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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 15 2004 14:30 GMT
#121
On March 15 2004 22:03 Vi)Chris wrote:
I think since Oov has higher stats then Nada that it means that Oov has better stats than Nada.

Mistyped or purposely being redundant?
ExtremeHangover2
Profile Joined March 2004
Denmark23 Posts
March 15 2004 20:08 GMT
#122
1 thing people need to realize is that the real question is, what the definition of "best" is. If the definition is clear, saying that its overall achievements. Anyone could just paste all achievements of both players(tricky logic, yes?) and make a comparison.




Pre-edit: People cant "realize"
ExtremeHangover1 + banned for having a brain
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
March 15 2004 21:43 GMT
#123
On March 15 2004 23:30 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2004 22:03 Vi)Chris wrote:
I think since Oov has higher stats then Nada that it means that Oov has better stats than Nada.

Mistyped or purposely being redundant?


He is denying the relevance of those stats to the argument, and maintaining that Oov's superior stats do not demonstrate that he is a superior player.

I hope I have interpreted the post correctly.
We are vigilant.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 15 2004 23:35 GMT
#124
absolutely...iloveoov owns+__+
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-16 05:51:07
March 16 2004 05:49 GMT
#125
Nada has been owning everyone that I think the broodwar community has gotten used to it. Nobody was surprised when Nada won the ktf tournament losing only once. We are used to nada, however iloveoov is like a new sensation. People love newcomers that burst into the scene with sparks flying everywhere.

As HovZ noted earlier, for the amount of games nada has played, his stats are fucking awesome. The only way we can compare statistics is that we take iloveoov's statistics atm with Nada's stats at the time he had played as many games as iloveoov, not his overral stats cuz the numbers are way too different. I think we will have a striking similarity. Even then we cannot say who is better cuz of stats cuz the more games you play, the harder it is to be consistant. Nada is doing a great job.

Right now Iloveoov is the most dangerous player because he just defeated the most feared playeres in the world without much difficulty: nada and yellow. To say he is better than nada you have to wait and see, consistancy is the only thing that matters. This guy has not even been in a ogn tournament yet which has arguably much tougher competition and pressure.
We decide our own destiny
LedZeppelin
Profile Joined March 2004
United States226 Posts
March 16 2004 06:12 GMT
#126
the stats are misleading. NaDa has played pretty much 3x as many games as oov, over time I'm pretty sure oov will eventually drop off. Lets face it, NaDa is rediculously consistent, and oov hasn't even been in the Starleague.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 16 2004 08:06 GMT
#127
the last 2 posts are pretty much what I was waiting to hear.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
March 16 2004 10:58 GMT
#128
oov has had a good fucking streak for a short period compared to Nada's incredable streak over a much much longer period.

How the fuck can anyone think oov is better then nada?
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 16 2004 11:12 GMT
#129
That's the point, you can't use "longer period" if somebody is better at the moment. I'm not saying oov is better, but that fact is, somebody can still be better than nada even if he hasn't been owning for a year. He hasn't "proven" it to the fans, but he could still be better.
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
March 16 2004 11:21 GMT
#130
Nada has to practice a lot more maps than Iloveoov since he's in every tourney, quite a disadvantage...
h e l l o e
Apoptosis
Profile Joined February 2004
United States78 Posts
March 16 2004 11:25 GMT
#131
No way =/
www.apopd.com - If you see the flash, it's already too late.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
March 16 2004 11:32 GMT
#132
Nal_Ra>all go go P!!!!
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
March 16 2004 13:12 GMT
#133
"best" in my opinion is the person most likely to win. The best player on earth right now is the player most likely to win a game/series right now. Going back to the old mensrea post, if you're life depended on a best of 3 or 5 series, and you didn't know the race and identity of your opponent, who would you pick to play for you. I think that's the simplest way to describe best. And I would pick nada in a heartbeat.
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-16 13:59:50
March 16 2004 13:58 GMT
#134

On March 16 2004 22:12 tenbagger wrote:
"best" in my opinion is the person most likely to win. The best player on earth right now is the player most likely to win a game/series right now. Going back to the old mensrea post, if you're life depended on a best of 3 or 5 series, and you didn't know the race and identity of your opponent, who would you pick to play for you. I think that's the simplest way to describe best. And I would pick nada in a heartbeat.


i agree on pretty much everything you wrote. all i would add is that if oov beats nada again, then you at least have to consider him
C6H7O2
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-16 13:59:58
March 16 2004 13:59 GMT
#135
If a player won ALL his pro matches, going like 50-0 and winning MSL, OGN challenge and star league, would you not consider that player the best? this has nothing to do with oov and nada, i'm just wondering where people draw the arbitrary benchmarks that they have done while attacking me.
C6H7O2
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-17 05:03:14
March 17 2004 05:00 GMT
#136
On March 16 2004 22:59 benzoic-acid wrote:
If a player won ALL his pro matches, going like 50-0 and winning MSL, OGN challenge and star league, would you not consider that player the best? this has nothing to do with oov and nada, i'm just wondering where people draw the arbitrary benchmarks that they have done while attacking me.


going undefeated 50-0 is godly. Iloveoov is not even close to being undefeated.
If he has gone undefeated against ALL the elite gamers out there than there is something to talk about.

Nada has played so many more games so it is unfair to compare stats like how you have been doing it. I am a lot more sure about nada's capabilities because he has been doing it for a longer time, he is consistant. Whereas you will never know if Iloveoov will pull a reach and disappear.
We decide our own destiny
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
April 21 2004 10:15 GMT
#137
Sorry for another one of these topics, but I feel its relevant now. It will be interesting to hear what people say
C6H7O2
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
April 21 2004 10:27 GMT
#138
heh, Oov proved his worth a second time, nothing more can be said other than iloveoov > NaDa at the moment. GL in the future Oov.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
April 21 2004 10:30 GMT
#139
oov is the dominant one +_+;; Every pro gamer fears him+_+
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
April 21 2004 10:33 GMT
#140
get with the times -_-

ppl were calling iloveoov the best since last year -_-
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