Video casting made simple! - Page 4

On August 31 2010 21:07 CruisEric wrote:
is this only for videos on youtube? lets say i have a replay and i want to cast that, would i be able to use elive or do i have to record the replay and upload to youtube first? how about when they do the live streams of like MSL/OSL finals. can i enter the link of the stream into elive and cast from that?

On September 02 2010 10:27 mrdx wrote:
Very nice work

Adding an export option would make the site even more useful I think (also it won't eat up your bandwidth too much because people could upload their work elsewhere). You can add an eLive watermark on the exported videos, I think people won't mind.

On September 02 2010 10:43 MK wrote:


Once again this is not about the "watermark" or "by eLive".

This is really a core belief shared by the whole team : we want the source to be clean in order to let anyone else to do his own cast with the same data.

When someone watches a video on eLive that been casted with a video from Youtube, the number of views increases which means that even if the original video is not directly watched on Youtube, it still receives the reward (number of views).
Plus, each time someone watch a cast and click on the video, it gives you the Youtube link to the original video (and the Youtube ID is always written on eLive).
This is key because if people bring source video to the community but in return don't receive nothing, this sucks.

Imagine you upload a Korea match on Youtube, people cast on this video and export to their own account and receive all the comments, views and no one knows who brought the original one.

edit : typo

On September 02 2010 15:21 mrdx wrote:

Well, people could still honour the uploader of the original video by saying that in their commentary or description (and if for some reason someone decides to be evil and claims all the credit then eLive won't stop him anyway, he will simply use something else).

I'm just saying this from the perspective of a developer rather than a user. By not having the option to export the video, commentators will have to rely on eLive to host their works, which they might find restrictive (let's be realistic, most commentators will want to be able to upload their works on Youtube or have it backed up on their hard drive). Imagine if a web graphic tool like Picnik or Photoshop.com stops allowing you to download the final product and force you to go to their web site if you want to show it to someone.

Do not get me wrong, I'm totally blown away by eLive and its ease of use. What you have done is absolutely amazing. I just think that the lack of an export option may keep some commentators (especially the more serious ones) away from using it.

On September 03 2010 03:25 DejaVu119 wrote:
I put this in a blog already cuz i couldn't find this thread before. Anyways, I used it and wrote a little review.

Last night, I found out about a new casting tool called eLive. As advertised, it would allow commentators to cast games without downloading, uploading, or even editing the youtube and audio files we use. I think I speak for every commentator when I say that such a claim lies somewhere between the realms of intriguing and awe-inspiring (the number of programs, trials, errors, and editing nightmares that have been experienced are, well, flabbergasting).

While hopeful, I wasn't sure if it would really work as easily as the video and .pdfs claimed. I wanted to cast the OSL semifinals series between stork and jaedong; so i used the match as a test trial of eLive's beta. I got a key in like 15 minutes (thanks guys). At first, I was frustrated because the casting program wouldn't start for me. I thought "oh great, this is yet another tool that I can't use because my computer and/or internet is garbage." Turns out, it was just a beta bug that was fixed in just a few hours of the error report (talk about fast tech support).

This morning, I finally sat down to cast the games and I was EXTREMELY pleased with the system. First off, the interface is both simple and has a very familiar feel to it. The casting program takes a youtube video of a game and puts it into its player with essentially the same interface as a youtube page. You can have different videos, texts, and images and easily swap between them or keep them playing in the background. i.e. you could leave a game running and flash pictures of the players or the map during the intro. I didn't incorporate this feature, but I played around with it and it seemed very easy and viable.

When I went to cast the games I kept it very standard and simple to test out the system. One of the few things I found annoying was that when I clicked "start" to begin the cast, my video didn't also start. I had to click play on the video interface as well. Basically, it means that for a moment at the start of each video there is a blank screen. Mildly aesthetically annoying, but not a real problem. Other than that, the casting experience was very easy. Minimizing and maximizing the video or pausing and starting it again gave no problems. A very nice feature in both casting and watching is the audio controls that allow you to control the volume level of both yourself and the video (no more re-ups because I forgot to turn down the Koreans!!). Once I finished each video, I simply clicked "stop," edited some info for the VOD, and clicked "finalize." eLive does the rest. There is no editing required!! Simply cast what you see, and your viewers see what you see and hear what you say.

As it is in Beta, there are some issues of course. Most of them are aesthetic and minor/easily fixed.

Issues:

* Audio has some static that doesn't appear when recording using audacity or windows sound recorder
* Unable to edit title, description, or playlist after finalizing
* No "video response" feature as of yet
* More intricate compilation videos are probably infeasible using eLive
* Appears to only allow uploaded videos - no screen capture


Here is my profile on eLive so you can watch the games!


Later, I will try using some of the features such as incorporating text/links into VODS, drawing on screen, etc. to see how viable they are during a cast. eLive also claims to make multi-casting very easy and I will try to test that out and let everyone know how it works.

On October 08 2010 18:17 SUSUGAM wrote:
seriously, this website is pretty awesome. not only for game casting, but also dubbing over your friends, or really dubbing any youtube in general... it's quite fun and entertaining. i can see this catching on a bit. good luck with getting word out there. I do suggest you push it beyond gaming to reach more people. it'd be good for your traffic, but maybe not great for its community. just a thought.