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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 15 2004 12:33 GMT
#101
haha nice
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
April 15 2004 12:34 GMT
#102
left hand is everything in modern bw
JAM THE FUCKER!
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-15 12:40:57
April 15 2004 12:39 GMT
#103
Depends on the people playing stimey..they can be action packed, but usually not. I don't think I had to multi task that much, and it was a really short game.. like 11 minutes, so that played a role in it as well

http://hasuwar.isgsa.org/200apmnoHK.rep
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-15 13:08:20
April 15 2004 13:07 GMT
#104
(compared to the example games provided in the last page)

gessfk 200apm 3v3 terran bgh no hotkeys
81 select per minute <-- twice as much as boxer and nada
56 move per minute <-- slightly more than boxer and nada
18 train per minute <-- more than nada and twice boxer's
18 rally per minute <-- less than half nada's, but more than boxer's
13 attack move per minute <-- less than nada, more than double boxer's
6 shift select per minute <-- 1 more than nada and boxer

of course only you really know the usefulness of what you're doing, but it looks like you're a living boxer clone, maybe twice as fast! imagine if you used hotkeys too!
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
April 15 2004 13:17 GMT
#105
is everyone forgetting what APM is? actions per minute
now dont go tell me that __actions__ per minute mean shit
AUSSIESCUM
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 15 2004 13:24 GMT
#106
yep somuchbetter i guess now we all know gessfk is top 2 terran in korea
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
April 15 2004 13:27 GMT
#107
You can still waste clicks, but it'll still show speed in a general sense. I mean you can't seriously say a 100 APM person is faster than a 300 APM person, but when it only differs by like 40-50, it's not saying much as it could mean a lot of different things.
IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
April 15 2004 13:38 GMT
#108
All I know that I can't play terran or zerg without hotkeying units and facs/rax/hatches
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
April 15 2004 14:24 GMT
#109
On April 15 2004 22:24 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
yep somuchbetter i guess now we all know gessfk is top 2 terran in korea

yep stimey so apm has absolutely no use anymore
(example)
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#110
ugh pls dont talk to me anymoer rugbug
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
April 15 2004 14:48 GMT
#111
If you're allowed to blatantly exaggerate, why aren't I?
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
April 15 2004 23:02 GMT
#112
On April 15 2004 22:24 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
yep somuchbetter i guess now we all know gessfk is top 2 terran in korea

Damn tootin'.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 16 2004 00:52 GMT
#113
wtf did i exaggerate... wtf
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
April 16 2004 00:55 GMT
#114
"are hotkeys really that great?"

No, they suck. Close topic.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
BoBtheBuilder
Profile Joined January 2004
Australia53 Posts
April 16 2004 01:17 GMT
#115
People who spam click sometimes do it just to keep their hands moving and get prepared for actual usage of what would be idle hands. At the start of a game there is very little to do and its not spam if you're switching between doing useful things even if you've already done them and just switching between tasks and coordinating. Eventually you won't have time to spam click if you're playing your best game because it'll only work against you. Seen ogogo's left hand? Thats mostly spam until its being used in a battle when his hand goes EVEN faster and more insane. Hotkeys are godlike.
Guns dont kill people. Progamers kill people.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
April 16 2004 01:31 GMT
#116
are hotkeys really that great?

yes
Im back, in pog form!
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