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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
May 07 2010 04:24 GMT
#141
thanks for translating and I really enjoyed MrHoon's post, thanks
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#142
Stork's trap has been set, Everything will go, just as planned?
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2403 Posts
May 07 2010 04:48 GMT
#143
Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything.

Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said.

Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with.

Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait.

His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =(
The original Bogus fan.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 07 2010 04:48 GMT
#144
lol, everyone wants to play jaedong... until it actually happens!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
May 07 2010 05:52 GMT
#145
Love how this thread was NOT supposed to be a Flash vs Stork fanboy-off, and yet here we find just that.

Awesome manner by Flash though.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
May 07 2010 05:58 GMT
#146
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote:
Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything.

Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said.

Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with.

Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait.

His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =(


It's not just practice, its just rest. Flash has a very busy schedule and hes probably exhausted from travel and practice. If he can take even a few hours to rest and not carry his team it will help him.
always tired -_-
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
May 07 2010 06:07 GMT
#147
On May 07 2010 10:04 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 09:26 AppleTart wrote:
On May 07 2010 06:31 SuperArc wrote:
On May 07 2010 05:51 Jugan wrote:
You have to give props to Flash for taking stork's comments with grace. He could have easily called stork a douche and wrote him off, using his skill or any other amount of justification to do so. However, he immediately mentions that it is his own lacking and accepts responsibility for it - That is quite impressive.


No, that is quite Asian.


That's quite racist


actually it is quite asian - humility is pretty well looked-upon




(It's still racist if you think it's somehow complimentary)
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
May 07 2010 06:15 GMT
#148
toss bashers were Bisu bashers when he protested about the maps now as he dosent win they all bash on stok shame on you you used to love stork when bisu was beggining his slump...
in The Kong line forever
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
May 07 2010 06:46 GMT
#149
On May 07 2010 15:07 RoyW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 10:04 ]343[ wrote:
On May 07 2010 09:26 AppleTart wrote:
On May 07 2010 06:31 SuperArc wrote:
On May 07 2010 05:51 Jugan wrote:
You have to give props to Flash for taking stork's comments with grace. He could have easily called stork a douche and wrote him off, using his skill or any other amount of justification to do so. However, he immediately mentions that it is his own lacking and accepts responsibility for it - That is quite impressive.


No, that is quite Asian.


That's quite racist


actually it is quite asian - humility is pretty well looked-upon



(It's still racist if you think it's somehow complimentary)

Not really, unless by abuse of the meaning of that word. Saying that humbleness is a common Asian trait probably counts as stereotype or generalization, but hardly (by itself) as racism. Blindly calling any statements about cultures or ethnic groups "racist" is inflammatory and counterproductive.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 07:33:00
May 07 2010 07:22 GMT
#150
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote:
Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything.

Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said.

Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with.

Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait.

His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =(


When your gamestyle is as timing dependent as Flash, you need the practice. No other terran can pull of Flash's version of the fake double constantly since they always miss the timings. If he doesn't practice, Flash can actually take a break for once instead of peddling the kids bike that keeps KT chugging along.

Its likely why Stork spends half of the time losing games in the most pathetic ways because he simply doesn't prepare enough. Despite Stork being one of the best protoss players ever, I just can't take him seriously like Bisu or Reach because this interview persona (however exaggerated it might be) seems to leak into his gameplay. If he had the same drive as Flash or Jaedong, he'd probably have the golden mouse right now but instead a fifteen year old kid humiliated him in his best matchup and a guy who wasn't too great at ZvP completely walked over him.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 07 2010 07:26 GMT
#151
On May 07 2010 14:58 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote:
Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything.

Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said.

Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with.

Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait.

His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =(


It's not just practice, its just rest. Flash has a very busy schedule and hes probably exhausted from travel and practice. If he can take even a few hours to rest and not carry his team it will help him.


in a usual match, flash would bash both mvp and pure without any sort of training, probably without knowing the map;-)
however, we know that starleagues is the only thing flash's parents care about, and i think flash is very very very very very scared of being cheesed out, therefore he trains so much.

btw, did stork say "flash lacks as a player" or "flash lacks as a sportsman" ?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 07:33:47
May 07 2010 07:33 GMT
#152
On May 07 2010 13:48 Turbovolver wrote:
Stork is highlighting there a rather unspoken-of trend in the progaming scene. Something we saw with Nony vs Idra. Practise isn't fucking everything.

Starcraft skill doesn't magically disappear if you don't play an extra three hours. If you think you need those three hours, then you are probably lacking in confidence, which is exactly what Stork said.

Practise is very important for preparing builds and timings, and determining how to play those builds against the variety of possible responses. But a superior player is still going to be playing with the same brain, with the same SC habits, with the same basic level of micro to work with.

Stork wants to feel superior to flash for being more of a "winging it" player, and frankly I think that is an admirable trait.

His hypocrisy is disappointing though, given that people have pointed out that back in 08 he didn't play PL when he was busy either =(

Idra and Nony are good players but "bad" compared to the Korean pros. The results of the games they play against each other prove nothing about practise trends in pro scene.

Flash seemed to feel those three hours were important. Are you more informed than him on matters of Starcraft? I don't think so.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 07:37:29
May 07 2010 07:37 GMT
#153
On May 07 2010 16:26 Heimatloser wrote:
btw, did stork say "flash lacks as a player" or "flash lacks as a sportsman" ?


Neither explicitly - he said in his interview "I wondered if he lacks confidence" for not showing up for his proleague match.
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 07 2010 07:52 GMT
#154
I still remember that Stork vs Kwanro game, it was pretty hilarious.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2403 Posts
May 07 2010 14:06 GMT
#155
On May 07 2010 16:33 J1.au wrote:
Flash seemed to feel those three hours were important. Are you more informed than him on matters of Starcraft? I don't think so.


Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3

Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~
The original Bogus fan.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 07 2010 14:27 GMT
#156
On May 07 2010 23:06 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 16:33 J1.au wrote:
Flash seemed to feel those three hours were important. Are you more informed than him on matters of Starcraft? I don't think so.


Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3

Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~

I see, you're implying that Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash.

This is incorrect.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 07 2010 14:37 GMT
#157
Don't let this shit be inflammatory; I still love both Stork and Flash. <3
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2403 Posts
May 07 2010 14:42 GMT
#158
On May 07 2010 23:27 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 23:06 Turbovolver wrote:
Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3

Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~

I see, you're implying that Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash.

This is incorrect.


There's a giant winky face there and all.

But yeah, dunno. Maybe.
The original Bogus fan.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 14:48:15
May 07 2010 14:46 GMT
#159
@J1: Agreed. We don't actually know if Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash or the other way around but we know that Flash is extremely committed and hard-working to fulfill his goals. I cannot deny that Flash's uncanny game sense is acquired by constant practice and study of the game.

But then again, "perfect practice makes perfect". Since there is not much difference in the time of practice for progamers, Flash must definitely have some innate ability to extract to detail the things he learned from practice to prepare for (almost) every situation and perfect his play.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 07 2010 15:01 GMT
#160
On May 07 2010 23:42 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 23:27 J1.au wrote:
On May 07 2010 23:06 Turbovolver wrote:
Yeah, those hours are important to Flash. He can't get any results without working hard. Unlike Stork <3

Thanks for proving my point. ^___________~

I see, you're implying that Stork is more naturally skilled than Flash.

This is incorrect.


There's a giant winky face there and all.

But yeah, dunno. Maybe.

Of course Stork is more naturally talented when Flash just tears up both individual leagues plus proleague. He wants to take freetime from one game and Stork actes like he is pissed off when he is actually very reliefed that he didn't have to be destroyed by Flash, even tho he practised for that one match harder than any other match he ever played.
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