EPT[FPL] R4 Discussion - Page 7
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On April 08 2010 05:52 onewingedmoogle wrote: how are the adjusted costs going to work now that you don't know lineups beforehand? before the number of games they had remaining counted towards their cost iirc You don't need to know the lineups because you know exactly how many games they have remaining. Every team plays 11 games total. A player's cost does not factor in whether he is in the game or not. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Airforce ACE As usual, ACE is a crapshoot: probably won't do very well, but will have a couple decent performers: Ruby and Much hold the fort currently; everyone else is completely unpredictable. Probably not many players worth picking up here: Ruby and Much are both 3-pointers. DarkElf is a 1-point possibility, though Anytime may be overpriced at 2. CJ Entus Hard to predict anything solid here beyond: EffOrt is easily the best player on CJ and gets almost all the ace match work. He had a losing record in WL though, so I'm a touch nervous, but he's never had a really long slump, should be fine. sKyHigh and Movie are both decent mid-range players, and sKyHigh especially has a very high ceiling on his potential (which he has, however, never really hit in PL). Snow at 2 points may be worth a look. Iris at 2 points is probably overvalued. eSTRO Really is solid; Action is good; UpMagic is okay. hyvaa, being a mediocre Zerg, is about due for a winning streak; Flying and Classic have both showed lots of potential. I can't really recommend any of these players, but I wouldn't go putting them on your anti-team, either. SangHo at 2 could be a nice pickup, but he's been playing bad most of the season and I don't know why that would stop now. hite Sparkyz Leta has as many wins as the next four players on hite combined. Full Stop. That's it. That's the only good player on hite. (Averaging 10 wins a round is nothing to sneeze at though, might even be worth the 9 point price.) If, however, you need role-players, HoGiL at 3 points could - if he plays well and gets lots of ZvP - be a steal. Justin has barely played but looked good when he did. type-b is a sleeper: like every other hite Zerg he mostly sucks but breaks out occasionally. Hwaseung OZ Jaedong. Also HiyA. Possibly Killer, and if you're desperate Lomo. But remember: only 6 OZ players have won a game all year, and of those six only 2 - Jaedong and HiyA - have winning records. HiyA at 6 is a much better value than Jaedong at 10 but of course you can't go wrong with Jaedong. Otherwise Killer (4) has been steadily improving but still isn't actually a good player - he's about at Movie's level imo. Lomo is probably overpriced at 2 but if OZ can make sure he only plays players he ought to lose to he should get a lot of wins. (This is the Lomo Paradox, far less thoroughly researched than Luxury Chaos Theory.) KT Rolster KT Rolster is what hite wants to be. Flash has as many wins as the next four players on KT, just like Leta - but this is because Flash is insane and has 41 wins. 12 points is overpriced, but at least you know what you're getting. Apart from that, either Violet or Stats will play well but probably not both: Stats, despite a much better WL, is still cheaper. fOrGG may be worth a look at 3 if he keeps up his WL form. Other than Luxury - due to Chaos Theory - no KT Zerg is even good. Tempest has played two games in all of PL, but is undefeated. MBCGame Hero Sea carried MBC through the first two rounds while Light was mediocre; for WL they reversed roles. Round 4 could be great for both, bad for both, or somewhere in between. At any rate Light at 8 is probably overpriced, while Sea at 6 could be a good pickup. Hyun for 3 is probably a steal; han at 2 is a better player than Jaehoon at 3. Samsung KHAN Stork is worth consideration as always, but he hasn't been even as good as his 7 point cost. Jangbi at 6 is probably overpriced. firebathero showed good form in the WL and at 3 points could be an amazing sleeper. If M18M gets more play-time, he may start actually showing results but at 2 point cost I wouldn't be inclined to risk it. Juni is a fantastic AT pick: his ACE all-kill boosted his value to 2 points for this round, but I see no evidence that he's actually learned to play Starcraft. SK Telecom T1 Bisu is currently an unknown. He should show decent form whenever he gets back but of course you can't draft him now, sorry. Other than that, fantasy is a solid pick although he's no value at 8. He's the only player on SKT right now with a winning record. BeSt and Hyuk are the only other players worth consideration, at 3 and 2 points respectively. STX SouL Kal and Calm are both likely worth every bit of their 7 point price; Kal tends to do slightly worse overall but better in ace matches - but Calm plays more aces. Shuttle (or YoonJoong), Hwasin, by.hero, and Modesty all have winning records and are priced about right. This is like the actually good version of WeMade Fox (or maybe it's the other way around.) WeMade Fox RorO, Mind, Shine, and BaBy are all solid mid-range players who you might want on your team but do NOT want on your anti. BaBy especially has been showing mad potential and looks really nice for 4 points right now. Midas and Pure at 2 each are also worth considering, Midas more so. They don't have an ace but really are a fairly deep team. Woongjin Stars ZerO has a lot of wins, and because the Stars aren't actually all that good, plays a lot of ace games to get those wins. free and Kwanro are both good players; the rest of the team sucks, even, now that WL is over, GuemChi. GuemChi could make a nice AT pick, but I don't trust this one - see Luxury. Here's the tl;dr version of my recommendations:+ Show Spoiler + Recommended  EffOrtJaedong HiyAFlashSeaHyuN StorkfantasyKalCalmBaByZerOfreeSolid MuchsKyHighKillerStatsLightHanJangBifirebatheroBeStHyukShuttleHwasinModestyRorOMindShineMidasKwanroSleepers and Desperation Candidates AnytimeDarkElfMovieLomoLuxuryVioletJaehoonM18MheroPureRecommended for Your Anti-Team JuniGuemChi | ||
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losso
Bulgaria158 Posts
Main Team 12 Flash (captain) is Flash3 ForGG doesn't suck that much anymore!1 Just is apparently from KT. I wanted to get 815 but i just didn't have enough points  . MVP is surely a better 1-pointer but now im gonna have an all-kt team ~3 Stats got a win-streak of 7 in the WL1 Tempest 's only games during this season have been 2 wins, vs Leta and vs go.go .4 Violet is kind of a risk, i still do think he has huge potential tho.6 KT Rolster is currently 27-6 (+40) and already won WL. Anti Team 7 Effort3 Hogil3 Yarnci've taken a few risks but as long as those zergs in my anti keep on sucking i should be fine | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
 I mean now he can show his solid play without opponents knowing which set he is playing. | ||
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On April 08 2010 07:57 ndralcasid wrote: Booo.....new format made Hwasin a lot less attractive of a choice....without the race rule, STX's deep lineup means he'll be played less. Any other suggestions for a good 3 pointer? Action, ForGG, YoonJoong, Great, Firebathero, Shine, Stats | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36401 Posts
On April 08 2010 08:12 justiceknight wrote: hot_bid,may i know when will u be removing the 1 race per rule.Thanks NEVARRR | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
god damnit man I just wanted to field six Terrans | ||
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Yamoth
United States315 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
T_T TvTfest. Not that I don't enjoy them, but that's a lot of time. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36401 Posts
On April 08 2010 09:42 Yamoth wrote: Can we get Bisu in there pretty please? I don't even care if he is more expensive than he is worth. Unfortunately theres more to consider than simply overpricing him, if we have his price too high, its easy to just pick him for your antiteam. He'll be added after week 1 and then everyone can trade for him if necessary. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
On April 08 2010 10:20 Hot_Bid wrote: Unfortunately theres more to consider than simply overpricing him, if we have his price too high, its easy to just pick him for your antiteam. He'll be added after week 1 and then everyone can trade for him if necessary. This just in, Bisu wins his set+ace in both matches in week 1. Bisu is now the highest priced player. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
Is this for real becos i already have my Terran team ready T_T | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36401 Posts
On April 08 2010 10:30 justiceknight wrote: Is this for real becos i already have my Terran team ready T_T Yes its for real, for FPL the race rule will be intact for this season at minimum. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On April 08 2010 10:20 Hot_Bid wrote: Unfortunately theres more to consider than simply overpricing him, if we have his price too high, its easy to just pick him for your antiteam. He'll be added after week 1 and then everyone can trade for him if necessary. bisu is garnering a lot of attention. Do you have a best case/worse case senario for him, e.g. "if SKT 1 says Bisu is playing well and is ready to go, and Bisu says hes playing well and is ready to go, Bisu will be set at ___"? | ||
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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SniperVul5
Canada166 Posts
lets say his average is 6 overall or w/e and lets say randomly you wanted him to be 7 calculate the standard deviation and see what points would be relatively fair at that confidence level where = average +/- z-score(st.dev) just a thought.... lol you dont have to take this seriously | ||
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