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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 23:06:15
December 23 2010 23:05 GMT
#201
On December 24 2010 03:32 xarthaz wrote:
Bisu is far away the best still. When you look at his macro and micro, they are the best. unfortunately he has a bit mind problems, crippling confidence in indiv league


kal's got better micro than bisu. it's very hard to differentiate one's self in terms of macro nowadays though. everyone is really close (aka bisu's macro is not any better than any other top protoss).

bisu is better at adapting his playstyle usually, but kal has had the most impressive control of any protoss for at least the last year.
Free Palestine
iw-darins888
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada32 Posts
December 23 2010 23:46 GMT
#202
GO ANYTIME GO!!!
Macro= large Micro=small
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 24 2010 01:32 GMT
#203
Stork, Kal then Bisu, so much fanboy bias in this poll -.-
Yhamm is the god of predictions
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 24 2010 01:36 GMT
#204
On December 24 2010 10:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Stork, Kal then Bisu, so much fanboy bias in this poll -.-

don't expect anyone else to win a poll if you decide to put Bisu on it ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 24 2010 01:59 GMT
#205
Well deserved by Kal, the poor kid ran into Flash or Jaedong freaking 16 times lol. And he almost drowned!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 24 2010 02:26 GMT
#206
On December 24 2010 10:36 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 10:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Stork, Kal then Bisu, so much fanboy bias in this poll -.-

don't expect anyone else to win a poll if you decide to put Bisu on it ...

Well if it's Jaedong then it should be very close...
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 24 2010 02:27 GMT
#207
It's sad that only Protoss has even remote competition
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 24 2010 04:05 GMT
#208
Hey people how about a "The official Bisu fan club" thread where we discuss his next opponents, his last match, his current performance... and express the hate on Shine ?
Khassar de Templari
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 24 2010 12:57 GMT
#209
On December 24 2010 13:05 kamikami wrote:
Hey people how about a "The official Bisu fan club" thread where we discuss his next opponents, his last match, his current performance... and express the hate on Shine ?

Lightwip this is your task!

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 24 2010 13:08 GMT
#210
On December 23 2010 16:26 overt wrote:
I feel like Bisu has just as many anti-fans as he has fans on TeamLiquid.

Regardless, as of right now, Bisu is in my opinion the strongest Protoss. But if we're considering all of 2010? Probably Stork.

How did Kal win this? lol

this.
every JD-fanboy seems to hate Bisu here.
Stork is 2010, but bisu is still overall better.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 24 2010 13:09 GMT
#211
On December 24 2010 13:05 kamikami wrote:
Hey people how about a "The official Bisu fan club" thread where we discuss his next opponents, his last match, his current performance... and express the hate on Shine ?

I smell a ban trap... honey laced...
stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
December 24 2010 14:12 GMT
#212
Storker McStorkerson AKA Storkly O'Storking with Bisu in a close 2nd.
twitter.com/stolensheeps
Johnnybegood2night
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany31 Posts
December 24 2010 20:27 GMT
#213
Bisu > Other : )

But need to say "Stork" is also very good.
Speedling rush > All Terrans :D
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 24 2010 20:46 GMT
#214
On December 23 2010 21:13 baubo wrote:
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On December 23 2010 20:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 23 2010 16:26 overt wrote:
How did Kal win this? lol


Because unlike a certain SKT Protoss, Kal is still in both leagues, and has been for most of the year.


Well, the award's mainly for individual play. If you go with that, then Kal was by far the best.

Proleague though, he's only slightly above average. 9-7 this season. 28-27 last season extending to beginning of the year.

Personally that's why I voted Stork, because I think proleague does count some too given how much players care for it.


2010 Proleague records:

Kal: 37-34
Bisu: 32-21
free: 30-19
Stork: 30-21

2010 Individual records:

Kal: 37-25, WCG Korea bronze
Bisu: 31-16, no medals
free: 30-23, no medals
Stork: 24-14, no medals

Total:
Kal: 74-59
Bisu: 63-37
free: 60-42
Stork: 54-35

While I voted for Stork in the poll here, I gotta say it looks like Kal deserves it, even with his Proleague problems. He's got the only medal, and while he didn't give the strongest league performance of the year (that would be free's OSL run) the game numbers make it pretty clear he was more consistently going deep into leagues. Plus he has kept a winning PL record so far, and has the most total wins by a good margin. Honestly I'm astounded by the PL record for Kal: I had no idea he had that kind of a workload - with Calm and now Bogus as potential aces on the team, to say nothing of Shuttle, I'd not have thought he'd play so many games.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
wimbutler
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
December 28 2010 19:52 GMT
#215
i vote jaehoon
jaehoon the master balster ....on the march !
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 28 2010 20:00 GMT
#216
Kal > Stork >>> Free >>>>>>>>>>>> Bisu
bisu really had nothing of note in 2010 except being removed from the team's lineup for nearly a month, it's absolutely ridiculous that people would put him as best this year. was he the best in the past? yes. but not this year. also, he's not a bonjwa by any definition...
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#217
In terms of individual league results, Free and Kal stand out as better than Stork and Bisu in 2010. Stork at least made it to a semifinal. Bisu sucked it up.

Kal's proleague form has been off and on all year and it shows in his stats. Free and Stork are at least comparable to Bisu in their proleague stats; Kal is nowhere close.

I voted for Free. I think he was the most solid overall this year and I think he tends to get under appreciated. It hasn't really been a good season for him this season, but for the rest of the year he was just more solid.

My #2 choice would probably be Stork, but he spent most of the year floundering. It wasn't until towards the end of last season that he started to really seriously gain any momentum. This season of course he is positively on fire, but he spent most of the year failing to do anything in individual leagues.

Kal is kind of a wildcard in all this.

Bisu would be my last choice. 2010 has been his worst year on record. I don't know what kind of rampant fanboyism it takes to think he's actually been the best Protoss player this year.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
December 28 2010 21:48 GMT
#218
On December 25 2010 05:46 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 21:13 baubo wrote:
On December 23 2010 20:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 23 2010 16:26 overt wrote:
How did Kal win this? lol


Because unlike a certain SKT Protoss, Kal is still in both leagues, and has been for most of the year.


Well, the award's mainly for individual play. If you go with that, then Kal was by far the best.

Proleague though, he's only slightly above average. 9-7 this season. 28-27 last season extending to beginning of the year.

Personally that's why I voted Stork, because I think proleague does count some too given how much players care for it.


2010 Proleague records:

Kal: 37-34
Bisu: 32-21
free: 30-19
Stork: 30-21

2010 Individual records:

Kal: 37-25, WCG Korea bronze
Bisu: 31-16, no medals
free: 30-23, no medals
Stork: 24-14, no medals

Total:
Kal: 74-59
Bisu: 63-37
free: 60-42
Stork: 54-35

While I voted for Stork in the poll here, I gotta say it looks like Kal deserves it, even with his Proleague problems. He's got the only medal, and while he didn't give the strongest league performance of the year (that would be free's OSL run) the game numbers make it pretty clear he was more consistently going deep into leagues. Plus he has kept a winning PL record so far, and has the most total wins by a good margin. Honestly I'm astounded by the PL record for Kal: I had no idea he had that kind of a workload - with Calm and now Bogus as potential aces on the team, to say nothing of Shuttle, I'd not have thought he'd play so many games.


Yeah but stork takes down jd and flash kinda often, and he doesnt even take this game seriously (cell phones for the win). It makes you wonder, how good would he be if january would quit trolling and he would put his galaxy tab and phone down lol
Taek Bang
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 28 2010 22:17 GMT
#219
SONG BYUN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What the hell has bisu done in individual leagues except getting knocked out in ro8 or earlier.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
December 28 2010 23:16 GMT
#220
Stork is the only Protoss player who I wouldn't put as the underdog vs Jaedong/Flash. Unfortunately, he also has the habit of losing games he shouldn't be losing.
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