22:36 GMT
#47
On December 26 2010 06:35 SplashbackFerret wrote:
Perfectman channeling upmagic in that picture D:

I can't stop laughing at this picture of him.

[image loading]

Also, Killer going to be 14-3 vs T1's current roster after Tuesday~
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Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
December 27 2010 15:05 GMT
#48
On December 25 2010 17:16 Milkis wrote:
Anytime: "we are step-by-step getting to a skill level where we can support Jaedong to victory"


Well, since 2 rounds of Winners league are comming up, they can just practise supporting JD by clapping and giving high-fives.

send out JD in the first set all the time and watch the show (and pray?)^
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
December 27 2010 15:17 GMT
#49
I wonder if they make anytime share a bunk with the other kids?
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