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On December 15 2010 18:56 anch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 18:01 Holgerius wrote: Can you imagine the in-game BM Flash could pull off if he really tried to? :D have you not see the 10 base vs 2 TvZ on Grand Line (iirc)? Flash counter bm that mofo. and what's with the dissing with ssak, sorry i dont watch opening ceremonies. was this against soulkey?
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Thanks for translating it all
I'm right there with Violet on telling HoeJJa to cheer up, Tempest should reflect on his play though -_-
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On December 15 2010 18:33 Ryo wrote: Flash seems to be really annoyed with some of the criticisms he's face when he lost 2 games in a row.
In any case Ssak will probably gg too early for Flash to build manner CCs.
Just 14cc in his base. Start mining his minerals.
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Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash.
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Ssak asked for it, you know.
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On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge.
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A challenger is always a challenger, so he has to say any kind of this stuff to the champion, just to make himself more confident. Well when a champion answers back in such a manner, this looks pretty offensive, regarding titles etc. Flash could just ignore it. Well ok, ok. My biased opinion will deceit me, but I still think Flash was influenced by the bad side of his perfectionism and God image.
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Haha awesome interviews, good job on translating so fast!
Looking forward to some manner CCs!
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On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer.
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On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash.
Okay, Flash didn't give himself the title "god" (IMO I personally think calling anyone "god" at anything stupid). Why blame him for something he did not claim? If you are talking about his attitude, did you read the WHOLE interview or any of his other interview? (IMO) He shows the typical Asian culture respect for his fellow mates. (Minor) Evidence? Look at his response to the previous question concerning oov's comment. Furthermore, if your classmate/friend/family (remember they live together) got bad-mannered by another person, what is the normal reaction?
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thank you guys for translating
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On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer.
Source this please? Because I read the same interview and I never got the impression. He also comment on how he always need more practice even when he is winning at a higher rate then the norm (that "god" for you). How is he showing off anything?
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On December 15 2010 20:25 jackknight wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer. Source this please? Because I read the same interview and I never got the impression. He also comment on how he always need more practice even when he is winning at a higher rate then the norm (that "god" for you). How is he showing off anything? dunno I think it was wfbrood, Im afraid I wont find it, it just stuck into my memory, like an impression, or maybe the author's impression was negative so I took it without digging deeper as Flash always eventually was a rival to all my favorite players, so I became the one who is ok, when he wins, but happy when he looses, still I thoroughly enjoy his games. I wish I could reread it, just for a check.
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On December 15 2010 18:52 purpose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote:On December 15 2010 18:05 purpose wrote: Wow how can that be baller or even remotly cool?
Flash is a superior player, Sska has no chance in hell and both him and Flash knows this. Its not hard for Flash to do such a statement, its plain easy for him to do it.
Man if Flash would say "The next game I play, I am gonna win!" people get like " omg what a baller, Flash is so cool, amazing fun cool epic mega amazing thing to say, wow wow wow he is just so fucking baller....baller baller baller.....did I say baller......we need one more BALLER!!!!" It's not like Flash says stuff like this on a regular basis. In fact he's always quite modest. In this case though, a teammate of him was humiliated by Ssak (was that 4 manner CC's?), so this is his way of saying ''Don't mess with my family yo''. That is indeed a very cool thing to do. He's protecting his herd. I love the recent surge of manner CCs, scouts and consuming Ultras and shit. :D It's great entertainment and adds some spice to the scene. It might also help to keep the amount of silly gg timings away. Well its not that big of a deal that Flash step up for his teamm8, especially since he is superior nr 1 in starcraft and he go after a scrub, not really a brave thing to do. Remotly enjoyable perhaps, but OMG EPIC BALLER BALLER BALLER.......never. And I still think that the word baller should be banned from tl.net. It has lost any type of meaning since its being used prettymuch in every singel post. Omg he build a probe he is so baller...omg he defended that attack he is so baller....omg he is expanding he is so baller.....omg he said he was happy to win the game, he is freaking baller.....omg he typed out gg after being crushed but thats still so epic fucking baller!
The word baller was mentioned one time in the entire thread, not counting your posts
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On December 15 2010 20:31 letian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:25 jackknight wrote:On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer. Source this please? Because I read the same interview and I never got the impression. He also comment on how he always need more practice even when he is winning at a higher rate then the norm (that "god" for you). How is he showing off anything? dunno I think it was wfbrood, Im afraid I wont find it, it just stuck into my memory, like an impression, or maybe the author's impression was negative so I took it without digging deeper as Flash always eventually was a rival to all my favorite players, so I became the one who is ok, when he wins, but happy when he looses, still I thoroughly enjoy his games. I wish I could reread it, just for a check.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125429 <-- This one?
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On December 15 2010 20:25 jackknight wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer. Source this please? Because I read the same interview and I never got the impression. He also comment on how he always need more practice even when he is winning at a higher rate then the norm (that "god" for you). How is he showing off anything?
letian is exaggerating it a bit (or is just wording it that way; for example, I'm pretty sure Flash has never said anything about how perfect he is), but he has said something along the lines of 'I have reached enlightenment' / 'I feel like I have solved sc' on record before. It was on the OGN 'Talk behind the scenes (뒷담화)', and it was a kind of controversial statement.
As for the best ever champion thing, of course he's said that. That's his goal as a progamer and he's well on his way to achieving it. Nothing wrong with having a goal.
edit: Ninja'ed.
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On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer. when he won bacchus 08 he became cocky and then he fell. He spent the whole last year talking about his flaws and the last time i remember him doing trashtalking was before PL finals where he trashtalked Fantasy (which he said later was just for the entertainment).
But the last time he was cocky and arrogant he was 16, people at that age usually let things get to their head
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"On a related note, I think player Choi Ho Seon (Ssak) is showing a level of confidence slightly disproportionate to his achievements so far, so if he doesn't win against me tomorrow, he may end up seeing a command center in his base."
ROFL. Ssak won't sleep tonight.
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Flash haterzzz imo. He is ballin' off the charts. It's free speech PURPOSE deaaaaal with it. Who cares if Flash's fans want to call him what he is, a starcraft perfection baller.
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On December 15 2010 20:45 shucklesors wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:31 letian wrote:On December 15 2010 20:25 jackknight wrote:On December 15 2010 20:21 letian wrote:On December 15 2010 20:16 BeaTeR wrote:On December 15 2010 19:43 letian wrote: Well done Action! well done. Wooohuh Flash is being really badasss about SSak, yeah, when ppl start calling somebody a god, he sooner or later starts believing in it, never liked Flash. lol, are you serious? flash is very humble. It's just ssak's cockiness forced flash to look for a revenge. I still remember an interview or smth, where Flash used to show off how perfect he is, and how he has solved sc mystery, so now he will be the best ever champion. Doesn't look like a humble person to me. He is as humble as any other young korean progamer. Source this please? Because I read the same interview and I never got the impression. He also comment on how he always need more practice even when he is winning at a higher rate then the norm (that "god" for you). How is he showing off anything? dunno I think it was wfbrood, Im afraid I wont find it, it just stuck into my memory, like an impression, or maybe the author's impression was negative so I took it without digging deeper as Flash always eventually was a rival to all my favorite players, so I became the one who is ok, when he wins, but happy when he looses, still I thoroughly enjoy his games. I wish I could reread it, just for a check. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125429 <-- This one? yeah, this one, " transcended above all "
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