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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
September 23 2010 00:53 GMT
#201
On September 23 2010 09:15 Xiphos wrote:still stand on my arguement of Flash being invincible to anyone BUT Stork

dream on!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 01:02:43
September 23 2010 01:01 GMT
#202
On September 23 2010 09:15 Xiphos wrote:
Well tbh its really Jaedong who got nervous (I think he is somewhat depressed). Flash mindfucked him pretty bad. I still stand on my arguement of Flash being invincible to anyone BUT Stork


therefore JD gets some credit for all-in Stork on osl game 5?
and not enough credit for Stork not taking both of them down? lol
crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
September 23 2010 02:29 GMT
#203
Jaedong has not been playing his best since the Nate MSL finals. He actually owned Flash in that finals. Games 1,2 and 3 Flash went for the same build, losing games 1 and 3, and won game 2 with a massive comeback only after JD threw the game away with fail guardians. The 8 rax in game 4 was not Flash saying "fuck it" after the power outage it was him trying a new build since his 1raxCC wasn't doing well. Flash then practiced hard prepared great builds and destroyed JD 3-0 in the Hana Datoo MSL finals and since then Jaedong has played pretty terrible against Flash no doubt partly due to mental problems when facing him and has been easy picking. If Flash didn't get to play Jaedong in the finals over and over and had to vs varied opponents for example say Jaedong in the Nate MSL, Effort in the OSL, Fantasy in the next MSL final, a top form Bisu in another MSL and a top form Stork in the other OSL final...I can't see him winning as much as he did.
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
September 23 2010 02:44 GMT
#204
No. Being scared to go 1rax CC instead going to mass 14CCs is not what i would call invincible. He looks good on terran favoured maps I will look forward to a change in the map pool to something a little like bias.
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crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
September 23 2010 03:47 GMT
#205
On September 23 2010 11:44 Sworn wrote:
No. Being scared to go 1rax CC instead going to mass 14CCs is not what i would call invincible

If it wins...that's all that matters
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 23 2010 03:58 GMT
#206
I want to see Flash vs. the Bisu that shamed him in that one Bo3 about a year ago with Medusa in the map pool. Sure that map sucked for Terran (relatively speaking), but it was still a great game.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 23 2010 04:12 GMT
#207
I want Best to battle it out with Flash ..
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
September 23 2010 04:55 GMT
#208
id say hes as invincible as he could ever get in this game.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 23 2010 05:12 GMT
#209
On September 23 2010 12:47 crazeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:44 Sworn wrote:
No. Being scared to go 1rax CC instead going to mass 14CCs is not what i would call invincible

If it wins...that's all that matters


this

It is like saying Savior wasn't invinsible, because he was scared and was going mass 3 hatch muta into fast defiler. Damn you, people, and your retarded arguments!
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
September 23 2010 06:13 GMT
#210
Jaedong is just taking out too many possible contenders with flash and flash has throughly read through jaedong's mind. We need some underdogs to fight flash cause he won't know their mindset, but jaedong takes out too many of themT_T. Hopefully jaedong can completely change his gameplay, or flash would just keep on reading him like a book that he has read countless times
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
September 23 2010 07:22 GMT
#211
On September 23 2010 11:44 Sworn wrote:
No. Being scared to go 1rax CC instead going to mass 14CCs is not what i would call invincible. He looks good on terran favoured maps I will look forward to a change in the map pool to something a little like bias.

I would say shaking your opponent up to the point where he 4pools in two consecutive games is what I would call invincible.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 23 2010 07:34 GMT
#212
On September 23 2010 16:22 Loser777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 11:44 Sworn wrote:
No. Being scared to go 1rax CC instead going to mass 14CCs is not what i would call invincible. He looks good on terran favoured maps I will look forward to a change in the map pool to something a little like bias.

I would say shaking your opponent up to the point where he 4pools in two consecutive games is what I would call invincible.
1-1 = isn't invincible, nor desirable for Flash, especially on the two maps which he was obliged to take 2-0 by default.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
September 23 2010 14:51 GMT
#213
Flash is incredibly good, but by no means invincible, Jaedong is a very strong contendor for Flash and during almost all finals it boils right down to Jaedong vs. Flash, and the Bo5s usually always run into 4, most commonly 5 games.

Flash, no invincible, thanks to Jaedong.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 16:04:55
September 23 2010 16:02 GMT
#214
Flash seems beatable pure gameplay wise, he has lost a decent amount of straight up games to a variety of good players.

The problem is no one seems to prepare for matches quite like Flash (and whoever helps him on KT) can. I really love Flash's playstyle in BO5 series, where he's completely unafraid of taking risks because he knows they pay off in the long run. Variance says you'll have things like the Effort series where the risks don't pay off, but overall he got a nice payout with THREE CONSECUTIVE LEAGUE WINS ;o

Also, now that he's friends with JD, he seems to be in his head. God, why couldn't Stork have drawn Flash in the semis instead. Would have been sooooo fun to watch. Although, I would have predicted Flash to win with some incredible cheese :o
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