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OSL Hype: Bisu/JD/Stork/etc winner predictions

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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 04:48:59
January 15 2010 09:19 GMT
#1
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So it seems like Fomos did a bunch of interviews with other progamers and asked them to predict who will be winning the OSL finals. Fun translation, so have fun reading it

(Z)Jaedong's Prediction
▲ The maps are favored for Protoss in this OSL. However, I believe Flash will take this 3:1. There isn't a reason for it. I just wish Flash wins this OSL

(Z)Calm's Prediction
▲ I think the winner is 50:50. Although the maps are heavily favored for protoss, Movie's opponent is non other than Flash himself. I have no idea what will happen.

(Z)EffOrt's Prediction
▲ Movie will win with a score of 3:0, maybe a 3:1. I watched movie practice for this series and he's practicing really hard.

(Z)ZerO's Prediction
▲ Movie may be on fire, but this is Flash. The result will be with Flash's win. Because I am a Zerg user I won't be able to predict the score but Flash will win.

(Z)Kwanro's Prediction
▲ I don't think we should make rash predictions just yet. Both Flash and Movie have strengths so anything could happen. I guess this is around 50:50?

(P)Stork's Prediction
▲ Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with Flash recently and his TvP is really really good.
3:0, maybe a 3:1

(P)Bisu's Prediction
▲ Flash will win. Just looking at Flash's current state tells us he will win. I don't know the stats for the map pools so I can't make out a score, but Flash has experience in BOXs while Movie is a rookie. Since this is his first final I think movie might get nervous and choke.

(T)fantasy's Prediction
▲ Since Flash has alot of experience in big stages and everything else, I think Flash will win. Sets 1 and 5 are both New Heartbreak Ridge, but Flash seems to prepare very well on that map so I think if he can take the first game he'll win 3:0. Flash is also good at abusing mind games so if he is able to break Movie down psychologically, I don't think Movie has a slight chance to win.

(T)Hwasin's Prediction
▲ I think it's 50:50. When you're playing at a finals game, one must always be calm and mentally stable. But when I saw Movie recently, I could see that he was very nervous. If Movie is able to play at a calm state and manner, this will be 50:50. But if Movie breaks under the pressure, Flash will win.


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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 15 2010 09:22 GMT
#2
lol @ random netizen. Funny how all the top players predict Flash to win easily. other than effort ofc, whos obviously got to support his teammate with the irrational prediction ever.
Vibes
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany144 Posts
January 15 2010 09:22 GMT
#3
what or who is "taek bang leessang" ?
Just another Jaedong fanboy <3
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 15 2010 09:23 GMT
#4
I like kwanro's prediction. He got rape by flash in the MSL and still won't admit Flash is imba.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 15 2010 09:24 GMT
#5
On January 15 2010 18:22 Vibes wrote:
what or who is "taek bang leessang" ?

Names of some of the progamers interviewed put together.

Well it's no surprise most of them think Flash will win. I'm still hoping for Movie though, but there's no denying that Flash is a scary player.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 15 2010 09:24 GMT
#6
@angry korean CJ fan: qq more
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 15 2010 09:24 GMT
#7
On January 15 2010 18:22 Vibes wrote:
what or who is "taek bang leessang" ?

Taek = Bisu
Bang = Stork
Lee = Last names of both Flash and Jaedong
Ssang = It means 2 in Korean

So basically it's a shortened way in Korean of saying "Bisu/Stork/Jd/Flash"
dats racist
Vibes
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany144 Posts
January 15 2010 09:25 GMT
#8
On January 15 2010 18:24 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 18:22 Vibes wrote:
what or who is "taek bang leessang" ?

Taek = Bisu
Bang = Stork
Lee = Last names of both Flash and Jaedong
Ssang = It means 2 in Korean

So basically it's a shortened way in Korean of saying "Bisu/Stork/Jd/Flash"


Thanks a lot for explanation and of course the translation
Just another Jaedong fanboy <3
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
January 15 2010 09:27 GMT
#9
Haha angry netizens.

I love how the only one calling for Movie to win is his teammate –_–
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4202 Posts
January 15 2010 09:27 GMT
#10
aw, effort is the only one that believes in movie
( ・´ー・`)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 15 2010 09:34 GMT
#11
On January 15 2010 18:27 number1gog wrote:
I love how the only one calling for Movie to win is his teammate –_–


Hahahaha, yeah, especially with the justification "he is practicing really hard", like Flash wouldn't be or something. I think everyone calling for 50:50 is just being kind, while the guys that don't really care about looking like jerks are all calling Flash.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
January 15 2010 09:41 GMT
#12
The netizen's comment completely made my day~
this is my quote.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 15 2010 09:47 GMT
#13
The majority of progamers can't be wrong? Flash will definitely win?

GO MOVIE!
Brood War loyalist
lisakki
Profile Joined November 2008
Finland41 Posts
January 15 2010 09:47 GMT
#14
This is the funniest translation I've seen in a while. I love how everyone's response is so predictable.

Btw why does STX favor Movie?
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
January 15 2010 09:49 GMT
#15
Rofl at netizens comment lol...

Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 15 2010 09:57 GMT
#16
lol JD wan't Flash to win. Such a good competitor. JD also practiced with Flash before his games against Kwanro.

It seems like all the good players are really great guys imo.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
January 15 2010 10:16 GMT
#17
Why on earth is New HB so much easier than HB in TvP? They just moved 4th base a little bit...
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fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 15 2010 10:19 GMT
#18
After reading this I'm sure Bisu and Stork are helping Flash with practice, Stork even said it. Getting practice from these + violet tempest and stats, can't see Flash losing this one.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 15 2010 10:20 GMT
#19
On January 15 2010 19:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Why on earth is New HB so much easier than HB in TvP? They just moved 4th base a little bit...

Center
dats racist
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
January 15 2010 10:20 GMT
#20
Seems most of them were pretty straight forward, FLASH WILL WIN. I like it. Thanks for trasnlation Mr. Hoon!
☺ ☻
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
January 15 2010 10:21 GMT
#21
that center lane that opened up with the changing from rubble to a path to center gives the terran an easier time getting out of his natural and being able to siege on that ledge goes a long way when you need to turtle.

of course that door swings both ways, but old HBR really boxed terrans in for the early game.

it's also a lot easier to push across the middle and abuse all the little chokes that your opponent would have to charged into
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 15 2010 10:22 GMT
#22
LMFAO AT THE KOREAN CJ FAN CMMENT rofl

well..

sucks for movie lawl but i think most people are gonna be predicting a win for flash.
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KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 15 2010 10:22 GMT
#23
Poor Movie, but I guess he knows he's the huge underdog here anyway. I agree with Jaedong here though!
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 15 2010 10:28 GMT
#24
hahaha lol at the cj fan xD

Oh well, time to prove them all wrong, movie!
Effort and I believe in you, that's all that matters =)
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 15 2010 10:35 GMT
#25
Lol at effort ). And Bisu and Stork, that are tosses and know what they are saing said Movie has no chance.

Reeeeealllly hope it's not going to be 3-0.

Oh, and Movie, please don't choke!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 15 2010 10:47 GMT
#26
Effort is insane. But ofc he only says that b/c he is a teammate.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 15 2010 10:49 GMT
#27
zomg, stork please practice more with flash!!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#28
On January 15 2010 19:20 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 19:16 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Why on earth is New HB so much easier than HB in TvP? They just moved 4th base a little bit...

Center

Yeah you can push and get into an awsome position pushing through the middle
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Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#29
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 15 2010 10:57 GMT
#30
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.


Flash recently said that he didn't prepare so much for the semi's vs kwanro since he was focusing on his TvP.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
January 15 2010 11:22 GMT
#31
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!


You're joking right? Stork practices with Flash and since the final is a TvP I think his "insight" would be greater than Effort's.
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 15 2010 11:26 GMT
#32
and movie made it to the finals, not stork --v
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Oai
Profile Joined July 2009
United States40 Posts
January 15 2010 11:28 GMT
#33
Flash has Violet AND Stork to practice for this, with?! How imba. haha. Poor Movie. >.<;;
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 15 2010 11:28 GMT
#34
On January 15 2010 20:26 Sosha wrote:
and movie made it to the finals, not stork --v

you didnt seem to get his point...
Woo Jung Ho
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 11:42:31
January 15 2010 11:41 GMT
#35
On January 15 2010 20:28 Oai wrote:
Flash has Violet AND Stork to practice for this, with?! How imba. haha. Poor Movie. >.<;;


Screw it, Movie has Skyhigh and IdrA - he'll be fine.
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 15 2010 11:43 GMT
#36
I wonder what idra has to say about this
8==========))
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
January 15 2010 11:51 GMT
#37
probably something along the lines of
HEY LOOK AT US, WE'RE TAEK BANG LEESSANG. OMNOMNOM WE'RE GUNNA SUCK EACH OTHER'S DICKS
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 15 2010 12:15 GMT
#38
On January 15 2010 18:41 Ozarugold wrote:
The netizen's comment completely made my day~

That Bisu didn't want to talk about mappools made mine.
In the woods, there lurks..
ToN
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada245 Posts
January 15 2010 12:17 GMT
#39
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!


Didn't Flash say he always did this in an interview with him a while ago?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
January 15 2010 12:17 GMT
#40
On January 15 2010 19:21 yarkO wrote:
that center lane that opened up with the changing from rubble to a path to center gives the terran an easier time getting out of his natural and being able to siege on that ledge goes a long way when you need to turtle.

of course that door swings both ways, but old HBR really boxed terrans in for the early game.

it's also a lot easier to push across the middle and abuse all the little chokes that your opponent would have to charged into

Ooooooh yes! I hadn't seen that. Thanks :-)
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IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 15 2010 12:22 GMT
#41
flash got stork to practice with for the finals? movie is even more screwed than he already was
aka DTF-ZeRo
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
January 15 2010 12:24 GMT
#42
Movie should bring some miracle play to beat Flash. I played some PvT on new HBR and i don't think it favors protoss that much to be an issue here. Anyway go Movie, beat Flash - that would be awesome
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 15 2010 12:30 GMT
#43
rofl random cj netizen lol

ty for translations
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
January 15 2010 12:31 GMT
#44
Stork's comment kinda left me chills. Fuggin' baller.
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 15 2010 12:31 GMT
#45
kwanro on rage?


flash its ahead in all polls... that its not good.

i hope he wins both tourneys!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 12:35:38
January 15 2010 12:34 GMT
#46
I always considered the old HBR better for TvP. With the new one you have to push farther to protect your 3rd. With the old one you just push to the nearest side entrance and you have a 3rd gas and a mineral only. New one min. only is harder to defend and you have to push 1 "ridge?" farther. I obviously know way more about it than the pros tho
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
January 15 2010 12:40 GMT
#47
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!

Except Flash said he was practicing mainly for this one theses days. I don't think Fash takes an important bo5 lightly anymore. I think he learnt the lesson after his loss to ForGG.

EffOrt supports his team mate. Movie can win, but he is clearly not favourite here. We'll see.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
January 15 2010 13:51 GMT
#48
i really hope movie pulls an upset and wins, but there's no denying flash's favouritism

i think its about 15:85 for movie, i'll root for this 15%!

gogogo movie!
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 15 2010 13:57 GMT
#49
Movie fighting dammit!
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 15 2010 14:07 GMT
#50
GO MOVIE!
Let's be realistic though. Flash is going to win.
Sullifam
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 15 2010 14:21 GMT
#51
On January 15 2010 21:31 No_eL wrote:
kwanro on rage?


flash its ahead in all polls... that its not good.

i hope he wins both tourneys!

he used to be on cj, so i'm sure he has a relationship with movie
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 15 2010 14:23 GMT
#52
I like Hwasin's assessment.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 14:25:28
January 15 2010 14:25 GMT
#53
Nice insights (albeit most of them tell nothing new)! They are trying pretty hard to hype the OSL final up and I applaud that.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
January 15 2010 17:27 GMT
#54

(Z)EffOrt's Prediction
▲ Movie will win with a score of 3:0, maybe a 3:1. I watched movie practice for this series and he's practicing really hard.

I first thought he said Flash but then i realized that he said Movie.
Movie FTW!!!


(P)Stork's Prediction
▲ Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with Flash recently and his TvP is really really good.
3:0, maybe a 3:1

Lol, (P)Stork is so envying Movie. He just cant admit that Movie can play better then him :D


(P)Bisu's Prediction
▲ Flash will win. Just looking at Flash's current state tells us he will win. I don't know the stats for the map pools so I can't make out a score, but Flash has experience in BOXs while Movie is a rookie. Since this is his first final I think movie might get nervous and choke.

And this is (P)Bisu who won invincible Savior in his prime...
Protoss are so envying Movie... :D
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 15 2010 17:37 GMT
#55
On January 16 2010 02:27 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +

(Z)EffOrt's Prediction
▲ Movie will win with a score of 3:0, maybe a 3:1. I watched movie practice for this series and he's practicing really hard.

I first thought he said Flash but then i realized that he said Movie.
Movie FTW!!!

Show nested quote +

(P)Stork's Prediction
▲ Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with Flash recently and his TvP is really really good.
3:0, maybe a 3:1

Lol, (P)Stork is so envying Movie. He just cant admit that Movie can play better then him :D

Show nested quote +

(P)Bisu's Prediction
▲ Flash will win. Just looking at Flash's current state tells us he will win. I don't know the stats for the map pools so I can't make out a score, but Flash has experience in BOXs while Movie is a rookie. Since this is his first final I think movie might get nervous and choke.

And this is (P)Bisu who won invincible Savior in his prime...
Protoss are so envying Movie... :D
Movie has still got nothing compared to Stork and Bisu. I don't know what you're talking about, but if there's someone for Protoss players to envy that would be Bisu, the best Protoss player of all time, right?
Stuslegend
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada168 Posts
January 15 2010 17:39 GMT
#56
take em to the movies movie!!
stork can have my kids in his mouth any time... no homo O_O'
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 17:51:47
January 15 2010 17:50 GMT
#57
Reading these predictions, including from some of my favourite players, makes me want to root for Movie even harder. It`s clear that almost everyone thinks he is automatically done for.

While there is no doubt that the odds are stacked against him (PvT is his worst matchup, Flash seems invincible), there have been cases in professional StarCraft when players managed to pull through in spite of the odds. So I am not willing to discount Movie.

EDIT: Movie, it`s time to take Flash to the movies! :D
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
January 15 2010 17:57 GMT
#58
Yeah, what's with STX liking Movie?

Anyway, I think people are underestimating the Iron Reaver, assuming he doesn't choke (which is a very strong possiblity since it's his first finals) this series will be an easy 3:2 in either direction, hands down.

Movie Hwaiting!!!!
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 15 2010 17:59 GMT
#59
Hmm Flash is the ultimate weapon , but Movie has the CJ face . I guess i'll have to cheer for Movie and i hope he brings his awesome shuttle micro with some well planned cheese builds in to the finals !
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 15 2010 18:03 GMT
#60
On January 15 2010 18:19 MrHoon wrote:
(Z)Kwanro's Prediction
▲ I don't think we should make rash predictions just yet. Both Flash and Movie have strengths so anything could happen. I guess this is around 50:50?

rash predictions after the OSL finals are OK
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
January 15 2010 18:08 GMT
#61
I agree with the angre korean CJ fan lolololol
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
January 15 2010 18:09 GMT
#62
lol, I know I'm a KT fan myself, but I had a good laugh comparing the posts by KT fans and CJ fans. I omitted the ~four posts by KT fans talking about NHR - I guess we can say KT fans are less in-tune with game strategy or something? :D

CJ Fans

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2010 18:27 number1gog wrote:
Haha angry netizens.

I love how the only one calling for Movie to win is his teammate –_–


On January 15 2010 18:27 prototype. wrote:
aw, effort is the only one that believes in movie


On January 15 2010 18:47 meegrean wrote:
The majority of progamers can't be wrong? Flash will definitely win?

GO MOVIE!


On January 15 2010 18:57 Elroi wrote:
lol JD wan't Flash to win. Such a good competitor. JD also practiced with Flash before his games against Kwanro.

It seems like all the good players are really great guys imo.


On January 15 2010 19:22 alffla wrote:
LMFAO AT THE KOREAN CJ FAN CMMENT rofl

well..

sucks for movie lawl but i think most people are gonna be predicting a win for flash.


On January 15 2010 19:28 7mk wrote:
hahaha lol at the cj fan xD

Oh well, time to prove them all wrong, movie!
Effort and I believe in you, that's all that matters =)


On January 15 2010 22:51 Jackal03 wrote:
i really hope movie pulls an upset and wins, but there's no denying flash's favouritism

i think its about 15:85 for movie, i'll root for this 15%!

gogogo movie!


On January 15 2010 22:57 Emon_ wrote:
Movie fighting dammit!


On January 15 2010 23:07 ghostWriter wrote:
GO MOVIE!
Let's be realistic though. Flash is going to win.


On January 16 2010 02:57 Kimaker wrote:
Yeah, what's with STX liking Movie?

Anyway, I think people are underestimating the Iron Reaver, assuming he doesn't choke (which is a very strong possiblity since it's his first finals) this series will be an easy 3:2 in either direction, hands down.

Movie Hwaiting!!!!


On January 16 2010 02:59 raga4ka wrote:
Hmm Flash is the ultimate weapon , but Movie has the CJ face . I guess i'll have to cheer for Movie and i hope he brings his awesome shuttle micro with some well planned cheese builds in to the finals !


KT Fans

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2010 20:22 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!


You're joking right? Stork practices with Flash and since the final is a TvP I think his "insight" would be greater than Effort's.


On January 15 2010 20:28 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 20:26 Sosha wrote:
and movie made it to the finals, not stork --v

you didnt seem to get his point...


On January 15 2010 20:43 kyzers0ze wrote:
I wonder what idra has to say about this


On January 15 2010 21:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 18:41 Ozarugold wrote:
The netizen's comment completely made my day~

That Bisu didn't want to talk about mappools made mine.


On January 15 2010 21:30 sung_moon wrote:
rofl random cj netizen lol

ty for translations


On January 15 2010 21:31 No_eL wrote:
kwanro on rage?


flash its ahead in all polls... that its not good.

i hope he wins both tourneys!


On January 15 2010 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 19:54 Sosha wrote:
well i'd like to side in Efforts favor here, as he's at least offering some real valuable insight, being a practice partner / team-mate of Movies.

"He practicing real hard for the matchup"
If Movie v Shine was any indicator of some one who really practiced/studied/prepared.. I think Movie might surprise a lot of viewers. Flash might be going into the set thinking he's got it in the bag.

Anywho..
hoping for gg's.
can't wait!

gogo movie!

Except Flash said he was practicing mainly for this one theses days. I don't think Fash takes an important bo5 lightly anymore. I think he learnt the lesson after his loss to ForGG.

EffOrt supports his team mate. Movie can win, but he is clearly not favourite here. We'll see.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 15 2010 18:13 GMT
#63
EffOrt has to say that... it's about his teammate D:
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 18:46:15
January 15 2010 18:17 GMT
#64
Angry CJ Netizen almost made me spit out my drink I was laughing so hard.

Speaking of Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang, we already know that Flash/JD/Stork are great buddies and help eachother out all the time, cheer for eachother, etc. etc., but Bisu was sort of the odd guy out. Does anyone know if that's changed, and if Bisu practices with the other 3 more, now?

edit:

A sort of amusing thing I just noticed, Flash beat every single Zerg interviewed there in a Bo3 or Bo5 this season.

Except Effort, who he beat in a Bo3 just before this season started (WCG).
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
January 15 2010 18:24 GMT
#65
On January 16 2010 03:17 Hinanawi wrote:
Angry CJ Netizen almost made me spit out my drink I was laughing so hard.

Speaking of Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang, we already know that Flash/JD/Stork are great buddies and help eachother out all the time, cheer for eachother, etc. etc., but Bisu was sort of the odd guy out. Does anyone know if that's changed, and if Bisu practices with the other 3 more, now?

Maybe... but I just can't see it. Bisu is all like "I'm an Island, lol wat?" whereas the others tend to embrace a more Donne-esque outlook.
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hazed
Profile Joined February 2009
United States42 Posts
January 15 2010 18:28 GMT
#66
Movie all the way.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 15 2010 18:33 GMT
#67
what is the difference between new hbr and old ??
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 15 2010 18:36 GMT
#68
I hope movie does some revolutionary PvT build; I wouldn't put it past him since he has his very cool and distinct han bang timing attack style vs zerg.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
January 15 2010 18:37 GMT
#69
On January 16 2010 03:33 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
what is the difference between new hbr and old ??

I dunno lol
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 18:39:15
January 15 2010 18:38 GMT
#70
Guys predicting 50/50 are making their way into politics or practice partners hehehehhee

On January 16 2010 03:33 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
what is the difference between new hbr and old ??


I think mainly mineral count at each main/expo
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
January 15 2010 18:45 GMT
#71
efforts prediction was the closest to truth, and not biased at all!
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Neighbor
Profile Joined May 2009
United States119 Posts
January 15 2010 18:47 GMT
#72
On January 16 2010 03:33 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
what is the difference between new hbr and old ??


Extra min patch at nat.
Mineral only bases moved closer to thirds.
Center connected by more "ridges" (good for tvp because terran can push through center).
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 15 2010 19:08 GMT
#73
Also, while progamer predictions are interesting, I want to know who is helping which players practice!

We knew (P)Stork was going to be helping Flash out, and he just confirmed it in this interview, but anyone else (outside of Violet/Stats on his team)? (P)Bisu, maybe? ...probably not.

Movie might be getting some help from outside CJ too...I wonder if he managed to bag (T)Really, that's who he should really want to get his hands on to practice with...(T)fantasy is Flash's friend so I doubt he'd agree to help Movie out. (T)Sea might be willing to help, though.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 15 2010 19:10 GMT
#74
Lol Effort so baller xD

Flash practicing with Stork is way too imba tho.
Revolutionist fan
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 15 2010 19:16 GMT
#75
don't be too hard on poor kwanro. honesty comes with great difficulty when you've got a sore anus
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 15 2010 19:16 GMT
#76
"but this is Flash"

Exactly.
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dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
January 15 2010 19:25 GMT
#77
On January 16 2010 04:16 CTStalker wrote:
don't be too hard on poor kwanro. honesty comes with great difficulty when you've got a sore anus

Haha the same thing could be said for Stork and Bisu.
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 15 2010 19:43 GMT
#78
LOL Bisu Stork Jaedong Flash <3 love
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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 19:44:50
January 15 2010 19:44 GMT
#79
On January 16 2010 03:45 pripple wrote:
efforts prediction was the closest to truth, and not biased at all!


I hope you are being sarcastic.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 15 2010 19:48 GMT
#80
On January 16 2010 03:36 Whiplash wrote:
I hope movie does some revolutionary PvT build; I wouldn't put it past him since he has his very cool and distinct han bang timing attack style vs zerg.


I don't think he's the type to come up with any sort of revolutionary management style, like Stork or Bisu. Movie might do cute timing attacks and cheeses but that should be about it.'

Suddenly I'm reminded of Stork's claim that he has a revolutionary new PvZ style that he wanted to use against Kwanro but never got the chance. I wonder if we'll see that in PL

and what happened to Flash's new "TvP management revolution", is he saving it for the OSL finals or is he still working on it? I guess we'll see.
RIP Aaliyah
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
January 15 2010 19:50 GMT
#81
Hope Movie puts up more of a fight than Best. But honestly, Flash's last 4 TvPs wins are all timing pushes. Is that his new strategy?
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 15 2010 19:51 GMT
#82
He said specifically a new management style so no that isn't his new strategy
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 19:54:35
January 15 2010 19:53 GMT
#83
Flash will win: Jaedong, Zero, Stork, Bisu, fantasy

It's 50/50: Calm, Kwanro, Hwasin

Movie will win: Effort

Maps favor Protoss: Jaedong, Calm, fantasy

Maps are OK: Stork

On January 16 2010 04:50 lone_hydra wrote:
Hope Movie puts up more of a fight than Best. But honestly, Flash's last 4 TvPs wins are all timing pushes. Is that his new strategy?

His new strategy is called "rape".
May the BeSt man win.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 19:55:29
January 15 2010 19:55 GMT
#84
On January 16 2010 04:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He said specifically a new management style so no that isn't his new strategy


Just like Stork said he's got a revolutionary PvZ management build... in which he never showed.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 15 2010 19:56 GMT
#85
Right, which he obviously hasn't used yet

I don't see your point
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 20:06:02
January 15 2010 20:00 GMT
#86
On January 16 2010 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Right, which he obviously hasn't used yet

I don't see your point


My point is this, both Stork and Flash said they had new amazing management builds in PvZ and TvP, then they both go play like around 5 really important PvZs(OSL) and TvPs(Stork, Best) afterwards, and they never used anything new. Can you still sit there and honestly say they "obviously" have something new and never used it?
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 15 2010 20:02 GMT
#87
Dunno. But as for the most talented foreign player in history it goes to Kolll hands down. In 1 and a half years he's surpassed a lot of the best foreign players who've been playing for 10 years... What was it, from D to B+ in 6 months? And he's only 15. Jesus christ. IIRC, both JD and flash had been playing SC for about 2.5 years before they both broke out on the progaming scene.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
January 15 2010 20:02 GMT
#88
On January 16 2010 05:02 Warrior Madness wrote:
Dunno. But as for the most talented foreign player in history it goes to Kolll hands down. In 1 and a half years he's surpassed a lot of the best foreign players who've been playing for 10 years... What was it, from D to B+ in 6 months? And he's only 15. Jesus christ. IIRC, both JD and flash had been playing SC for about 2.5 years before they both broke out on the progaming scene.

Wrong thread?
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 15 2010 20:07 GMT
#89
On January 16 2010 05:00 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Right, which he obviously hasn't used yet

I don't see your point


My point is this, both Stork and Flash said they had new amazing management builds in PvZ and TvP, then they both go play like around 5 really important PvZs(OSL) and TvPs(Stork, Best) afterwards, and they never used anything new. Can you still sit there and honestly say they "obviously" have something new and never used it?
Of course Flash was saving it for the finals. Why would you show your hand before then? As for Stork, I don't know what's up with him.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 20:09:54
January 15 2010 20:09 GMT
#90
On January 16 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 03:36 Whiplash wrote:
I hope movie does some revolutionary PvT build; I wouldn't put it past him since he has his very cool and distinct han bang timing attack style vs zerg.

and what happened to Flash's new "TvP management revolution", is he saving it for the OSL finals or is he still working on it? I guess we'll see.

I said this in another thread: Flash's timing pushes may not seem revolutionary, but they're a direct counter against the greedy PvT builds of the last year or so. No longer can Toss get an early third and/or fourth without facing a much greater risk than before.

That alters the meta game. Just like the triple-expand in ZvP disappeared with the Bisu build, Movie has to play Flash non-greedily on even grounds or get run over playing like BeSt.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 15 2010 20:17 GMT
#91
I'll tell you what's up with the STX players- Kal has probably gone like 1000-0 on the OSL maps in practice, so they all just assume the maps are imba.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 15 2010 20:17 GMT
#92
On January 16 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 03:36 Whiplash wrote:
I hope movie does some revolutionary PvT build; I wouldn't put it past him since he has his very cool and distinct han bang timing attack style vs zerg.


I don't think he's the type to come up with any sort of revolutionary management style, like Stork or Bisu. Movie might do cute timing attacks and cheeses but that should be about it.'

Suddenly I'm reminded of Stork's claim that he has a revolutionary new PvZ style that he wanted to use against Kwanro but never got the chance. I wonder if we'll see that in PL

and what happened to Flash's new "TvP management revolution", is he saving it for the OSL finals or is he still working on it? I guess we'll see.



You don't consider Movie's PvZ revolutionary?
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 15 2010 20:46 GMT
#93
"(P)(P)Stork's Prediction
▲ (T)Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of (T)Okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with (T)Flash recently and his TvP is really (T)Really good.
3:0, maybe a 3:1"

T_T. >> << You can do it Movie! << >>
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psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
January 15 2010 20:59 GMT
#94
lol at Effort's prediction. I can understand wanting to support your teammate but if he wanted to make it look believable he should have called "3:2, maybe 3:1" instead of "3:0, maybe 3:1".
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 21:02:08
January 15 2010 21:01 GMT
#95
On January 16 2010 02:37 Zozma wrote:
Movie has still got nothing compared to Stork and Bisu. I don't know what you're talking about, but if there's someone for Protoss players to envy that would be Bisu, the best Protoss player of all time, right?

I dont debate about who is the best protoss. I just want to point that it's not impossible for Movie to win this OSL like Bisu won MSL against Savior and become a new Protoss main player. Also dont forget that Movie did what Bisu-Stork couldnt, he defeated Shine. And they most probably envy him about it. It's obviously.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 15 2010 21:24 GMT
#96
Lol, Stork is such a baller. He doesn't mind to say what everyone else must be thinking 3:0 for Flash is real possibility given that he rolled over BeSt. Given that Movie is not even close regarding PvT to BeSt and Stork he IS A HUGE UNDERDOG.

Moreover, I'm sure Flash is practicing with great PvT'ers like Stork, Stats, Violet maybe even Bisu or Kal (though he has his own semis but they are quite close with each other). I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to get also someone else to practice with just to learn how to play against different styles.

Now Movie have lots of opportunities but there are far fewer good TvP'ers these days than PvT'ers. The best he can do is to ask Really to practice with. Other choices are Skyhigh (who for sure is helping him), Iris (he hasn't been that hot lately). I also predict that he has been prcicing weird builds with Much (just like Stork did before facing Fantasy). Obviously Fantsy won't help im as he is a close friend of Flash.

The thing is that Flsh is friends with every top progamers while Movie is a rokie and he did not established that many relationship. And who wouldn't eant to practice with Flash given that he is the best player right now. Whoever he asks to practice with will agree unless the guy is from CJ or is practicing for his own games...
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 15 2010 21:25 GMT
#97
interesting. I want flash to win but im okay with movie winning :D
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 21:30:09
January 15 2010 21:29 GMT
#98
On January 16 2010 04:50 lone_hydra wrote:
Hope Movie puts up more of a fight than Best. But honestly, Flash's last 4 TvPs wins are all timing pushes. Is that his new strategy?


His new strategy is called "winning".

But on the series note, it wasn't supposed to be a new strategy but a new management style. I guess it will be sth less obvious that a new timing attack or so. Might be just a few tricks and changes to his style that allow him fare better against P.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
January 15 2010 21:31 GMT
#99
It seems like Bisu forgot the fact that he won on his first time against an invincible opponent as well XD
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 21:39:22
January 15 2010 21:33 GMT
#100
On January 16 2010 06:29 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 04:50 lone_hydra wrote:
Hope Movie puts up more of a fight than Best. But honestly, Flash's last 4 TvPs wins are all timing pushes. Is that his new strategy?


His new strategy is called "winning".

But on the series note, it wasn't supposed to be a new strategy but a new management style. I guess it will be sth less obvious that a new timing attack or so. Might be just a few tricks and changes to his style that allow him fare better against P.


Wraith/Flare obviously.

On January 16 2010 06:31 Empyrean wrote:
It seems like Bisu forgot the fact that he won on his first time against an invincible opponent as well XD


Flash is much more unpredictable right now than Savior was then. Flash is also very adaptable and is basically guaranteed to react well to any curveballs that Movie might throw --- unlike Savior who did the same thing three times in a row and basically just floundered against Bisu.

In the world of professional starcraft, anything can happen, but to the extent that anything is guaranteed, Flash is guaranteed to beat Movie. You can throw that statement in my face if Flash loses, but that's not going to happen.

May the BeSt man win.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 15 2010 21:33 GMT
#101
lol netizen comment.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 15 2010 21:33 GMT
#102
lol, gotta love effort supporting his teammate
yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
January 15 2010 21:35 GMT
#103
It's so ironic and funny reading Bisu's comments while recalling his victory over savior in very similar situation.
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 15 2010 21:40 GMT
#104
Hmm Flash for the win ez???
I Can Fly...
Neighbor
Profile Joined May 2009
United States119 Posts
January 15 2010 21:44 GMT
#105
Flash always has amazing practice partners. Leta/Fantasy for Gom S3 finals, JD for MSL semis, etc.

The kid has connections.
ZBusterZ
Profile Joined October 2009
Peru49 Posts
January 15 2010 21:45 GMT
#106
Go movie!!!
"the pain is tenmporary-the victory is forever"
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 15 2010 21:48 GMT
#107
There is a small chance that Movie will win. It is not unheard of. But if you look at the last 4 months it is hard to believe. Flash is a monster, playing in an unpredictable way, mixing different builds.

Just look at his games against Kwanro. What is poor Movie thinking now. Should he prepare for some cheesy strategy from Flash. Will he play to cautiously and Flash will abuse it. WTF will Flash do? That's the question I am asking myself and i'm sure Movie is as well. A month ago I would say Flash will play safe and go for macro games. But we have seen him cheesing a lot recently, using timing pushes, going for greedy builds.

But obviously this is starcraft and everything will happened. I will be worried about Flash as long as I don't see 3rd gg from Movie.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
January 15 2010 21:51 GMT
#108
FlaSh has practice partners, sure. But anyone ever stop and think that maybe Movie has practice partners too? Off the top of my head, I can think of Sea, FanTaSy, and MinD. If Movie has Sea.Really, the TvP juggernaut, to practice with, I can't imagine just how well the series is going to be.

And for those saying Jaedong is being a good sport even though FlaSh himself eliminated Jaedong, they've been good friends for a while. Just like Stork and Bisu, rivals in the booths, friends outside the booth.
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Huanir
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States85 Posts
January 15 2010 21:52 GMT
#109
On January 15 2010 21:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 18:41 Ozarugold wrote:
The netizen's comment completely made my day~

That Bisu didn't want to talk about mappools made mine.


QFT
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 21:57:03
January 15 2010 21:56 GMT
#110
On January 16 2010 06:51 SynC[gm] wrote:
FlaSh has practice partners, sure. But anyone ever stop and think that maybe Movie has practice partners too? Off the top of my head, I can think of Sea, FanTaSy, and MinD. If Movie has Sea.Really, the TvP juggernaut, to practice with, I can't imagine just how well the series is going to be.

And for those saying Jaedong is being a good sport even though FlaSh himself eliminated Jaedong, they've been good friends for a while. Just like Stork and Bisu, rivals in the booths, friends outside the booth.


Not Fantasy for sure. They are really close friends. And see what Fantasy said about Flash vs Movie
(T)fantasy's Prediction

▲ Since Flash has alot of experience in big stages and everything else, I think Flash will win. Sets 1 and 5 are both New Heartbreak Ridge, but Flash seems to prepare very well on that map so I think if he can take the first game he'll win 3:0. Flash is also good at abusing mind games so if he is able to break Movie down psychologically, I don't think Movie has a slight chance to win.
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
January 15 2010 22:31 GMT
#111
Om nom nom nom, ha ha.
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
January 15 2010 23:24 GMT
#112
nom
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
January 15 2010 23:31 GMT
#113
lol netizen!
at least Effort is supporting his teammate
the rest calling it 50:50 are being nice. i like movie and CJ but its Flash 3-1 or 3-2
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 15 2010 23:40 GMT
#114
LEGEND OF THE FALL! Let's go.
darkness overpowering
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 15 2010 23:46 GMT
#115
So (T)Flash will win according to: (Z)Jaedong, (P)Stork, (P)Bisu, (T)fantasy, (Z)ZerO, (P)Nal_rA, (P)Kingdom +1 OSL commentator

It is hard to say: (Z)Calm, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Hwasin

(P)Movie will win: (Z)EffOrt, Kim Carrier +1 other OSL commentator

Even (Z)Kwanro, who is close with (P)Movie just predicts 50:50.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
January 15 2010 23:54 GMT
#116
New revolutionary PvT build by movie COMING UP.
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
January 16 2010 00:14 GMT
#117
Movie is gonna give flash a new asshole, just you wait.
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
January 16 2010 00:41 GMT
#118
Not many people have faith in movie, but I really hope he proves everyone wrong (except effort) and does really well against flash!
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 00:56:24
January 16 2010 00:55 GMT
#119
Haha great angry netizen comment. I think Flash will take it but I'm rooting for Movie.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 16 2010 01:56 GMT
#120
Lets alll be honest here.... Movie should put up more of a fight than Jaedong did .
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 02:46:39
January 16 2010 02:45 GMT
#121
On January 16 2010 06:51 SynC[gm] wrote:
FlaSh has practice partners, sure. But anyone ever stop and think that maybe Movie has practice partners too? Off the top of my head, I can think of Sea, FanTaSy, and MinD. If Movie has Sea.Really, the TvP juggernaut, to practice with, I can't imagine just how well the series is going to be.

And for those saying Jaedong is being a good sport even though FlaSh himself eliminated Jaedong, they've been good friends for a while. Just like Stork and Bisu, rivals in the booths, friends outside the booth.

Fantasy and Flash are very close, even the KT coach loves Fantasy

Flash and Fantasy share TvP/TvZ/TvT strategies and practice with each other very often :x.

Flash is actually very close with many many people outside his team

(T)fantasy, (P)Kal, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)hero, (Z)ZerO, (P)Stork, most of STX's Zergs, (T)Leta, (T)Iris, (T)firebathero and so on and so forth

bisu and flash have a somewhat awkward relationship (no it doesn't have anything to do with the cheeses). But they respect each other highly
dats racist
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 02:52:07
January 16 2010 02:49 GMT
#122
Stork's Prediction
▲ Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with Flash recently and his TvP is really really good.3:0, maybe a 3:1

gg
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
January 16 2010 02:52 GMT
#123
I can't wait to see if Flash has his new TvP build ready.
POGGERS
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 04:25:48
January 16 2010 04:24 GMT
#124
He probably doesn't have a new build. I think he just likes fucking with peoples heads.

His bbs or other similar cheeses seem to always turn things in his favor.
#1 Kwanro Fan
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 04:36:45
January 16 2010 04:36 GMT
#125
Lol the Netizen thing was hilarious.
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
January 16 2010 04:39 GMT
#126
[image loading]


In case you couldn't see the image.
POGGERS
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 16 2010 04:43 GMT
#127
Hahhahaha love the included netizen comment lolol
what was the korean version of the comment?

and of course, huge thanks for these
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 16 2010 04:47 GMT
#128
택뱅리쌍 끼리ㅈㄹ한다 ㅅㅂ놈들 졸라빠니깐 맛잇니?>
dats racist
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 16 2010 04:51 GMT
#129
LOLOLOLolol haha nice
I don't mind them cheering each other on kkk rather cute
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
January 16 2010 06:24 GMT
#130
lol at effort
poor movie with only effort supporting him
flash fighting!!!
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
January 16 2010 06:32 GMT
#131
Bisu and fantasy both predicting a choke? very interesting...
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 06:36:38
January 16 2010 06:36 GMT
#132
On January 16 2010 15:32 Tha_Docta wrote:
Bisu and fantasy both predicting a choke? very interesting...

They are speaking from personal experience.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 16 2010 06:41 GMT
#133
Haha the best is the angry netizen... but it seems that Flash is overwhelmingly favoured. Movie is gonna have to roll up his socks and put his game face on....
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 16 2010 06:45 GMT
#134
On January 16 2010 15:36 Harem wrote:
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On January 16 2010 15:32 Tha_Docta wrote:
Bisu and fantasy both predicting a choke? very interesting...

They are speaking from personal experience.

Because Bisu choked hardcore when he was a rookie facing down Savior in the finals.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 16 2010 07:04 GMT
#135
psh. movie has no chance.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
January 16 2010 07:06 GMT
#136
Flash wins. =]
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 16 2010 07:18 GMT
#137
only person predicting movie's win is his teammate and the reasoning is "he's practicing really hard." looool
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 16 2010 07:27 GMT
#138
too bad they didnt ask any more CJ's point of view.
movie better ask Stork for the HBR replays
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 16 2010 07:30 GMT
#139
MrHoon /must have mixed up Bisu's and Stork's comments.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 16 2010 07:44 GMT
#140
hahahah the netizen comment are always the best

i really like the fantasy's prediction. if flash goes up 1:0 on HBR, hes gonna spank movie so hard
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 16 2010 12:44 GMT
#141
Angry Korean CJ Fan
HEY LOOK AT US, WE'RE TAEK BANG LEESSANG. OMNOMNOM WE'RE GUNNA SUCK EACH OTHER'S DICKS


Are we allowed to adapt this to TSL? Like team korea version
TAEK BANG LEESSANGRET IDRA NONY
or the german version
TAEK BANG LEESSANGHORROR KOLL MONDRAGON CLOSER GHOSTA INFERNAL
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 16 2010 13:55 GMT
#142
that netizen reply is just gold.
but i can see why jd wants flash to win this: he would have lost to the champion, + Show Spoiler +
and in his mind he already sees himself as the triumphant in the msl final *gggg*


"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 16 2010 15:06 GMT
#143
On January 15 2010 18:19 MrHoon wrote:
[image loading]


So it seems like Fomos did a bunch of interviews with other progamers and asked them to predict who will be winning the OSL finals. Fun translation, so have fun reading it

(Z)Jaedong's Prediction
▲ The maps are favored for Protoss in this OSL. However, I believe Flash will take this 3:1. There isn't a reason for it. I just wish Flash wins this OSL

(Z)Calm's Prediction
▲ I think the winner is 50:50. Although the maps are heavily favored for protoss, Movie's opponent is non other than Flash himself. I have no idea what will happen.

(Z)EffOrt's Prediction
▲ Movie will win with a score of 3:0, maybe a 3:1. I watched movie practice for this series and he's practicing really hard.

(Z)ZerO's Prediction
▲ Movie may be on fire, but this is Flash. The result will be with Flash's win. Because I am a Zerg user I won't be able to predict the score but Flash will win.

(Z)Kwanro's Prediction
▲ I don't think we should make rash predictions just yet. Both Flash and Movie have strengths so anything could happen. I guess this is around 50:50?

(P)Stork's Prediction
▲ Flash will win with a perfect score. Alot of people are saying Heartbreak Ridge is a heavily favored map for protoss, but New Heartbreak Ridge is sort of okay for Terran. Also, I practiced with Flash recently and his TvP is really really good.
3:0, maybe a 3:1

(P)Bisu's Prediction
▲ Flash will win. Just looking at Flash's current state tells us he will win. I don't know the stats for the map pools so I can't make out a score, but Flash has experience in BOXs while Movie is a rookie. Since this is his first final I think movie might get nervous and choke.

(T)fantasy's Prediction
▲ Since Flash has alot of experience in big stages and everything else, I think Flash will win. Sets 1 and 5 are both New Heartbreak Ridge, but Flash seems to prepare very well on that map so I think if he can take the first game he'll win 3:0. Flash is also good at abusing mind games so if he is able to break Movie down psychologically, I don't think Movie has a slight chance to win.

(T)Hwasin's Prediction
▲ I think it's 50:50. When you're playing at a finals game, one must always be calm and mentally stable. But when I saw Movie recently, I could see that he was very nervous. If Movie is able to play at a calm state and manner, this will be 50:50. But if Movie breaks under the pressure, Flash will win.


BONUS, Netizen Reply
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Angry Korean CJ Fan
HEY LOOK AT US, WE'RE TAEK BANG LEESSANG. OMNOMNOM WE'RE GUNNA SUCK EACH OTHER'S DICKS





Fomos Link


MrHoon Thanks so much for this!!!
Power is your Intelligence
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
January 16 2010 15:35 GMT
#144
damn Flash was practicing with Stork??? Thats so unfair
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
iliera
Profile Joined January 2010
Estonia78 Posts
January 16 2010 15:50 GMT
#145
movie is superb player but his PvT is pretty bad...
although i'm hoping for movie to win, it's gonna be really hard..
would be superawesome if movie won tho, go movie!!!
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
January 17 2010 00:14 GMT
#146
On January 17 2010 00:35 Kuzmorgo wrote:
damn (T)Flash was practicing with (P)Stork??? Thats so unfair


Yeah Haha, I hope (P)Movie has a super good TvP practice partner (ie not (T)sKyHigh/(T)Iris). (T)Really would be the man to practice with.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
January 17 2010 00:23 GMT
#147
lol all the cj players saying movie has a chance

you dont!
the throws never bothered me anyway
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 17 2010 18:14 GMT
#148
Effort almost got it right
+ Show Spoiler +
not!


Stork was goddamn right. Flash has amazing TvP. I hope it will stop people from saying that Flash is weak against Protoss.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 17 2010 19:34 GMT
#149
You know when people say weak we only mean possibly human.


I mean seriously? You're going to tell me his TvZ and TvT aren't godlike? Flash TvP is like JD's TvZ.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
January 18 2010 06:43 GMT
#150
looks like jaedong got it right
Cyrox
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden147 Posts
January 20 2010 02:23 GMT
#151
JD called it 3:1 oh schnapz.
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
January 21 2010 05:55 GMT
#152
Goes to show you how good JD is. The other players were saying either it wasn't their race or they didn't know the map stats except for Jaedong. He can accurately gouge the skills of players when they are not his main races, and he keeps up with the map stats.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 21 2010 06:00 GMT
#153
there's JD fanboyism, and then there's the above post
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 21 2010 06:05 GMT
#154
On January 21 2010 15:00 Kyuukyuu wrote:
there's JD fanboyism, and then there's the above post

rofl....so funny but so painful. that's the kind of post that gives jd fanboys a bad name
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
January 21 2010 06:13 GMT
#155
Most people agreed that with Flash's level of dominance, it was going to be a 3:0 or 3:1, JD picked the right one. Congrats.
6581
timmeh
Profile Joined September 2009
Austria177 Posts
January 21 2010 06:19 GMT
#156
On January 21 2010 14:55 Disastorm wrote:
Goes to show you how good JD is. The other players were saying either it wasn't their race or they didn't know the map stats except for Jaedong. He can accurately gouge the skills of players when they are not his main races, and he keeps up with the map stats.


yes, because it took a triple OSL Champion to see that Flash was gonna win this and how he was gonna win this on apparently P-favoured maps :/
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