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[Interview] Jaedong's Clanmaster (1/12/10)

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sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
January 18 2010 18:41 GMT
#1
[YGoSu interviewed n.Die clanmaster. The entire interview is long and boring, so I tried to pull an excerpt about (Z)Jaedong and (P)Jaehoon, the clan's girl members, progaming, and StarCraft.]

From YGoSu, 1/12/10:

Pics of some n.Die members
[image loading]


Clan name - NeverDie
Date founded - January 2003
Server/Channel - West/Op n.die
Site - http://www.n-die.com

Nice to meet you. Please introduce yourself.
- Hi. I'm NeverDie Clan's master n.Die_yOng. My clan doesn't have a strict master lineage; it changed from time to time, but ever since it was founded I've been vicemaster and master and so on. I'm 27.

When was it founded?
- n.Die_Leader, n.Die_aTtaCk, n.Die_Baby, n.Die_Protoss, and I started in January 2003. The clan name doesn't have a special meaning. I just came up with it. People have misread it as "Naver Die," "Niver Die," etc.

People think of Jaedong when they think of n.Die clan.
- Since he was in middle school, we've been like brothers through our clan. But nowadays~ I understand that he's busy, but it's bit sad that he rarely keeps in touch. Jaedong, when your phone number is changed, text me!!! And when are you gonna take us out to eat!!! At least buy us a rice roll or smething, Jaedong.

[image loading]

Jaedong is aggressive even when it comes to noodle.

Jaedong is known for his huge practice amount. Was he like that back in the days?
- I remember that even as an amateur he consistently practiced 30 - 40 games daily. When a server like PGTOUR opened, he just said hi briefly and burrowed himself into practicing. As an amateur he won many tournaments and was famous.

We would rather just interview Jaedong if we keep talking just about him.. how about Jaehoon, another progamer from n.Die?
- Ah... I wasn't able to keep up with gaming news for a while, and I saw it a lot later - his Recall fail. When I saw it, I felt like falling down. On the other hand, it's good that he got a nickname and became an issue. He's usually good, but since he's like that on TV he might not have gotten used to TV. Fighting, Jaehoon! Don't get nervous.

We've heard that n.Die has many girl members.
- We have about 15 of them. It seems a bit few. Back in the days hotties were active, but all have burrowed; maybe they lost interest in StarCraft or turned to other games. Our vicemaster n.Die_TheCross is really interested in girls, so he actively recruit them. When he sees a girl on Battle.net, he friends her on Cyworld. If he then sees that she's pretty, he asks for a team play. I have nothing against n.Die_TheCross...

[image loading]


When you look at teens trying to be progamers, only few become successful ones. What do you think when you see teens giving up school and focusing on game?
- I apologize to the younger clan members for saying this, but I wanna stop those who challenge themselves after seeing only the glorious side. If you're not the top, it's hard to be successful. 1 ~ 2 years can be a long time, and I feel that when they're supposed to study, they waste their time trying to be progamers. Maybe unless they try really crazily. Why are there so many Courage Matches? The number of progaming teams accepting apprentices is limited.. Personally I think that needs to change. The participation fee is a problem too. And nowadays looks seem to matter too...

Some think that StarCraft's popularity is not what it used to be. How about n.Die?
- It's hard to interpret just from n.Die's situation. Of course it's not what it used to be. But even as the generation who was really into StarCraft leaves, the generation after that gets into it and enjoys, so it's good so far. My clan recently made a Crazyarcade clan.

Last word
- Clan promotion. We totally welcome girls! If you're good at PhotoShop and HTML, leave a message on our site. It's http://www.n-die.com.



SandwichApoc
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States115 Posts
January 18 2010 18:42 GMT
#2
So that's what n.Die stands for..
Tribulation
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway86 Posts
January 18 2010 18:46 GMT
#3
it says never die right after the pics.
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
January 18 2010 18:48 GMT
#4
miss chalrenge from long ago
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#5
So n.Die is similar to skull and bones i suppose?
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:54:28
January 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#6
Why is jd even in that clan at this point though?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 18 2010 18:51 GMT
#7
Actively recruits girls.. niiicceeee
:)
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 18 2010 18:55 GMT
#8
On January 19 2010 03:48 AlwaysGG wrote:
miss chalrenge from long ago


I miss him too. he was the only good protoss that sparkyz had now they got horangMEH!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 18 2010 18:56 GMT
#9
On January 19 2010 03:49 hifriend wrote:
Why is jd even in that clan at this point though?
who wouldnt want to be clanmates with jaehoon?
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#10
a clan with girls! thats gosu.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#11
yikes, it seems even the entertaining part of this was pretty boring! but thanks alot of the translation anyway.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:59:38
January 18 2010 18:58 GMT
#12
n.Die_TheCross is really interested in girls, so he actively recruit them. When he sees a girl on Battle.net, he friends her on Cyworld. If he then sees that she's pretty, he asks for a team play. I have nothing against n.Die_TheCross...

lol the best parts
I wonder how annoyed they are by Jaedong overshadowing the entire clan, or can they be honestly happy for him and proud about him.
BW fighting!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 18 2010 19:00 GMT
#13
Sweet, thanks for the translation
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 18 2010 19:00 GMT
#14
Even as an amateur Jaedong was winning left and right, scary.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
January 18 2010 19:01 GMT
#15
Wow, I never knew that n.Die had some many girls in it, and that n'Die_TheCross guy seems like he just wants to get some action rather than having them just in the clan for SC.
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
January 18 2010 19:01 GMT
#16
<3 girls! Hahahaha TheCross sounds so funny! The clanmaster was probably like -__- when he said "I have nothing against [him]..."
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
January 18 2010 19:05 GMT
#17
Who wouldn't want to be in the same clan as n.die_DDONG?
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 18 2010 19:07 GMT
#18
omg so cool, thanks a lot for translating!
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
January 18 2010 19:09 GMT
#19
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 18 2010 19:15 GMT
#20
On January 19 2010 04:09 Chill wrote:
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.


I concur!
Hi.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
January 18 2010 19:41 GMT
#21
On January 19 2010 03:49 Alur wrote:
So n.Die is similar to skull and bones i suppose?


what skull and bones are u referring to?

always kinda wondered wat the n.die meant, now i know its for a club of cool kids and hot korean womensss!
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
January 18 2010 19:59 GMT
#22
Its all a lie they are actually pimps. xD
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 20:02:01
January 18 2010 20:01 GMT
#23
On January 19 2010 04:09 Chill wrote:
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.


It's called ballercraft for a reason.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 18 2010 20:02 GMT
#24
Thanks for the translation - interesting stuff.

Too bad they didn't ask more members.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
January 18 2010 20:05 GMT
#25
On January 19 2010 04:41 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 03:49 Alur wrote:
So n.Die is similar to skull and bones i suppose?


what skull and bones are u referring to?

always kinda wondered wat the n.die meant, now i know its for a club of cool kids and hot korean womensss!


Jolly Roger
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 18 2010 20:16 GMT
#26
When he sees a girl on Battle.net, he friends her on Cyworld. If he then sees that she's pretty, he asks for a "team play".


Sounds like the plot of a pornfilm imo...
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
January 18 2010 20:51 GMT
#27
Lol good work TheCross.
I'm kindof interested in the abundance of replays on the site :D
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 21:03:58
January 18 2010 21:01 GMT
#28
Always thought that N.Die stands for Never Die

When I pronounce Jaedong's name in my head, I usually think of him as "n.Die Lee Jaedong", cuz it sounded cool to me.

Regarding Jaehoon's arbiter fail...I only saw that recently in the Jaedong PvX thread. To think that it is actually big news in Korea...I bet Jaehoon is considering retirement even as we speak.

On the other hand, surprised that n.Die is getting smaller. Surely Jaedong's fangirls number in the tens of thousands.

I wonder how's [Shield] doing.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 21:07:43
January 18 2010 21:07 GMT
#29
What Jaehoon Arbiter fail? Descriptions? VODS?
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 18 2010 21:09 GMT
#30
On January 19 2010 06:07 lone_hydra wrote:
What Jaehoon Arbiter fail? Descriptions? VODS?

Refer to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109931

And I fully concur that using a pro SC clan to meet up with chicks is check plus. Come back Chalrenge!
God Bless
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
January 18 2010 21:18 GMT
#31
the word "burrow" has never been put to better use.
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain352 Posts
January 18 2010 21:24 GMT
#32
hi im n.Die member but my photo not in there anyways i like a lot of being in n.Die

thx yOng and specially thx protoss, aeggnoreyo and attack
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
January 18 2010 21:37 GMT
#33
On January 19 2010 04:41 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 03:49 Alur wrote:
So n.Die is similar to skull and bones i suppose?


what skull and bones are u referring to?

always kinda wondered wat the n.die meant, now i know its for a club of cool kids and hot korean womensss!


pretty sure he's referring to the yale secret society
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Chux
Profile Joined June 2009
Peru255 Posts
January 18 2010 21:50 GMT
#34
On January 19 2010 03:41 sky_slasher wrote:
[image loading]

Jaedong is aggressive even when it comes to noodle.



WHOA! That's Jaedong with a peruvian flag in his jacket! I'm saving this pic xD
MSL 2052-2053, here we go!
jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
January 18 2010 21:55 GMT
#35
On January 19 2010 03:41 sky_slasher wrote:
Back in the days hotties were active, but all have burrowed; maybe they lost interest in StarCraft or turned to other games.


I laughed an uncomfortable amount at this.
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 18 2010 21:56 GMT
#36
Nice interview
n.Die_TheCross :D
I Can Fly...
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 18 2010 22:06 GMT
#37
Burrow fail. Shoulda used that 100/100 on something else.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
January 18 2010 22:23 GMT
#38
Hmmm I'm good at Photoshop/HTML, will they share their cute girls with me?
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 18 2010 22:28 GMT
#39
Man I was like "oh nice, have a look at their replay section!" but then I checked the versions and the games are pretty old but hey, got myself a nal_ra vs. savior rep!
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sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
January 19 2010 20:44 GMT
#40
On January 19 2010 03:56 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 03:49 hifriend wrote:
Why is jd even in that clan at this point though?
who wouldnt want to be clanmates with jaehoon?

b/c Jaedong is a loyal person (remember how he publicly stated he would stick with Hwaseung during the FA mess?) and his clan is important to him? Plus, he might still get some decent practice partners (just to warm up).

On January 19 2010 04:59 Altair wrote:
Its all a lie they are actually pimps. xD

And Jaedong is the pimp master!!!!

On January 19 2010 05:05 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 04:41 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 19 2010 03:49 Alur wrote:
So n.Die is similar to skull and bones i suppose?


what skull and bones are u referring to?

always kinda wondered wat the n.die meant, now i know its for a club of cool kids and hot korean womensss!


Jolly Roger

Um...in what way? Because Bush and Kerry were in it? lolz

On January 19 2010 06:50 Chux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 03:41 sky_slasher wrote:
[image loading]

Jaedong is aggressive even when it comes to noodle.



WHOA! That's Jaedong with a peruvian flag in his jacket! I'm saving this pic xD

Didn't even notice that...Jaedong for Peruvian president???
pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
February 21 2010 03:55 GMT
#41
Hahaha, this was great. I'd love if someone could translate the whole thing. So funny the recruiting girl gamer thing. hah..
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
February 21 2010 05:44 GMT
#42
They got some cute clan members.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
February 21 2010 05:51 GMT
#43
On January 19 2010 06:55 jgju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 03:41 sky_slasher wrote:
Back in the days hotties were active, but all have burrowed; maybe they lost interest in StarCraft or turned to other games.


I laughed an uncomfortable amount at this.

Agreed...
I still can't help myself imagining it
All these cute girls sitting around on some SC terrain, maybe near the temple in Neo Medusa, and then suddenly burrowing like lurkers in a bad-GIF animation sort of way.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 21 2010 05:52 GMT
#44
On January 19 2010 03:42 SandwichApoc wrote:
So that's what n.Die stands for..


I didnt think there was a single person out there that didnt know that.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
February 21 2010 07:19 GMT
#45
so... not all who pass the courage tournament/gets a progaming license gets to join a professional team? Wut the shit....
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 21 2010 07:39 GMT
#46
Rofl @ the actively recruiting girls thing.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 21 2010 08:13 GMT
#47
That's definitely something I encourage... starcraft and pretty girls
Furaha
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany271 Posts
February 21 2010 16:52 GMT
#48
Ahaha poor Jaedong... People always want food from him :3

Rly nice that a Clan recruits girls, since girls are still smiled at...
Maybe another girl like toss will come out and show the Guys that we CAN play ahaha ^^V
Go go!
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8190 Posts
February 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#49
On January 19 2010 04:09 Chill wrote:
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.

I'm not quite sure that iCCup is the best place to find nice girls to date.

That's just my humble opinion...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
February 21 2010 21:46 GMT
#50
wat how so many girls?
Sullifam
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
February 21 2010 22:07 GMT
#51
n.Die_TheCross - the nerd-pimp hybrid
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 21 2010 23:45 GMT
#52
n.Die is awesome, Jaehoon fighting~
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 22 2010 00:59 GMT
#53
lol @ the last words...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 01:10:35
February 22 2010 01:08 GMT
#54
On February 22 2010 02:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2010 04:09 Chill wrote:
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.

I'm not quite sure that iCCup is the best place to find nice girls to date.

That's just my humble opinion...



Lol, i don't think i've ever met a single girl on iccup. I doubt there are any. They are talking about Bnet.


I actually remember logging onto bnet Asia and getting STOMPED by a girl in an obs game...
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 22 2010 04:43 GMT
#55
how does the guy know that the girls he recruits aren't actually guys..................? they could be using fake pics. (since looks seem to play a large role here)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 22 2010 04:47 GMT
#56
TheCross is truly an amazing man.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
landonious
Profile Joined January 2010
United States60 Posts
February 22 2010 04:49 GMT
#57
help!! how do i start my own thread? i can post on other people's thread but i dont know where i can start my own topic??? someone pls help thx
Jaedong Fighting!!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 22 2010 06:45 GMT
#58
You must cross the burning bridge, making it through the fiery depths of hell, obtain an SC2 beta key, fight Satan himself, make it back through the impossible maze, hack through the waves of betakey-less SC nerds, and deliver the key to me at my house in Canada before I grant you access.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 22 2010 06:45 GMT
#59
+ Show Spoiler +
srsly
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
February 22 2010 06:47 GMT
#60
Wow I thought Tossgirl was the only girl still playing SC.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
February 22 2010 07:29 GMT
#61
On February 22 2010 08:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
n.Die is awesome, Jaehoon fighting~

ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
February 22 2010 07:46 GMT
#62
On February 22 2010 13:43 29 fps wrote:
how does the guy know that the girls he recruits aren't actually guys..................? they could be using fake pics. (since looks seem to play a large role here)
Judging by the photo of young Jaedong slurping noodles beside the guy, looks like the n.die clan had meet ups.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 22 2010 08:08 GMT
#63

- Clan promotion. We totally welcome girls! If you're good at PhotoShop and HTML, leave a message on our site.

did anyone else also interpret this in a purely cynical manner?
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Biff The Understudy
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February 22 2010 09:17 GMT
#64
On February 22 2010 10:08 pioneer8 wrote:
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On February 22 2010 02:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 19 2010 04:09 Chill wrote:
I fully support using an internet Starcraft clan to meet cute girls. Good work, TheCross; You are the true hero of this interview.

I'm not quite sure that iCCup is the best place to find nice girls to date.

That's just my humble opinion...



Lol, i don't think i've ever met a single girl on iccup. I doubt there are any. They are talking about Bnet.


I actually remember logging onto bnet Asia and getting STOMPED by a girl in an obs game...

Oh, yes, sure. What an idiot. If I want to date girl, I have to go on bnet, not on iCCup.

God, how could I make such mistake.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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