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KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 23 2010 13:24 GMT
#41
No one.

If I had to choose someone it'd be Zero. I really like Baby but I don't think he's ready to beat Flash's TvT...
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 23 2010 13:25 GMT
#42
On April 23 2010 22:19 3 Lions wrote:
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Baby played damn well today, but I don't think it's going to be enough to win the next two games against Flash. Judging only from the forms of the players today, I'd say either Effort or Kal.




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Effort... dude what are you thinking he cant win a terrible terran lately and you think he will stand a chance vs Flash? I would say everybody got better chance taking out Flash than Effort
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 13:49:34
April 23 2010 13:48 GMT
#43
I don't see anyone stopping him, unless he has to prepare PL plus multiple Bo5's the same week, and then someone seriously outprepares him.

I also think it is not just Flashs play but also the lack of S-Class performances by other players, noone is really stepping up to the task.

On the other hand, nearly noone thought that Jaedong could lose a Bo5 against a zerg last summer, and Calm took him out regardless, which was at the peak of JvZ.

But I myself don't believe Flash can be stopped by anyone in this OSL (and MSL for that matter, but I've doubted the Dong before^^).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 23 2010 13:53 GMT
#44
Flash's TvT is far too godly for a mortal like Baby + Show Spoiler +
as shown today
and Kal, while disputably the best Protoss, has good multitask but can't match Flash's late game management.
However, he did quite well the last time they played on Polaris Rhapsody, so an upset is possible.

KTY
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
April 23 2010 14:38 GMT
#45
This poll lacks a "no one is going to beat Flash." option.
Not voted.
Nobody is going to stop him.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 23 2010 14:44 GMT
#46
Zero and pure has the best chance to stop him as they are capable of bringing the unorthdox plays. Altough Kal and baby has the better chance of beating Flash in a standard game, that chance is far smaller than beating him in creative plays.

If Forgg has been on a different team, I'd give his timing pushes a fair chance of taking 2 games off of FLash on a Bo3. But since Flash is probably used to his play, FOrgg has no chance. Effort just rolls over to terran. Movie is just not creative enough or mechanical sound enough to take on Flash in a PvT right now.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 23 2010 14:49 GMT
#47
I'm 100% certain that Flash will not be stopped once he gets past the Bo3 stage.
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
April 23 2010 15:07 GMT
#48
On April 23 2010 23:38 iNfeRnaL wrote:
This poll lacks a "no one is going to beat Flash." option.
Not voted.
Nobody is going to stop him.


Flash is B word material if he wins this osl and gets to this msl final..
in The Kong line forever
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
April 23 2010 15:16 GMT
#49
On April 23 2010 18:40 O-ops wrote:
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On April 23 2010 18:22 O-ops wrote:
On April 23 2010 17:22 Wings wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:43 O-ops wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:38 Wings wrote:

We come to Flash's third worst matchup, his vT. Due to map imbalances, I'd say Flash automatically starts off with an advantage. However, Flash has only gone 9-4 in his last 13 TvT's (let's just ignore the 25-1 streak right before that). Do the math: that means Flash is actually only 69% in his last 13... O_O. Slump!!! As a result, I conclude that Baby or Forgg have the only realistic chance. Baby has the mental advantage; likely, this is probably the only time(?) Flash will have played someone younger than him in a BoX, and this likely scares him really badly. Baby is also riding a hot streak, and actually changed his name to Ty somewhere along the way. Forgg is Flash's teammate and therefore has secretly been extremely jealous of him throughout this entire time and has stolen all his replays. Likely, Flash's recent TvT losses were because Forgg tried to sabotage Flash by acting dumb during their practice matches.

Conclusion: Baby or Forgg.


I didn't know you map imba exists in mirror matchups.

And just saying, if TvT is Flash's third weakest matchup, would that not make that, you know, his strongest matchup?


Romanian immigrant?


Romanian native?


Edit: must be to say that TvP is Flash's weakest matchup currently. That and map imba exists in TvT.

Before quoting stats, plz make a conscious effort to use stats that makes sense. Flash's tvp record may be the lowest of the three (of this I am not sure, but it seems to be what you're using). But check out his games from the start of 2010. Aside from dropping a game to movie (in a Bo5 that he won) and to M18M he's been raping protoss left and right, including free, best, bisu, jangbi, stork, and Kal - 3 times this season. Flash's been on the scene for quite some time, and his win% include games from the very start of his career. Is it a clear indication of his current form? No.

I don't think i'll agree that Flash's second weakest mu is TvZ. I do agree with what you have to say about his opponents, however.

Your vT analysis just suck. Sounds like you're either trolling or attempting a humor post. You failed on both count.

I pray to God you're actually trolling.

I know I am :p

Sorry but YOU failed, everyone else thought it was funny and you were standing alone naked in confusion.

Amusing post Wings, keep it up ^_^
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 23 2010 15:28 GMT
#50
Baby seems to be playing the second best (after Flash) in the Ro8 at the moment. Look at how he crushed Jaedong.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 23 2010 15:29 GMT
#51
Kal's vs T is the best of the remaining contenders, closely followed by ZerO's.
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
April 23 2010 15:34 GMT
#52
Even though he'd still be the underdog in a Bo5, I think (Z)Jaedong has by far the best chance of stopping (T)Flash in this OSL.

Oh wait...

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(Z)ZerO and (P)Kal seem to have the best chance at stealing this title from (T)Flash. Both of their chances are pretty low though, and unfortunately a slumping (Z)EffOrt looks likely to knock both of them out and then fail against (T)Flash more miserably than (P)Movie did. If (T)Sea or (T)Really were still in the OSL, I'd definitely pick one of them as having the best shot, particularly (T)Really.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
April 23 2010 16:10 GMT
#53
either zero or kal, I'm going with kal.
Free Palestine
Lozzo.cu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States101 Posts
April 23 2010 16:18 GMT
#54
just a reminder to people about my original intent with the thread:

1. not saying flash wont win. in fact i cant realistically think of the situation where he loses.
2. the thread is basically "whos the best beside flash". therefore "flash wins" is not an option.
3. REALLY? NO ONE LIKES FORGG? i used to hate him because he loses every game after arena msl, but come on, no one?
Pride of War
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
April 23 2010 16:20 GMT
#55
Really none of them. Even if someone does beat him they'll probably use abusive builds or cheese, and you can't predict that. Probably a Protoss though....
My. Copy. Is. Here.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
April 23 2010 16:22 GMT
#56
yea, why isn't there a NONE option?
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
April 23 2010 16:24 GMT
#57
Only Flash can stop Flash at this point.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 23 2010 16:24 GMT
#58
Kal has the best chance if he can manage to not screw up his late game as he he has done the past two times he played Flash.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 23 2010 17:11 GMT
#59
Wings: big lol at TvT being Flash's "third worst" matchup.

The person most likely to beat Flash is ZerO, and I really just don't see it happening. If Flash allocates his practice time to the OSL, he will win it. As has been said a million times, the only person right now with a real shot at beating Flash in a Bo5 for which they both prepare is Jaedong.
May the BeSt man win.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
April 23 2010 17:18 GMT
#60
Only falconzerg can stop him.
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