EPTPL 10-11 R1 Rosters - Page 7
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 16 2010 01:08 SuperArc wrote: Snow's PvZ is sixth player level? lol Watch all of Snow's games and come back here and say his PvP (which is not sixth player level) is better than his PvZ. So...you're agreeing with me that Snow is primarly a PvT sniper with potential in his other matchups? Because that's what I said. I still think his PvP will prove more consistent than his PvZ, his recent games have just had a massive delineation in the skill levels he played against betwixt the two MUs. On October 16 2010 01:06 Lightwip wrote: Honestly, in that game against Tempest s2 played like shit, which I realized after watching it over again. Soo played a pretty mediocre game against Snow, but I'd honestly say Snow is better simply because he's a dream league bonjwa and Tempest has yet to prove himself against zergs of a decent level. Although Snow hasn't shown himself to be any good at PvP yet. Erm uh Tempest beat Hogil recently and knocked Zero out of Gom3. Knocked Jaedong out of Gom2(He also beat Soulkey recently but Soulkey is largely untested). He is by no means consistent but the guy has taken some pretty great games off some pretty great ZvPers.That consistency problem is why I rate him so low despite me thinking highly of him. | ||
pathy
Taiwan619 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 15 2010 16:53 GTR wrote: Samsung KHAN  Stork, JangBi,  greatWoongjin Stars free,  Really, ZerOWemade FOX Pure, Midas, BaBy Hwaseung OZ Jaedong BackHo, HiyA, Lomohite ENTUS Snow, Movie, Leta, sKyHigh, KT Rolster Violet Stats, fOrGG, Flash, ActionMBCgame HERO Sea, Light, HyuNSK Telecom T1 Hyuk Bisu, BeSt Fantasy, KwanroSTX Soul Kal, Shuttle, FrOzen, Calm | ||
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Borknagarush
176 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
He was the closest thing MBC had to a decent Protoss -_- | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On October 16 2010 02:21 matjlav wrote: Wait wut? Pusan's a coach now? He was the closest thing MBC had to a decent Protoss -_- Pretty sure he went to the army. On October 16 2010 01:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Erm uh Tempest beat Hogil recently and knocked Zero out of Gom3. Knocked Jaedong out of Gom2(He also beat Soulkey recently but Soulkey is largely untested). He is by no means consistent but the guy has taken some pretty great games off some pretty great ZvPers.That consistency problem is why I rate him so low despite me thinking highly of him. Honestly, considering Hogil isn't some amazing player and that most of his impressive wins were over a year ago, he's really untested. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's bad, but he hasn't really played enough for me to judge. Until he shows something impressive, I'd really consider him a pretty mediocre player. He hasn't shown any particularly amazing gameplay recently either. I'd put him about on the level of s2: capable, although he has yet to show consistency. | ||
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renzy
Canada781 Posts
SKT AND Samsung has brilliant protoss lines. And to those of you who says Bisu still suck, he was prepping for 3 leagues, and although he did get knocked out of the MSL and OSL, his record in the playoffs was amazing. Yes Stats beat him, but considering how even Stats himself said the strategy was taylored for Bisu, AND Stat B.O. raped him in the playoffs since Bisu went 2 gate DTs, I would say Bisu still has it. He might not be at full strength, but he is certainly above the level of Stats and Violet, and.......Tempest...................=.= | ||
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By.Pato
Costa Rica52 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 16 2010 02:25 Lightwip wrote: Pretty sure he went to the army. Honestly, considering Hogil isn't some amazing player and that most of his impressive wins were over a year ago, he's really untested. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's bad, but he hasn't really played enough for me to judge. Until he shows something impressive, I'd really consider him a pretty mediocre player. He hasn't shown any particularly amazing gameplay recently either. I'd put him about on the level of s2: capable, although he has yet to show consistency. Hogil has been vaunted as the best ZvP sniper around for awhile. It wasn't a mistake I included him. But the games were awhile ago. My point was Tempest isn't totally untested against tough competition in his entirety. People are acting like he's a new player or something when he's actually pretty seasoned. On October 16 2010 02:27 renzy wrote: Seriously, KT fanboys. Stats, Violet and Tempest is the more successful protoss lineup this seaon?!?!?!? SERIOUSLY? I mean Stats and Violet are decent, but seriously?!?!? Tempest?!?!?!?!? Really?!?!?! SKT AND Samsung has brilliant protoss lines. And to those of you who says Bisu still suck, he was prepping for 3 leagues, and although he did get knocked out of the MSL and OSL, his record in the playoffs was amazing. Yes Stats beat him, but considering how even Stats himself said the strategy was taylored for Bisu, AND Stat B.O. raped him in the playoffs since Bisu went 2 gate DTs, I would say Bisu still has it. He might not be at full strength, but he is certainly above the level of Stats and Violet, and.......Tempest...................=.= You know, Violet said something pretty insightful right before the finals. A lot of people hyped the SKT protosses, saying they were the best, but he proudly pointed out that KT tosses (Mostly him and Stats but Tempest had a good record too) were the best protoss lineup of the season. Not only did they win more games, they beat out their SKT competition more often than not, most recently in both R5 and the Finals. Stats is better than both Bisu and Best. I won't even flinch in saying that. Maybe not at their respective peaks, but they've shown very little of those peaks in recent times, whereas Stats is just getting better. | ||
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Zyferous
United States270 Posts
Interesting that tossgirl is playing though..I hope she does well | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On October 16 2010 02:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:You know, Violet said something pretty insightful right before the finals. A lot of people hyped the SKT protosses, saying they were the best, but he proudly pointed out that KT tosses (Mostly him and Stats but Tempest had a good record too) were the best protoss lineup of the season. Not only did they win more games, they beat out their SKT competition more often than not, most recently in both R5 and the Finals. Stats is better than both Bisu and Best. I won't even flinch in saying that. Maybe not at their respective peaks, but they've shown very little of those peaks in recent times, whereas Stats is just getting better. Looking at their records, I can really say that I think that their only GOOD matchup is PvP. Admittedly, they did win quite a bit against the SKT tosses in R5, but a good number of those are simply BO advantages(the one in the finals was exploiting 2 gate DT) rather than more impressive play. But their other matchups are quite weak. However far they strayed from their peaks, I can tell you that Bisu sure as hell wouldn't lose a series to Hydra and that Best is much better at PvT than both of them. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Assymptotic
United States552 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On October 16 2010 03:15 Slow Motion wrote: Bo7 and many teams got deeper after merging/drafting. I think Oz is gonna be completely screwed this season. Oz is still better off than Khan. Even if FBH hadn't gone to ACE yet, Jaedong OZ > StorKhan. Jangbi has been very mediocre for a long while now, and great is nothing to write home about. I hope Khan's recruits can produce results fast or they're really hosed. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On October 16 2010 02:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stats is better than both Bisu and Best. I won't even flinch in saying that. Maybe not at their respective peaks, but they've shown very little of those peaks in recent times, whereas Stats is just getting better. One has to be delusional to say that Stats is better than the greatest protoss of all times, or the monster macro protoss. Stats is a really solid, good protoss player, but he doesn't match Bisu or Best yet. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On October 16 2010 03:16 Assymptotic wrote: CJ Entus with a weak zerg line-up. I never thought I'd see the day. I fail to see where this assumption is coming from, Hydra and Hogil are far from weak. | ||
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Marl
United States694 Posts
Oz (JD, hiya, and backho FTW) Woongin (free, zero, and really FTW) SKT (BEESUIT) ACE (I gotta see FBH do the salute and high five Much) Khan (I wish Stork had some back up) Fox (Hope BaBy will own some more) MBC (Sea is cool... everyone else though bleh) hite (kind of like snow...) STX (Kal dissapoints too much and calm is a clam) KT (Action + Flash = instant hate) | ||
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