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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 08 2010 21:36 GMT
#141
hmmm. I don't think that Boxer will last long in the SC2 scene if he does move on, because he's kind of old and won't be as fast as some of the younger players. I mean chances are he will come up with a lot of new builds and strats for people to toy around with, but he's just not at the level where he can adapt with the game.

Besides, if Boxer moves to SC2, who will help fantasy alogn with oov to come up with new and entertainign strategies? TT
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TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
September 08 2010 21:37 GMT
#142
This is both exciting and terrible news. How can they leave BW? nuuuuuuu

But if they do make the transition, I will definitely be behind them and hope all the ex-BW players own every single SC2 newb.
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
September 08 2010 21:39 GMT
#143
While it certainly is a punch to the gut to have it confirmed that we are likely never to see these 3 play BW again, it sort of feels better when you realize we probably wouldn't anyway outside of the occasional promotional match or two.

Im looking forward to this. With the way Medivacs are now, and the increased viability of "cute" units like the Raven and Ghost Boxer could do terrible terrible things to his opponents in SC2. I can imagine a guy like Nada watching the level of play in the first round of the GSL and salivating at the thought of all that prize money. I liken it to when all of us D+/C- players found out that level of skill was enough to get us into Diamond divisions.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
September 08 2010 21:40 GMT
#144
My gut reaction is "dammit noooooooooo"

but honestly having these genius innovators in the SC2 scene will be really cool. As much as I love seeing these guys play BW, they don't really bring anything to the scene anymore.

but noooooooooo T_T
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:00:50
September 08 2010 21:47 GMT
#145
edit: changed my mind. don't want to argue
hi man O_O
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#146
July, the watermelon panda god of war, is my favorite player. But I hate SC2 so much.

Then Nada and Boxer...
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#147
On September 09 2010 06:40 matjlav wrote:
My gut reaction is "dammit noooooooooo"

but honestly having these genius innovators in the SC2 scene will be really cool. As much as I love seeing these guys play BW, they don't really bring anything to the scene anymore.

but noooooooooo T_T

Yea. i feel the same way. i cant say im sad because it would be sorta cool to have legends of BW in SC2
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
September 08 2010 21:52 GMT
#148
On September 09 2010 03:19 alffla wrote:
ah well. i guess they're not getting any playtime in bw anyway so might as well.

goodbye bw legends. -_-


helloooo sc2 legends! :D

this is exciting news. wonder how they'll hold up against the younger crowd.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 21:56:57
September 08 2010 21:56 GMT
#149
On September 09 2010 06:35 pronesc wrote:
Nice. Can't wait to see Boxer using some of his neat micro tricks again. Many more possibilities in SCII than in Broodwar.


Huh... don't think so.

But anyway, let's wait until it's confirmed. I'm still quite a bit skeptical about the Boxer part (as opposed to the other two). Also, silhouette pic doesn't exactly match.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:02:29
September 08 2010 22:01 GMT
#150
For those who don't understand why some might feel sad and think it's just "sc2 hatred" :
July might as well try it,cause yeah, he hasn't play decent for ages. Might be because I don't like him that much.
Nada was on a three game winning streak in PL. I'm sure he could have played some games, and even might have qualified for a league. And when him and Boxer play (for Boxer maybe only in showmatch) you can only be entertained. And this won't be the case in SC2 I feel, for many reasons, not only because the game is inferior, but also because they had a characteristic playstyle that won't transfer, and because the cheering is always huge for them (will that transfer in sc2 ? I'm not sure). It just won't feel the same. Thre won't be the same nostalgia.
And I'm really not sure they'll do that well, and they are giving up good jobs (with salaries) for something a bit more uncertain. True, if Gretech win, they might be right anyway
Well, as long as YellOw stays in bw, I don't really care that much.

This is BW.
Edit : and yeah, I'm not really sure about Boxer.
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:04:44
September 08 2010 22:03 GMT
#151
On September 09 2010 06:06 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 05:51 Saechiis wrote:
I don't think it's a bad development, players like Boxer and NaDa would really turn the Korean attention to Starcraft 2. Since the APM requirements are relatively low these players could show some great strategic play and possibly compete with the best again.

It isn't great news for BW, but as with all other games it has an expiration date. I really think SC2 can be a replacement for BW if people are open to it instead of being hardcore against anything new.


There is no reason a legendary game such as BW, as a successful e-sport, should have an "expiration date". No more than any actual sport, at least.

Should BW die, it definitely won't be because a few ex-players, no matter how renowned they are, switch to SC2, but because either 1) the fans stop showing up for actual matches or 2) BW is forcefully pushed out of the way by Gretech or whatever.

Here's to hoping it will be the former.


Not saying it should, it just happens. Problem with games is that they totally hinge on advancing technology, which means there will always be new, superior games, in terms of graphics and gameplay. The BW scene existing till this day is as big of an hommage there is in the gaming business.

Physical sports like tennis and football will always stay the same since the control you have is already optimal ^^
I think esports is pretty nice.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:05:23
September 08 2010 22:04 GMT
#152
Not sure what to think. I want sc2 to succeed, but havent been too impressed with it so far. Not to mention the Blizzard/bnet 2.0/gretech stuff. That said, I want to see what's best for these legends, and the growth of a worthy eSport game, from that sense I support this. I cant shake the uneasy feeling that it might be more from the pressure/politics of kespa/gretech squeezing people out of bw than the lure of a great new rts pulling them in...

ps: Expected July, bit surprised by Nada and very surprised by boxer. the boxer silhouette doesnt match too well if that even means anything hehe.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 08 2010 22:07 GMT
#153
I'm happy for Boxer but I wished he could make another OSL before he quit BW... oh well I guess.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
September 08 2010 22:16 GMT
#154
another nail in bw coffin? :\
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
September 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#155
nada boxer and julyzerg :O

imposible, i hope again :D
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:30:26
September 08 2010 22:29 GMT
#156
On September 09 2010 07:16 smekz wrote:
another nail in bw coffin? :\


Well they are not at the top anymore :/
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 22:31:09
September 08 2010 22:30 GMT
#157
SC2 could really use someone like Boxer to make it a good spectator sport - as it is now it's too bland and no real fun tactics involved. It's also much more suitable for old players due to less APM constraints, so I wouldn't be surprised if a large amount of players switched or just gave up on progaming. Reach, Anytime and Yellow could be potential candidates to switch since they most likely will get no playtime in their old teams, and probably poor contracts based on name-value alone.
1000 at least.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 08 2010 22:31 GMT
#158
Better not be Boxer... :/
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 08 2010 22:32 GMT
#159
Awesome would be very interested on how they do :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 08 2010 22:36 GMT
#160
WHAT IS THIS STRANGE FEELING IN MY PANTS

:D :D :D
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