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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#121
On July 17 2010 05:42 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 05:28 hitthat wrote:
On July 17 2010 05:18 Milkis wrote:
You may not have realized it, but this past round, Jung Myung Hoon was the best terran and best player overall in proleague, with an 8-1 record, and in addition, he's qualified to the Ro16 of both individual leagues as well. While it's always debatable which player is currently strongest in skill, there's no debate as to who is currently most reliable, with the undisputed highest win percentage in proleague R5 (not counting those one game winners, of course). And he shows now sign of stopping. Many players have stepped up their game and changed their strategies to face the former most reliable Terran, and have started to snatch an increasing number of wins from the player once thought of as unbeatable, but that's not the case with Fantasy. Despite everyone's realization that Fantasy's signature vultures and dropship play often spell doom to his opponents, others have yet to assemble a reliable counter to neutralize them. And Fantasy further ups his game during the playoffs (see: last year), with the legendary Terran Oov at his side as his coach and mentor. If there's any one player that's going to dominate these playoffs, it is Fantasy, not whoever else you might have had in mind.




how can you call Fantasy good at all after this match? This is Fantasy's game sense folks. The second something he has unprepared for hits, he's gonna crack and fall.

I love this match btw it has a shot of iloveoov calling Fantasy an idiot.

sorry but skt is going to lose to CJ tonight


If I find a one game, where JD or Flash fails like this, can I call them noobs? F.e. one game when JD forgot reaserching a consume, what costed him game?


Forgetting consume or storm isn't game sense. It's a mistake. Fantasy pushing out with those marines... that's gamesense, and Fantasy lacks it.

Sorry.



You honestly think forgetting consume in late game standard TvZ, and storm in PvZ, you know, the kind pros play every day for HOURS, is more acceptable than getting confused from a very unexpected strategy?

They are both game changing mistakes.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
July 16 2010 21:13 GMT
#122
SKT1 FTWWWWWWW
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 21:14:15
July 16 2010 21:13 GMT
#123
On July 17 2010 06:08 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 05:42 Milkis wrote:
On July 17 2010 05:28 hitthat wrote:
On July 17 2010 05:18 Milkis wrote:
You may not have realized it, but this past round, Jung Myung Hoon was the best terran and best player overall in proleague, with an 8-1 record, and in addition, he's qualified to the Ro16 of both individual leagues as well. While it's always debatable which player is currently strongest in skill, there's no debate as to who is currently most reliable, with the undisputed highest win percentage in proleague R5 (not counting those one game winners, of course). And he shows now sign of stopping. Many players have stepped up their game and changed their strategies to face the former most reliable Terran, and have started to snatch an increasing number of wins from the player once thought of as unbeatable, but that's not the case with Fantasy. Despite everyone's realization that Fantasy's signature vultures and dropship play often spell doom to his opponents, others have yet to assemble a reliable counter to neutralize them. And Fantasy further ups his game during the playoffs (see: last year), with the legendary Terran Oov at his side as his coach and mentor. If there's any one player that's going to dominate these playoffs, it is Fantasy, not whoever else you might have had in mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-XhuyBTOA

how can you call Fantasy good at all after this match? This is Fantasy's game sense folks. The second something he has unprepared for hits, he's gonna crack and fall.

I love this match btw it has a shot of iloveoov calling Fantasy an idiot.

sorry but skt is going to lose to CJ tonight


If I find a one game, where JD or Flash fails like this, can I call them noobs? F.e. one game when JD forgot reaserching a consume, what costed him game?


Forgetting consume or storm isn't game sense. It's a mistake. Fantasy pushing out with those marines... that's gamesense, and Fantasy lacks it.

Sorry.



You honestly think forgetting consume in late game standard TvZ, and storm in PvZ, you know, the kind pros play every day for HOURS, is more acceptable than getting confused from a very unexpected strategy?

They are both game changing mistakes.


They're both game changing mistakes -- but "forgetting" to research consume is completely understandable. There's many valid reasons why this may have happened and none of them relate to "gamesense" unless the player completely forgot about it (unlikely). It's more likely they pressed the wrong upgrade or just clicked it but it didnt register and they assumed.

I'm sorry that everyone assumes Fantasy to be this great player. The only reason Fantasy has any sort of substance is because he can click with some vultures and iloveoov and Boxer spends all their time thinking about builds Fantasy could use cause Fantasy is that incapable of thinking up builds. Fantasy is lucky iloveoov and Boxer lives vicariously through him, it's the only reason why they would care. But in truth, without these artificial forces seemingly making it look like Fantasy can actually play, Fantasy is nothing.

[PS: I'm just trash talking because it's fun. I don't actually believe this]
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 16 2010 21:16 GMT
#124
On July 17 2010 05:48 Grebliv wrote:

Well he must be pretty damn good in everything else then to get his results because they're not exactly bad by any means.

Well, yep,he's pretty damn good at doing what oov's telling him to do.
Game sense is the kind of stuff you need to win starleague, not to be a good player.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 16 2010 21:21 GMT
#125
Oh Milkis you should just stay in the WeMade thread!
SKT vs CJ should be a tricky match. It's a shame they have to meet so early, but at least it'll be faster than MBC vs FOX.
.-.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
July 16 2010 21:53 GMT
#126
SKT1? Meh.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
July 16 2010 22:17 GMT
#127
fuck yea skt
Nony is Bonjwa
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 22:53:23
July 16 2010 22:52 GMT
#128
hmm...i see 2 problems with this OP

1. WHERE IS OOV! /rage
2. Hyuk is the best zerg on SKT and is currently a double starleaguer! no direct mention

also whoever wins this series wins the playoffs imo its either SKT or CJ

and its gonna be SKT
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 16 2010 23:12 GMT
#129
T1 meh...I dont think they will be winning anything this year. Best, Bisu, Fantasy arent exactly reliable. And the sad day has come when Hyuk and S2 are the go to players...they have a decent shot in a sense, because of the experience and potential in their roster

For T1 the key will be teamwork, because I dont see them winning ace matches in their current form.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 16 2010 23:15 GMT
#130
Go BeSt! Go SKT!
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
July 17 2010 07:50 GMT
#131
Curse SKT for penny pinching. I never understood why they traded away Midas instead of Canata. Form is temporary, class is permanent.


I still believe.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#132
well boys. today was a slip up
bisu's back. best's back. fantasy played a hell of a game
it'll be ok
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
gorchiza
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Bulgaria200 Posts
July 17 2010 08:02 GMT
#133
SKT zergs failed once again I hoped for a zerg win today. SKT cannot expect every time the trio to score ... today is an example , fantasy lsot and the match went away....
I will shout as louder as I can for SKT (:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GORCHIZA?feature=mhee
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 17 2010 08:07 GMT
#134
Fail zergs are back again!

Seriously gonna need to step up the play in order to have any shot in the playoffs. Bisu/Fantasy/Best can only carry you so far.
God Bless
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 08:46:03
July 17 2010 08:45 GMT
#135
Damn it Hyuk stop practicing for SL for a few hours and focus on PL instead, you'll get rolled by Fantasy in MSL anyway! /ticked off at both Hyuk and Fantasy
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
July 17 2010 08:53 GMT
#136
Guess that extra practice time really didn't pay off tonight, CJ will win tomorrow as well, I guarantee it.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
July 17 2010 08:57 GMT
#137
On July 17 2010 17:53 Spyfire242 wrote:
Guess that extra practice time really didn't pay off tonight, CJ will win tomorrow as well, I guarantee it.

OGN moved group ceremony to 21 so it didn't matter
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
Rhine[time]
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada29 Posts
July 17 2010 11:02 GMT
#138
On July 16 2010 13:43 IntoTheWow wrote:
no.

Entusman #74 mr.Effort
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 17 2010 11:59 GMT
#139
Hmmm this thread is strangely silent. I wonder why...
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 17 2010 12:51 GMT
#140
poor bisu, if only his team could draw an ace match

screw cj/mbc
young ho
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