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ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
February 03 2010 18:45 GMT
#101
To be honest, I think these games show how bad a B teamer is instead of how good Juan is. Juan is a good player, I'm not going to insult him, but watching these games with some B+ level Protoss friends, I've noticed that Grape does the stupidest things ever, and his mechancis are kinda iffy.

These games should motivate ALL foreigners, because they show that B teamers aren't that much better, if at all then most top foreigners.
HitEmUp
TeabagInsurance
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada320 Posts
February 03 2010 18:57 GMT
#102
Plus IdrA is only a B teamer, and we've seen foreigners take games off him, so it's not the first time we've seen a comparison of B teamers to foreigners. And IdrA has been doing really well in the B teamer tournaments too.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
February 03 2010 19:06 GMT
#103
Yeah, I heard Kolll 2-0'ed some CJ b-teamer at WCG?
OmniKnight
Profile Joined August 2008
United States73 Posts
February 03 2010 19:57 GMT
#104
B-teamers aren't godly and have imba mechanics thats why they're b-teamers obviously...ppl kinda hype it up too much
TeabagInsurance
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 20:01:55
February 03 2010 20:00 GMT
#105
Just finished watching all of the games now.
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Great play by GosI[Terran] in the first game.

I think he progressively did worse in then 2nd and 3rd set though. I think he should have pushed a little further to Grapes bridge in the 2nd set to keep grapes map control down. He also should have assumed Grape was going carrier or arbiter tech and defended accordingly. Good response in the main with the mines and tanks, but he must have completely forgot about his 3rd. As long as he can hold out and keep his contain it would be 3 base to 3 base and eventually Grape wouldn't be able to do anything.

In the 3rd set, I think Grape just played very well, although of course Terran could have done better. I'm surprised he let Grape take the bottom right so damn easily, and he could have taken it out way earlier if he pushed properly. Clumping all his tanks and a-moving allowed Grape to get off tonnes of great storms and delay the expansions death for quite a while. And then of course the main problem of not being adequately prepared for carriers. I also feel he could have put on a lot more pressure after killing all the dragoons early-mid game, but taking a quick 3rd and 4th is also an alternative.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 03 2010 20:05 GMT
#106
more white-ra vs pro's plz
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 20:47:03
February 03 2010 20:17 GMT
#107
Terran played well , he obviously has what it takes to become a progamer if he puts as much dedication as needed . Skill wise i still think Ret is as close as a foreigner will get to a B - teamer . His ZvT and especially his ZvP are progamer's level and from his last showing in courage when he went 4 - 0 in ZvZ not counting the first guy because he was a joke he showed that he can improve a lot in the MU in a small amount of time . I'm still mad that Estro didn't show greater interest in him and also the dickhead that accused Ret for leaking replays .
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
February 03 2010 22:04 GMT
#108
after watching his absolutely horrible game in WCG vs stork, i'll have to say with the recent turn of events and this series impressed me very much.
NeO)PhOeNiX
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada250 Posts
February 03 2010 23:52 GMT
#109
gogo GosI[Terran]!!!! IM ROOTIN YA ON BRO!!
SC1: B_Saint[LighT]
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
February 04 2010 00:00 GMT
#110
Suprising...

Artosis get more players vs B gamers and not only the young "kids"
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Fisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden13 Posts
February 04 2010 00:01 GMT
#111
Amazing!
uhm
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 00:13:14
February 04 2010 00:12 GMT
#112
Good games all around.

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Why GosI would try to take 12 o'clock on HBR is beyond me. It's one of the worst expos to defend. This isn't what broke the camel's back in that game though. Grape did a great job of delaying and denying his pushes. If JF can show similar control with his Reavers GosI might have a hard time. I'm looking forward to some good games this weekend.


***

A suggestion for you Dan,

Drop the rhetorical question you leave at the end of each segment. Instead, make a statement. Such as, "Follow me on twitter.com/artosis for up to the minute news on Starcraft."

It's far more succinct and this way you don't beat around the bush. The only reason people watch your videos is because they're Starcraft fanatics. You don't have to ask the obvious.

Cheers.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 04 2010 00:48 GMT
#113
watched the game 1, wow terran definently showed us top foreign terran play. IdrA and Terran are two best foreign terrans for sure.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 04 2010 01:27 GMT
#114
I'm really worried about Artosis' health, he seems to get shivers and chills quite often
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
February 04 2010 01:44 GMT
#115
On February 04 2010 10:27 floor exercise wrote:
I'm really worried about Artosis' health, he seems to get shivers and chills quite often

Ya he should get that checked out. Goosebumps too.
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
February 05 2010 01:32 GMT
#116
youtubes are up!:

The Playlist

Game 1, Part 1 (all games are video responsed in order)


find the rest in this spoiler:
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Game 1, Part 2


Game 1, Part 3


Game 2, Part 1


Game 2, Part 2


Game 3, Part 1


Game 3, Part 2


Game 3, Part 3


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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
February 05 2010 01:53 GMT
#117
For some reason I get the feeling estro's B-teamers aren't as good as other team's B-teamers ... simply because they seem to have the most limited amount of resources and players (excluding ACE of course).
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
February 05 2010 02:09 GMT
#118
On February 05 2010 10:53 lac29 wrote:
For some reason I get the feeling estro's B-teamers aren't as good as other team's B-teamers ... simply because they seem to have the most limited amount of resources and players (excluding ACE of course).


actually, eSTRO's B-Team was known for being one of the strongest in the past, for having players like Puma, Suny, Action, etc. on it. Recently they have moved up the ranks though, and become A teamers, so the B-team isn't as strong as it once was. Despite this, the B-team is not particularly weak on eSTRO. I haven't really followed DreamLeague this season, but I suspect the results there can show this a bit as well.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
February 05 2010 03:34 GMT
#119
Thanks artosis Keep them coming
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
February 05 2010 03:35 GMT
#120
Getting a lil OT but do you know how estro ranks in terms of funding? I kinda assume they get the lowest amount of funding excluding ACE.
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