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integral
United States3161 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2454 Posts
Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said. Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with. Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait. His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =( | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Awesome manner by Flash though. | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote: Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything. Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said. Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with. Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait. His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =( It's not just practice, its just rest. Flash has a very busy schedule and hes probably exhausted from travel and practice. If he can take even a few hours to rest and not carry his team it will help him. | ||
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
On May 07 2010 10:04 ]343[ wrote: actually it is quite asian - humility is pretty well looked-upon (It's still racist if you think it's somehow complimentary) | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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okum
France5779 Posts
On May 07 2010 15:07 RoyW wrote: (It's still racist if you think it's somehow complimentary) Not really, unless by abuse of the meaning of that word. Saying that humbleness is a common Asian trait probably counts as stereotype or generalization, but hardly (by itself) as racism. Blindly calling any statements about cultures or ethnic groups "racist" is inflammatory and counterproductive. | ||
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote: Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything. Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said. Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with. Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait. His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =( When your gamestyle is as timing dependent as Flash, you need the practice. No other terran can pull of Flash's version of the fake double constantly since they always miss the timings. If he doesn't practice, Flash can actually take a break for once instead of peddling the kids bike that keeps KT chugging along. Its likely why Stork spends half of the time losing games in the most pathetic ways because he simply doesn't prepare enough. Despite Stork being one of the best protoss players ever, I just can't take him seriously like Bisu or Reach because this interview persona (however exaggerated it might be) seems to leak into his gameplay. If he had the same drive as Flash or Jaedong, he'd probably have the golden mouse right now but instead a fifteen year old kid humiliated him in his best matchup and a guy who wasn't too great at ZvP completely walked over him. | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On May 07 2010 14:58 AppleTart wrote: It's not just practice, its just rest. Flash has a very busy schedule and hes probably exhausted from travel and practice. If he can take even a few hours to rest and not carry his team it will help him. in a usual match, flash would bash both mvp and pure without any sort of training, probably without knowing the map;-) however, we know that starleagues is the only thing flash's parents care about, and i think flash is very very very very very scared of being cheesed out, therefore he trains so much. btw, did stork say "flash lacks as a player" or "flash lacks as a sportsman" ? | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote: Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything. Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said. Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with. Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait. His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =( Idra and Nony are good players but "bad" compared to the Korean pros. The results of the games they play against each other prove nothing about practise trends in pro scene. Flash seemed to feel those three hours were important. Are you more informed than him on matters of Starcraft? I don't think so. | ||
Smix
United States4549 Posts
On May 07 2010 16:26 Heimatloser wrote: btw, did stork say "flash lacks as a player" or "flash lacks as a sportsman" ? Neither explicitly - he said in his interview "I wondered if he lacks confidence" for not showing up for his proleague match. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2454 Posts
On May 07 2010 16:33 J1.au wrote: Flash seemed to feel those three hours were important. Are you more informed than him on matters of Starcraft? I don't think so. Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3 Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~ | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On May 07 2010 23:06 Turbovolver wrote: Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3 Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~ I see, you're implying that Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash. This is incorrect. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2454 Posts
On May 07 2010 23:27 J1.au wrote: I see, you're implying that Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash. This is incorrect. There's a giant winky face there and all. But yeah, dunno. Maybe. | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
But then again, "perfect practice makes perfect". Since there is not much difference in the time of practice for progamers, Flash must definitely have some innate ability to extract to detail the things he learned from practice to prepare for (almost) every situation and perfect his play.  | ||
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Piste
6184 Posts
On May 07 2010 23:42 Turbovolver wrote: There's a giant winky face there and all. But yeah, dunno. Maybe. Of course Stork is more naturally talented when Flash just tears up both individual leagues plus proleague. He wants to take freetime from one game and Stork actes like he is pissed off when he is actually very reliefed that he didn't have to be destroyed by Flash, even tho he practised for that one match harder than any other match he ever played. | ||
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