Damn, M18M is going into the military already? I hope he gets accepted, he could probably end up being as successful as RuBy was. He always struck me as a fairly solid player, who in this case just didn't get enough playing time because he's on a team with Jangbi and Stork.
On April 15 2010 10:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: I could see M18M making it, but hell, why Rock when you've got Anytime and Reach who've always been better?
GGman is reeaaaaaaally oldschool. From what I remember he was around Pre 1.08 and right around there. Played Z. Seemed relatively similar to Enough and Byun.
M18M is relatively new to the scene, but he was most likely sick of playing under stork and jangbi in every pl match and getting no play time. Perhaps he will find rubyesque success on ACE.
On April 15 2010 10:22 Sadist wrote: GGman is reeaaaaaaally oldschool. From what I remember he was around Pre 1.08 and right around there. Played Z. Seemed relatively similar to Enough and Byun.
this is GgMaN[Name] not the guy you mentioned, so he's some obscure newbie from skt
On April 15 2010 10:22 Sadist wrote: GGman is reeaaaaaaally oldschool. From what I remember he was around Pre 1.08 and right around there. Played Z. Seemed relatively similar to Enough and Byun.
this is GgMaN[Name] not the guy you mentioned, so he's some obscure newbie from skt
But anyway YAY young people are joining ACE ggman is 19, so is m18m
Maybe ACE will become the "pissed is not getting playing time" team as opposed to the "no-name old guys who suck" team as suggested by someone on a previous thread.
Tho TBH OZ could use a toss versus say like Flash if Jaedong is defeated. M18M would be perfect.
So happy... Tho it would have been better if Ruby + Show Spoiler +
Ggman? Never heard of him. Must be some random chump...
Hope M18M will get in. He has pretty damn good PvT. But given that he was on a team with Stork and Jangbi he never got to play much which is a shame...
On April 15 2010 10:39 Gann1 wrote: I hope M18M gets in. He's really fun to watch PvT and he'd get a lot more playtime on ACE
ACE is losing Reach and Anytime soon, right? so hopefully M18M and Rock can both get in
Reach still has another 8+ months or so iirc. Anytime and Casy are the ones nearing the end of their time with Ace I believe. Did they say they were only taking on 2 players? If they are I would think they'd take M18M and ggaemo, easy. GgMaN has no chance and Rock is just the odd man out it looks like. Maybe a year ago Rock gets in, but not now.
Who knows though maybe they'll do what they did for Cloud and let him in on almost nothing other than being a recognizable old-school name
TheRock is friggin' hilarious. I seem to remember some interview where he said his goal was to win a game in the new year or something, haha. I hope he makes it in.
Say, aren't carriers supposed to be good on some of the new maps? He might actually have a chance.
I think we are seeing the first stage of a complete transaction for ACE.
A team of Heros into a team of noobs.
Sorry guys, but if that happens, ACE would completely lose its appeal. It may even get disbanded because it will keep losing games anyway and also have zero fanbase.
On April 15 2010 11:33 dukethegold wrote: I think we are seeing the first stage of a complete transaction for ACE.
A team of Heros into a team of noobs.
Sorry guys, but if that happens, ACE would completely lose its appeal. It may even get disbanded because it will keep losing games anyway and also have zero fanbase.
Yea, it'll happen eventually, but the players who go into Ace are also getting better and younger. Who knows, they might win some games down the road. However, Ace needs to get some more old stars like Pusan and Nada while making that transition.
With the new proleague rules M18M wouldve had good chances to play in Khan too, when can send 3 protosses... But maybe thats not what he wants to do at this point.
On April 15 2010 11:33 dukethegold wrote: I think we are seeing the first stage of a complete transaction for ACE.
A team of Heros into a team of noobs.
Sorry guys, but if that happens, ACE would completely lose its appeal. It may even get disbanded because it will keep losing games anyway and also have zero fanbase.
Yea, it'll happen eventually, but the players who go into Ace are also getting better and younger. Who knows, they might win some games down the road. However, Ace needs to get some more old stars like Pusan and Nada while making that transition.
You act like M18M and Rock will be BAD for their team? (@dukethegold)
If anything, these guys are completely bolstering their roster
On April 15 2010 11:33 dukethegold wrote: I think we are seeing the first stage of a complete transaction for ACE.
A team of Heros into a team of noobs.
Sorry guys, but if that happens, ACE would completely lose its appeal. It may even get disbanded because it will keep losing games anyway and also have zero fanbase.
Yea, it'll happen eventually, but the players who go into Ace are also getting better and younger. Who knows, they might win some games down the road. However, Ace needs to get some more old stars like Pusan and Nada while making that transition.
You act like M18M and Rock will be BAD for their team? (@dukethegold)
If anything, these guys are completely bolstering their roster
they're great practice partners at worst
Not saying that they will be bad for the team, but rather they can not adequately fulfill the vacancy of Anytime and Casy, two old school players with name power.
Name value is the primary reason that ACE has a solid fanbase.
On April 15 2010 11:26 tree.hugger wrote: Unlike the other two, M18M is actually very very good. Ace will have a better protoss line than Oz, MBC and Wemade if this goes through.
On April 15 2010 11:26 tree.hugger wrote: Unlike the other two, M18M is actually very very good. Ace will have a better protoss line than Oz, MBC and Wemade if this goes through.
Nice!
hoolly shit vT: 9-2 (81.82%)
Beating Pepe isnt a bit feat, but he did beat Sea in a Bo3 and Flash in WL. Only 11 live games though, thats nothing.
Never knew m18m has been around for so long. Damn, ace's protoss lineup is already pretty packed. I guess they can take in m18m and rock to replace anytime and reach, who is probably going to leave sometime soon.
On April 15 2010 12:02 Last Romantic wrote: The problem for me is, I prefer ACE as mediocre but nostalgic rather than slightly-better but unknown.
Isn't that how ACE started? When ACE had BoxeR, HOT, and a bunch of older-but-less-famous players, they had a better record than the 08-09 ACE where pretty much everyone had won an OSL or MSL.
On April 15 2010 12:02 Last Romantic wrote: The problem for me is, I prefer ACE as mediocre but nostalgic rather than slightly-better but unknown.
Isn't that how ACE started? When ACE had BoxeR, HOT, and a bunch of older-but-less-famous players, they had a better record than the 08-09 ACE where pretty much everyone had won an OSL or MSL.
On April 18 2010 11:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: GO M18M! he beat flash recently - even if it was a fluke ACE could use him
He's basically the Really of protoss, macro player who loses to whatever he doesn't expect or prepare for. With very high potential too but being in the team whose ace player is the epythome of his style meant that as good as he would get he would never get a regular spot.
Dunno how I missed this thread. Really hope M18M gets into Ace and plays regulary, he could be a huge player if he gets regular playtime
I really feel that ACE could get alot more wins with another player around the quality of ruby on the team - someone they could rely on to do well against the non top-tier players in proleague. All they'd need is a little bit of luck to have ruby/m18m win their games and then have darkelf bring it home with some bbs. Or at the very least take games to acematch with some regularity
As stated before in this thread, there is a difference between GgMaN(Name) and GGMAN. I too was fooled at first! Should have realized that I was wrong though since GGMAN has been retired for quite some time.
i have never heard about ggman o_O and to be honest, i don't see rock as a real enhancement for ace. reach and anytime should be way better. the only reason for picking him up would be, that reach and anytime will drop out of ace in near future (i have no idea when though).
m18m is pretty decent i think and i guess he'll make it in - despite the formerly stated reasons. he's better than rock.
Can any Korean here shed some light on Rock's reputation in the Korean world? On TL, he's pretty much the biggest joke, running neck to neck with Backho.
M18M should have applied to Oz instead. But with the racial rule removed, I suppose ACE is the better call.
On April 19 2010 22:59 dukethegold wrote: Can any Korean here shed some light on Rock's reputation in the Korean world? On TL, he's pretty much the biggest joke, running neck to neck with Backho.
M18M should have applied to Oz instead. But with the racial rule removed, I suppose ACE is the better call.
I think he has a much better reputation in Korea. Girls went gaga when he sang at that Group Selection (Ever 08). He's loved for things like that. Why do you think he's still in the team, let alone the captain?
What I do know about Rock's reputation in here is that Artosis HATES him to the bone.
Apparently Rock is a really nice and friendly guy who likes to help people. Atleast in every Wemade interview they seem to love him.
It's kind of like how ForGG was a huge joke on TL until just recently, but he's very well liked no matter his performance because he's a positive presence in the house and has a lot of experience to impart.
Rock is amazing man he is the only Protoss that beat the jdong in a bo5 did you see ever see the gif? not all progamer have gifs only the TRUE ballers. hahah
Rock could not win when he was actually practicing full time. Either of the other players have to be better IMO. Well, unless they bring 2v2 back, Rock was actually a good 2v2 player.
Rock, with the loss the other day, has now tied for 2nd longest Proleague losing streak (and going) at 12 losses. Frozen and Daezang also have 12-loss streaks. Reach holds the longest losing streak at 13 losses (hard to believe, right?).
lol, I hope theRock gets in. Hes always been my favorite "bad" player. Plus, aren't Anytime and Reach leaving soon? That would open up some spots for him to fill.
Rock, with the loss the other day, has now tied for 2nd longest Proleague losing streak (and going) at 12 losses. Frozen and Daezang also have 12-loss streaks. Reach holds the longest losing streak at 13 losses (hard to believe, right?).
Even more Reach trivia: His record proleague losing streak started with a loss to Stork in 2007 and ended by beating Stork in 2009 o________________________o
On April 21 2010 08:42 Sentenal wrote: lol, I hope theRock gets in. Hes always been my favorite "bad" player. Plus, aren't Anytime and Reach leaving soon? That would open up some spots for him to fill.
I swear I saw a game where Rock beat Jaedong and crushed Calrenge or someone like that. So why does artosis hate him?
Edit: Looked back through his records: Sure he is on a huge losing streak but thats because he is a super veteran. Back in his prime he was pretty decent. He beat Jaedong in a Bo5 or something and some other big names in younger years and had a decent win-loss ratio back then as well. I mean, he was around when Nal-ra and Boxer were still playig regularly(and beat both).
Do we all laugh at him because of Artosis? Because he played relatively better starcraft in his prime than a lot of guys in their primes right now.
On April 21 2010 11:37 lone_hydra wrote: I swear I saw a game where Rock beat Jaedong and crushed Calrenge or someone like that. So why does artosis hate him?
Edit: Looked back through his records: Sure he is on a huge losing streak but thats because he is a super veteran. Back in his prime he was pretty decent. He beat Jaedong in a Bo5 or something and some other big names in younger years and had a decent win-loss ratio back then as well. I mean, he was around when Nal-ra and Boxer were still playig regularly(and beat both).
Do we all laugh at him because of Artosis? Because he played relatively better starcraft in his prime than a lot of guys in their primes right now.
I don't know, why don't you ask him why he hates Rock?
On April 21 2010 11:37 lone_hydra wrote: I swear I saw a game where Rock beat Jaedong and crushed Calrenge or someone like that. So why does artosis hate him?
Edit: Looked back through his records: Sure he is on a huge losing streak but thats because he is a super veteran. Back in his prime he was pretty decent. He beat Jaedong in a Bo5 or something and some other big names in younger years and had a decent win-loss ratio back then as well. I mean, he was around when Nal-ra and Boxer were still playig regularly(and beat both).
Do we all laugh at him because of Artosis? Because he played relatively better starcraft in his prime than a lot of guys in their primes right now.
Probably because he constantly did that 2 base carrier build vs terran
I really hope Rock will get to ace. He always seemed like a very firendly and well-mannered guy.
But to be honest I started likeing him after his ceremony after beating JAedong in bo5. What a badass. That was a true ceremony, not some embarrassing and childish moves a la FBH.
On April 27 2010 12:01 Lebesgue wrote: I really hope Rock will get to ace. He always seemed like a very firendly and well-mannered guy.
But to be honest I started likeing him after his ceremony after beating JAedong in bo5. What a badass. That was a true ceremony, not some embarrassing and childish moves a la FBH.
They have ruby, they need someone who can beat everyone but Jaedong.
On April 19 2010 22:59 dukethegold wrote: Can any Korean here shed some light on Rock's reputation in the Korean world? On TL, he's pretty much the biggest joke, running neck to neck with Backho.
M18M should have applied to Oz instead. But with the racial rule removed, I suppose ACE is the better call.
I think he has a much better reputation in Korea. Girls went gaga when he sang at that Group Selection (Ever 08). He's loved for things like that. Why do you think he's still in the team, let alone the captain?
What I do know about Rock's reputation in here is that Artosis HATES him to the bone.