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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 19:38:32
June 14 2010 18:35 GMT
#61
On June 15 2010 01:30 motbob wrote:
I just want to note that the groups have the smallest possible number of the same races in each group. This seems really unlikely to be the product of randomly generated groups to me.

Just a rough calculation: every group has about a 2/9 chance of having one of each race, and we can apply that probability to the 11 groups that have one of each race, so the chance of the groups falling this way are about (2/9)^11, or about 0.0000065%.

I'm calling shenanigans.

It seems pretty obvious they went for race variations (1 of each race where possible), and then seeded the players of each race randomly into those slots. This way most groups would have to prepare for both races and we can avoid mirrors at this stage. These groups look great and I'm sure they'll be a lot more interesting than mirror matches.

edit: forgot to add that before randomizing the eligible candidates for each category (by race played) they likely also removed teammates from the list of potential opponents in the group.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 20:05:16
June 14 2010 18:47 GMT
#62
Snow is SOOOOO overhyped it's ridiculous - he will not make it past Ro36 and will be forever forgotten (except by CJ fanboys)
Bisu and Baby will make Ro8 only to be eliminated
Killer will advance over Skyhigh AND Stork (Skyhigh was eliminated from EVER 2009 by none other than ggaemo 2-0 in Ro36).
Jaedong will win this OSL.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 14 2010 18:56 GMT
#63
HYPE HYPE HYPE!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
June 14 2010 18:57 GMT
#64
Flash, Stats or Hyuk please!
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
June 14 2010 19:47 GMT
#65
According to the schedule, they're now putting the Bo3's for groups on separate days, but on the other hand they're putting three Bo3's on the same day, instead of 2 Bo3s when they used to only do one group at a time... If none of that was well written, please consult this handy-dandy calendar:

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2010&calendar_month=6#day_16
... Knowmsayin'?
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
June 14 2010 20:04 GMT
#66
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 14 2010 20:04 GMT
#67
Really Snow Zero

That is one intense group
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
June 14 2010 20:07 GMT
#68
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
June 14 2010 20:09 GMT
#69
Am I the only one who feels the OSL is very balanced racewise? Almost every group has one of each T, Z, P.

Hiya and Baby look to have the easiest groups to pass through to Ro16. Toughest groups are A, D, and K. Should produce some great games!
platinum? more like leaf
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
June 14 2010 20:13 GMT
#70
On June 15 2010 05:07 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.


Like Mind killed Bisu in Batoo? Bisu will wtfuck him.

I don't think Bisu will ever get an easier group.
Bisu... ;-(
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
June 14 2010 20:33 GMT
#71
yea, ever since that MSL finals, Mind is like 0-4 against Bisu
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 14 2010 20:34 GMT
#72
Poor Pusan. Kwanro sadly is one of the best players no matter how stupid his play often looks and before that he has to face Leta (who is really bad at Starleagues so I think at least that is possible)
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 14 2010 20:40 GMT
#73
On June 15 2010 05:13 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 05:07 newvsoldschool wrote:
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.


Like Mind killed Bisu in Batoo? Bisu will wtfuck him.

I don't think Bisu will ever get an easier group.


go.go's group was piss easy...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#74
On June 15 2010 03:47 asdfTT123 wrote:
Snow is SOOOOO overhyped it's ridiculous - he will not make it past Ro36 and will be forever forgotten (except by CJ fanboys)
Bisu and Baby will make Ro8 only to be eliminated
Killer will advance over Skyhigh AND Stork (Skyhigh was eliminated from EVER 2009 by none other than ggaemo 2-0 in Ro36).
Jaedong will win this OSL.

Snow really is incredibly overhyped. He will probably fall to Really but if he advances his chances against zero are maybe 10%. And Killer is neither the favorite against skyhigh and since stork has something to prove after his horrible MST he will probably demolish anyone who advances.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
June 14 2010 20:44 GMT
#75
I'm hoping they will do this seeding system for the quarterfinals ala MSL in order to avoid Jaedong v Flash quarters two seasons ago.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
June 14 2010 21:01 GMT
#76
Best groups ever! Final OSL belongs to a protoss. Damn terrans and their tanks and ugly zergs with their hydras will all fall to protoss!!!! Go Go Go!
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
June 14 2010 21:03 GMT
#77
Predictions:

(P)BeSt
(T)Canata
(Z)Hyuk
(T)Fantasy
(P)Pusan
(P)Bisu
(Z)ZerO
(T)fOrGG
(T)HiyA
(P)Stats (surprise, surprise)
(P)Stork
(P)Movie (you know it'll happen )
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 21:36:10
June 14 2010 21:17 GMT
#78
Predictions:

A - Best. Battle of the mediocre matchups in the first game, followed by Best showing his back-in-form PvT.
B - Free. Personally I think this is a tossup between Free and Calm, but I haven't watched a lot of their recent PvZ/ZvP.
C - Hyuk. Pure fanboyism.
D - Fantasy. Not much to say other than he's the best player in the group, and he isn't playing his bad matchup.
E - Leta. Not Bo5 means Leta will do well.
F - Bisu. Fanboyism; in reality Mind is probably more likely.
G - Zero. As much as I want Snow to make it out of this group, I just simply don't think his PvZ is good enough to beat someone of Zero's caliber.
H - Action. Shuttle and ForGG both seem very on-and-off these days.
I - Hiya. I just don't think Reach has it in him, and Shine's ZvT has always been awful.
J - Stats. Stats and Baby both have a decent shot, so I picked this one out of fanboyism again.
K - Stork. The obviously better player against two middle-tier players. If Stork doesn't pass this round, it's because he defeated himself.
L - Jaedong. Stop dreaming, Movie fans.

Poll Choices:
Winner - Flash. I'm not sure how the new OSL map plays out. It looks like Terran can be in a very good position surviving early mutalisk play (and lets be honest, TvZ is going to be the deciding matchup for this OSL). Ultimately, I think it will depend on how this map plays out.
Royal Roader - Stats. Legend of the Fall, combined with the fact that I think Stats has a better chance of out-PvZing Zero, Jaedong, and Effort than Snow does.
Overhyped - Snow. His PvT is immaculate, but he has shown absolutely no exceptional talent at the other two matchups.
Underdog - WHY IS HYUK NOT IN THIS POLL?

Edit: Legend of the Fall just made me rethink my answers. I now think Snow has a nonzero chance against Zero, Movie has a slight chance against Jaedong, and Stats is the most likely Royal Roader. I was also tempted to put Best as the winner, but reason prevailed.
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
June 14 2010 21:35 GMT
#79
Group A
(T)Sea

Group B
(T)Canata

Group C
(Z)Hyuk

Group D
(T)Fantasy

Group E
(T)Leta

Group F
(P)Bisu

Group G
(P)Snow

Group H
(Z)Action

Group I
(P)Reach

Group J
(T)BaBy

Group K
(P)Stork

Group L
(Z)Jaedong

Only a couple of "Reaches" :D
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 14 2010 21:43 GMT
#80
Sickkk, all the protosses mean that JD can finally add to his vP streak and ELO.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
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