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+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys, the update and news that a whole lot of people in TL are waiting for is FINALLY here!!!! I hereby introduce our main and most informative source of information regarding the first ever low level rank TL-community Starleague that is up and running to be all included in this thread. Introducing...... the Novice Starleague News and Announcement Center!! **What is NSL you ask? Well oh boy, you sure have been missing out and living under a rock for the past weeks on the broodwar thread in TL as all the info can be obtained on here!! (not repeating myself again explaining)**
Eight news/announcement (2/18/10):
Hello hello! Long time no update! I have been sick with a flu for 2 weeks, caught up with finishing my 15 page paper, places to go and people to do, and etc. But now I am back! So to recap and bring back all results and past, here it is starting from the oldest to most recent updates:
NSL Ro16 Group Selections
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+ Show Spoiler [Older News/announcements] +Seventh news/announcement (1/20/10):+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys, I made a separate thread regarding NSL Qualifier Round located here. So anything related or questions toward QR should be addressed there rather than here. Thanks! Also, the qualifier round is THIS WEEK! So prepare yourselves and good luck!!! O-ops will take charge of Thursday's round and I will be around for Friday's round, so best of luck! Hey guys, sorry for my lack of appearance the past few days. I've been overused, enslaved and became what was "Child Labor Terran" like Flash was a year ago except the fact it's real life business and not Starcraft. In any case, as everyone should realize and know, the NSL #1 Qualifier Round brackets are finally up!!! They are on the second post of this thread where my co-host, O-ops, was able to create a pretty neat and nice system of organizing... but in case you are lazy and cannot scroll down to the second post of this thread, here's a link. Now that you know the rules for the Qualifier (located on the spoiler section of Qualifier), who you're playing against, the maps, and the times (listed with the date on the spoiler section of Qualifier), I think you guys are all set and ready to go to start and kickoff our grand tourney of Novice Starleague!!! So I hope to see you all next week when this finally begins!! (If you don't.... well, you automatically fail and lose....  )
Due to a lack of response from my co-host the past few days, the following groups for the Qualifier Rounds were not yet finalized and wasn't able to have a real FINAL list of people playing. The list below on my first post isn't the final FINAL list which means there were some more changes. But since my co-host has the real final list, I cannot organize the list myself yet. It has seem he's busy or something has happened to him for being MIA so therefore, I decided that I will organize the groups for the Qualifier Round myself.
However time is lacking at the moment with the supposed Qualifier Round date of this Thursday and Friday. With such short notice and time, I hereby postpone the Qualifier Round for another week making the round happen on the following Thursdays and Friday. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may follow and I understand if you cannot take part of the first NSL due to these short notice changes. Thank you.
Alright guys since people are very confused and lack of spending time to read on the posts, I will make this simple and clear: MAP POOL FOR QUALIFIER ROUND =/= MAP POOL for the rest of NSL....
The Official Map Pool for NSL #1 (which EXCLUDES the Qualifier Round) are as follows:
1. Destination
2. Heartbreak Ridge
3. Fighting Spirit
4. Match Point
5. Outsider SE
The official map pool for Qualifier Round: click on the spoiler on QR format rules....
Thanks and stay tune for your group assignments very soon!
Alright, as I have gotten pretty much absolutely no objections regarding the maps to be used in the Qualifier Round next week, they are now 100% official. So that means for all participants, please start practicing for them as you will start next week on either Thursday or Friday of next week.
My co-host wasn't able to organize in time to give me the 6 groups that will play on Thursday and the other 6 groups on Friday, so stay tune for that sometime this weekend of who you will play and when. But honestly, if you said Thursday on the signup, 99.9% chances are you got the Thursday one, and 99.9% chances for Friday while the "both" people will just fill in gap to make up the split.
Finally some people have PM me for the fact that they can't make it due to time but remember that these "8 PM EST, 5 PM PST" were SET TIME from the very beginning of the sign up thread. So for those of you who said you can't make it, you will still be counted in the Qualifier Round and if you don't show up, you'll just get a bye within 30 minutes of your assigned time.... (as prediction is 30 minutes per game unless you cheez yourself away in 5 minutes...)
That is all and I have "copy and paste" the assumed final list that O-ops put up on the other thread on the first post of this thread. Good luck and start preparing!!!
NSL #1 Qualifier Round format:
+ Show Spoiler +NSL #1 Qualifier Round:Date: January 21, 2010 OR January 22, 2010 (determined by preferred dates from application) Time: Starting at 8:00 PM EST (5:00 PM PST) Where: Iccup channel "op NSL" Total Number of Players: 72 Players Total Number Advancing to Ro36: Exactly 36 PlayersMaps: First Phase (Bo1): Match PointSecond Phase (3 way Round Robin): DestinationThird Phase (optional 3 way FFA - Bo1): NeomedusaFourth Phase (optional #2 vs #3 on top 3 - Bo1): Lost Temple (dead serious) Final Phase (#3 from top 3 vs #1 from bottom 3 - Bo1): Heartbreak RidgeFormat (now the big guns!): In order to create a fair and fun environment from the very start of the league within this bloody qualifiers, my staff team and I was able to formulate an unique system in order to advance into the Round of 36 which is the next round. First off, as this is the first NSL ever, the overall format for NSL is the OSL style where in the Ro36, you end up with "12 seeds" of Ro36 which are fought off in Ro24. Therefore, after a few hours of trial and error, combining equations and using engineering skills, I present to you the answer to all questions regarding the format: In an assumption of 72 players, there will be 12 groups of 6 players. Each group will have 6 players where the first step will be a Bo1 separating the top 3 from the bottom 3. Then the fun starts there... [Note: ONLY 3 PLAYERS WILL ADVANCE FROM EACH GROUP NO MATTER WHAT!!]The top 3 AND the bottom 3 will then go into a 3 way "round robin" battle. Starting from the top 3, the first place or #1 of the top 3 in this second phase will automatically ascend and advance to the Ro36 along with the RO36 SEED. They will obtain this automatically by showing superiority over all the other 5 players in their group by advancing first. The second place or #2 of the top 3 will also automatically advance to the Ro36 but without the Seed given, meaning that they will have to fight off an opponent before the Ro36 Seed player in order to make it to the next step; which is the Group Selections/Ro16. They advance but they will have to play an extra opponent during the Ro36 stage. The third place or the #3 of the top 3 will be dropped down and await for his/her second and final chance to advance out of the group as the bottom 3 that lost in the initial Bo1 match at the start will have a round robin battle as mentioned. The winner of this "bottom round robin" will then advance up to face in the final battle against the third place player of the top 3. So thus, the initial losing player may have a second chance to advance out of this qualifier round alive. Both players will start face will in one final epic Bo1 battle to decide final candidate. Winner of this last battle will advance to the final spot of Ro36 stage. [FAQ: What if the round robin results into a 3 way tie?!?]In an event like this (as we have also put this into our plans), an optional Bo1 special 3-way FFA tie-breaker match will occur that will take place on either the top 3 or the bottom 3 round robin. In the case of the bottom 3, only the winner of these 3 players will advance to the final battle against the #3 player of the top 3. However, in the case of the top 3 players tie, the winner of the FFA will announce itself as #1 of the top 3 and follows the rules above by advancing to the Ro36 with a seed. The 2 remaining players of the top 3 will have a special Bo1 match to settle things of who is #2 and #3 of their small group to respectively part ways as according to the rules above; where #2 advances with no seed, #3 faces off the winner of bottom 3. A brief overview of Qualifier Round format. Image credit goes to Zozma! This concludes the fixed new format of the NSL #1 Qualifier Round which may possibly be used in the future NSL Qualifier Rounds as well.
For any future questions, comments, suggestions, feedback or anything, please contact/PM me (QuickStriker), or the other official staff, O-ops! Thank you!
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*****UPDATE******
Sorry for being late with the results. Here is the Thursday Qualifier results and standings:
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I forgot to actually mark the number, so sorry about that :/. Anyway, the first on the table is first seed, the second on the table finished second, and third for last.
I moved Zeep and Bears down to group 6, since that group still has 2 slots left for winners' round robin (only one guy showed up lol), and had them played there.
There are only 3 players for each groups in the standing because only 3 showed up for each groups. I had them played round robin just to determine seed; all of them qualified for just showing up ;/
Here is the groupings for Thursday ro36:
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I do not have Friday's groups set up yet; heck, i just got the results from Striker. The guy is still sick as hell; it's very possible that i will have to delay Friday's groups for yet ANOTHER week In any case, i should be able to run the Thursday group this week, so be ready.
I will post Friday's qualifier results, standings, and groupings as soon as i can. Striker did not record the results for individual matches however, so it's gonna be very vague.
Again, sorry for the delay.
*****UPDATE******
Friday standings
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Quickstriker did not record the score for each match, so i can't post them. Sorry :/
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Will this thread be the main place for all things NSL related?
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God that qualifier is just -_-
Why didn’t you guys just make it groups of 6 and every body plays everybody, WCG style, its easier to track and manage and also if you lose the first game it doesn’t mean you are at a massive disadvantage like with this
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On January 05 2010 22:45 Scaramanga wrote:
God that qualifier is just -_-
Why didn’t you guys just make it groups of 6 and every body plays everybody, WCG style, its easier to track and manage and also if you lose the first game it doesn’t mean you are at a massive disadvantage like with this
I agree. group of 6 where everyone play each other would be better. (imo)
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On January 05 2010 22:45 Scaramanga wrote:
God that qualifier is just -_-
Why didn’t you guys just make it groups of 6 and every body plays everybody, WCG style, its easier to track and manage and also if you lose the first game it doesn’t mean you are at a massive disadvantage like with this
Because this way is more fun, less games to be play technically (to advance as #1, you ideally need 3 games, and 4 games for the other 2) to advance, and has its own unique system that we devised. Besides, qualifier is SUPPOSE to be hardcore weed-out style and I didn't want just a random 6 way round robin. This format that I laid out has its strengths and weaknesses but it's much more favorable and interesting than some boring 6 people WCG style.
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On January 05 2010 22:38 iCCup.deL wrote:
Will this thread be the main place for all things NSL related?
Oh and yes, this will be the new information thread for all things regarding NSL related.... the signup thread will slowly fade away soon after the final list of players are formed......
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you must contact me for streams and caster positions however.
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Weeeeeeehooooooooo can't waieeeet!!!!
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On January 06 2010 04:30 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2010 22:45 Scaramanga wrote:
God that qualifier is just -_-
Why didn’t you guys just make it groups of 6 and every body plays everybody, WCG style, its easier to track and manage and also if you lose the first game it doesn’t mean you are at a massive disadvantage like with this
Because this way is more fun, less games to be play technically (to advance as #1, you ideally need 3 games, and 4 games for the other 2) to advance, and has its own unique system that we devised. Besides, qualifier is SUPPOSE to be hardcore weed-out style and I didn't want just a random 6 way round robin. This format that I laid out has its strengths and weaknesses but it's much more favorable and interesting than some boring 6 people WCG style.
So you have a bo1, what if theres two D+ that play each other then theres 4 D's that play each other, the D+ is put into a shitty position due to losing against best person in his group, dosen't mean he deserves to be in the bottom three
Edit: Its funner for the players if they don't get fucked over after one game
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What's the point of playing a Novice league when everyone not a solid D+ gets 'weed out hardcore'?
I don't get it.
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On January 06 2010 09:44 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2010 04:30 QuickStriker wrote:On January 05 2010 22:45 Scaramanga wrote:
God that qualifier is just -_-
Why didn’t you guys just make it groups of 6 and every body plays everybody, WCG style, its easier to track and manage and also if you lose the first game it doesn’t mean you are at a massive disadvantage like with this
Because this way is more fun, less games to be play technically (to advance as #1, you ideally need 3 games, and 4 games for the other 2) to advance, and has its own unique system that we devised. Besides, qualifier is SUPPOSE to be hardcore weed-out style and I didn't want just a random 6 way round robin. This format that I laid out has its strengths and weaknesses but it's much more favorable and interesting than some boring 6 people WCG style. So you have a bo1, what if theres two D+ that play each other then theres 4 D's that play each other, the D+ is put into a shitty position due to losing against best person in his group, dosen't mean he deserves to be in the bottom three Edit: Its funner for the players if they don't get fucked over after one game
If that happens, the D+ will rape the loser group and proceed to rape the poor soul who's at the bottom of the winner trio.
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Since the groups are randomized, i think this is a good power-protected format that allows the losers of the first stage a second chance. It is most likely that if someone upsets, he will be place in a group with stronger than he is, while the one who got upset-ed will be place in a group with weaker players than he is. This results in both of them having a rematch, with the stronger one advances.
This is under the assumption that upsets would rarely happens, however.
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Look, it's the qualifier, have you ever seen in the real OSL or MSL offline preliminaries where the best players always go through successfully?? Look at sAviOr, as hardest as he tried, he didn't made it past this round DESPITE the fact the other players were weaker and lesser than him. Does that mean he sucks? No, it just mean the other guys prepared really hard. NaDa is another example, also BoxeR and I can go on and on. This NSL Qualifier format that I formalized is done through carefully thinking and unique in its own way.
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On January 06 2010 09:52 Glaucus wrote:
What's the point of playing a Novice league when everyone not a solid D+ gets 'weed out hardcore'?
I don't get it.
While i wouldn't say "weed out hardcore", the point of the qualifier is so that the stronger players get in while the weaker players get out no?
Edit: If you can pulled a cheese at least twice, once in stage one and one in round robin, i think you have a pretty decent shot of making it to ro36. While i'm not saying this is easy, i think it's a bit easier than the single elim bo3/bo5 format in the osl offline prelim no?
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It seems a bit unfair that you get a 0-1 handicap even once making #1 in the bottom 3 and will struggle to advance just because of losing a single BO1 at the beginning. I like the idea of having groups of 3 as with all the different timezones and whatnot having 5 games all at once might be hard to organise but too much weighting is put on the first BO1s.
Why not just remove the 1-0 lead for #3 over #1 of the lower group. It seems you put it in place to make it 'fair' but instead you are giving two wins for that original BO1 win when the #3 of the top group will probably go 0-2 in his group and the bottom leader go 2-0. This seems like he has put in enough effort doesn't it? The bottom player will have already proved themselves by winning twice in the lower section while the guy he is playing off against only won the first BO1 and probably none after that. Just seems really weird to give him a 1-0 lead as like I said all things even he is getting two wins for that single BO1 win.
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On January 06 2010 16:38 iCCup.deL wrote:
It seems a bit unfair that you get a 0-1 handicap even once making #1 in the bottom 3 and will struggle to advance just because of losing a single BO1 at the beginning. I like the idea of having groups of 3 as with all the different timezones and whatnot having 5 games all at once might be hard to organise but too much weighting is put on the first BO1s.
Why not just remove the 1-0 lead for #3 over #1 of the lower group. It seems you put it in place to make it 'fair' but instead you are giving two wins for that original BO1 win when the #3 of the top group will probably go 0-2 in his group and the bottom leader go 2-0. This seems like he has put in enough effort doesn't it? The bottom player will have already proved themselves by winning twice in the lower section while the guy he is playing off against only won the first BO1 and probably none after that. Just seems really weird to give him a 1-0 lead as like I said all things even he is getting two wins for that single BO1 win.
Well... yea you're right... I originally planned it without the 1-0 lead for #3 over #1 of the lower group since my co-host stated to me that it's fair and understandable for it to be this way. But then again, your logic sounds more acceptable and I agree with what you are saying. Harder to keep track like this too so by tomorrow, I'll make the final call after discussing this with o-ops or he can post his reasoning on this thread before I do too in order for he to make his claim. And more voices and opinions would be nice regarding this. Thanks.
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YESSSSSSSSSS. 72 players is the best thing i ever heard in ages 
i'm seeded 71 (in terms of app) so i'm INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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=( can't believe I have to withdraw. There'll be another one right? Sign me up for that one!
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On January 06 2010 23:35 NguN wrote:
=( can't believe I have to withdraw. There'll be another one right? Sign me up for that one!
There will be a whole new NSL coming up when this first NSL ends.... though a 2-3 week break is expected in between.... the NSL #2 will be in a different format of "MSL" style. I wish you luck and see ya then!
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A few questions.
1) What is the map pool?
2) When are the groups selected?
3) When do we know who our first bo1 is?
4) When is the first game.
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4) January 14 OR January 15 @ 8:00PM Eastern time (02:00CET)
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This format seems terrible and unorganized.
Your posts show your inability to be objective and determine the best format for the participants and instead are just going on your own preference of what is "boring."
There is a reason WCG-style groups are used; they are fair.
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Iono about you but I like this format :O
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On January 07 2010 06:40 AwarE-- wrote:
This format seems terrible and unorganized.
Your posts show your inability to be objective and determine the best format for the participants and instead are just going on your own preference of what is "boring."
There is a reason WCG-style groups are used; they are fair.
There's a reason why this new format is going to be used; it's original, gives NSL its own unique form rather than copy and paste like other tourneys, and less boring than "o look, geez, a round robin to decide everything...." Maybe OSL and MSL should have WCG-style groups for Offline Preliminaries then..
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Updated the map pool for Qualifier Round!!!! Any questions, or forever hold your peace in the next hours to come where this is FINAL decision by midnight...
On January 07 2010 05:54 BlackMesa wrote:
A few questions.
1) What is the map pool?
2) When are the groups selected?
3) When do we know who our first bo1 is?
4) When is the first game.
1. Just updated map pool so check it out and start practicing....
2. Groups will be selected VERY SOON (within 2-3 days depending on when he finishes the final list..)
3. Read #2...
4. Next week, January 14th and January 15th, depending on what you get from your assigned group which you'll wait for answer for #2.
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On January 07 2010 09:23 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 06:40 AwarE-- wrote:
This format seems terrible and unorganized.
Your posts show your inability to be objective and determine the best format for the participants and instead are just going on your own preference of what is "boring."
There is a reason WCG-style groups are used; they are fair. There's a reason why this new format is going to be used; it's original, gives NSL its own unique form rather than copy and paste like other tourneys, and less boring than "o look, geez, a round robin to decide everything...." Maybe OSL and MSL should have WCG-style groups for Offline Preliminaries then..
At least OSL and MSL offlines don't screw over the players if the lose one bo1 -_-
Original dosen't mean its a good thing, theres a reason that different tourneys use the same or similar system, its fair
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On January 07 2010 09:44 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 09:23 QuickStriker wrote:On January 07 2010 06:40 AwarE-- wrote:
This format seems terrible and unorganized.
Your posts show your inability to be objective and determine the best format for the participants and instead are just going on your own preference of what is "boring."
There is a reason WCG-style groups are used; they are fair. There's a reason why this new format is going to be used; it's original, gives NSL its own unique form rather than copy and paste like other tourneys, and less boring than "o look, geez, a round robin to decide everything...." Maybe OSL and MSL should have WCG-style groups for Offline Preliminaries then.. At least OSL and MSL offlines don't screw over the players if the lose one bo1 -_- Original dosen't mean its a good thing, theres a reason that different tourneys use the same or similar system, its fair
This has its fairness in its own way. Originally the whole "second chance" things wasn't thought out. As for OSL and MSL, you do get screw over if you lose a match against one single opponent; because it's elimination round. And in there, only one person out of 8 people or so can qualify. At last here, it's 3 out of every 6.
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I think this sounds really reasonable... We have lots of different skill levels (at least for us D-/D+ is a big gap). And this doesn't punish the D/D- players, while at the same time it still obv gives an advantage to the stronger players.
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One problem is the Matchpoint map doesn't have a obs version... at least the iCCup map
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On January 08 2010 06:22 Nub4ever wrote:One problem is the Matchpoint map doesn't have a obs version... at least the iCCup map
Yes it does >.>. I just played on it's obs version several times. Try downloading manually if its not in the pack 
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You can find Match Point obs version in CPL mappack :d
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LT is there for a reason?
What reason?
Otherwise looks alright so far.
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We should have a channel that all the NSL people can meet and practice together in :D like op NSL or something before it starts!
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Third news/announcement (1/8/10):
Alright, as I have gotten pretty much absolutely no objections regarding the maps to be used in the Qualifier Round next week, they are now 100% official. So that means for all participants, please start practicing for them as you will start next week on either Thursday or Friday of next week.
My co-host wasn't able to organize in time to give me the 6 groups that will play on Thursday and the other 6 groups on Friday, so stay tune for that sometime this weekend of who you will play and when. But honestly, if you said Thursday on the signup, 99.9% chances are you got the Thursday one, and 99.9% chances for Friday while the "both" people will just fill in gap to make up the split.
Finally some people have PM me for the fact that they can't make it due to time but remember that these "8 PM EST, 5 PM PST" were SET TIME from the very beginning of the sign up thread. So for those of you who said you can't make it, you will still be counted in the Qualifier Round and if you don't show up, you'll just get a bye within 30 minutes of your assigned time.... (as prediction is 30 minutes per game unless you cheez yourself away in 5 minutes...)
That is all and I have "copy and paste" the assumed final list that O-ops put up on the other thread on the first post of this thread. Good luck and start preparing!!!
Now for any further questions...
On January 08 2010 07:08 numLoCK wrote:
LT is there for a reason?
What reason?
Otherwise looks alright so far.
That's a secret! ^_^
On January 08 2010 07:54 Nub4ever wrote:
We should have a channel that all the NSL people can meet and practice together in :D like op NSL or something before it starts!
Yep, that will be the official channel for all rounds of NSL so go ahead and gather up beforehand to find similar people like you! ^_^
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QuickStriker! I pm'd you not sure if you read it but I was wondering if I could change my playing account from 524U to NSL-lucas?
And wondering when the brackets/groups will be up? ^^
Thanks
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On January 09 2010 05:50 some2else1 wrote:
QuickStriker! I pm'd you not sure if you read it but I was wondering if I could change my playing account from 524U to NSL-lucas?
And wondering when the brackets/groups will be up? ^^
Thanks
I read that, just in case, PM o-ops, my co-host since he's the one filing and organizing the list. But if any case, you should be fine though PM for safety.
The brackets/groups would hopefully be up sometime in the weekend or Monday at the latest.....
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No one's every in the channel ='( and nooooo thread don't dieee!
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Having the BO1 on such an imba map is kinda lame. Fair enough if it is in a BO3 where loser picks next map or w/e but this way you are really helping lots of Ts qualify.
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Australia7069 Posts
Lost temple inclusion obviously means you or someone you know plays T and you want them to qualify. Why bother making a tournament if you're going to include a map that stupid. Everyone needs to get over the brackets and start making some noise about this terrible terrible map choice. Theres a reason people dont play it anymore. Sure its only a novice league, but thats no reason to put in stupid maps. If you're going to do that, why not throw in a FASTEST MONEY MAP BY GURL GUILD or something retarded like that as well. Hell we could just play turret wars UMS. OP needs to change this or its gonna cause a stink when useless terrans qualify due to map imbalances.
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Wow I didn't notice LT there... yeah stupid map pool I thought Outsider got voted in?
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I was wondering if i could offrace terran if i play on lt?
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On January 10 2010 09:28 TheAntZ wrote:
I was wondering if i could offrace terran if i play on lt?
Hahahaha.
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Sorry just wondering with LT that imba is it all due to the cliff's over the nat and the free expo for T?
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On January 10 2010 09:28 TheAntZ wrote:
I was wondering if i could offrace terran if i play on lt?
was thinking the same
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This is why I gave an entire 2 days regarding the map pools for the qualifier round if anyone has objections, and what did I get the past 2 days in between second and third news? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I had no objections whatsoever and 2 days later, I said "since no one wants have any objections.." I went ahead and made the QUALIFIER ROUND MAP POOL 100% confirmed official. Then days after that announcement people are now calling imba and stuff. Time people time, keep up with your times....
Another thing, the map pool in the qualifier round =/= map pool for the rest of the tourney. The map pool for the NSL #1 tourney that excludes the qualifier round (due to medusa/LT) are the 5 most picked and chosen maps you people have voted...
Lastly, please read the qualifier round format and rules. The LT map IS NOT PLAYED unless a. the TOP 3 people of a group got a 3 way tie in the round robin b. you do the 3 way ffa battle and you don't get #1 where the remaining 2 people will be picked to play on LT
Oh, if you looked at the # of races in the list, there are seriously like 49.5% zerg, 49.5% protoss and 1% terran out of the list... so chances are, you will fight either a zerg or toss if the LT comes down to it...
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Another thing, you guys are all D- to D+ ranks, map imbas and all that crap doesn't effect you one's play because you guys simply can't use the exploit to its max advantage like all other high ranking players does. Especially progamers where they make it their right to abuse some things to win. I know I can't use the map to its advantage because I'm a D ranking too. So if you really know how to use LT to your advantage 100% or your opponent does, then congrats, you should be a C level then.
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Considering the tournament hasn't started yet, and map change isn't a huge inconvenience. Maybe make a poll about it, but i'm pretty sure only the 1% terrans want LT. Maybe its someone you know???
Anyways some people go away over christmas/new year and hence missed the special 2 day window you had for map selection.
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lol, i'm not even sure i have lt, but i'm terran so i support this blindly.
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What happened to Outsider? O_O
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On January 10 2010 13:26 Kiante wrote:
Considering the tournament hasn't started yet, and map change isn't a huge inconvenience. Maybe make a poll about it, but i'm pretty sure only the 1% terrans want LT. Maybe its someone you know???
Anyways some people go away over christmas/new year and hence missed the special 2 day window you had for map selection.
It was actually like 1/6 to 1/8 if you followed the updates.... which is AFTER vacation...
On January 10 2010 13:53 ReketSomething wrote:
What happened to Outsider? O_O
Repeating myself once more:
Another thing, the map pool in the qualifier round =/= map pool for the rest of the tourney. The map pool for the NSL #1 tourney that excludes the qualifier round (due to medusa/LT) are the 5 most picked and chosen maps you people have voted...
In order words, since Outsider was voted #5, it's automatically picked as map pool for rest of tourney... sighs... read carefully next time...
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Update on OP:
Fourth news/announcement (1/10/10):
Alright guys since people are very confused and lack of spending time to read on the posts, I will make this simple and clear: MAP POOL FOR QUALIFIER ROUND =/= MAP POOL for the rest of NSL....
The Official Map Pool for NSL #1 (which EXCLUDES the Qualifier Round) are as follows:
1. Destination
2. Heartbreak Ridge
3. Fighting Spirit
4. Match Point
5. Outsider SE
The official map pool for Qualifier Round: click on the spoiler on QR format rules....
Thanks and stay tune for your group assignments very soon!
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On January 10 2010 13:26 Kiante wrote:
Considering the tournament hasn't started yet, and map change isn't a huge inconvenience. Maybe make a poll about it, but i'm pretty sure only the 1% terrans want LT. Maybe its someone you know???
Anyways some people go away over christmas/new year and hence missed the special 2 day window you had for map selection.
Ooor quickstriker wants some terrans in the NSL not just a bunch of ZvZ PvZ and PvPs
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sooooooooooo it's true I will be able to offrace with T in LT? I've started practicing TvT on it with my clanmate ^^
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can we offrace in the case at all? because i strongly dislike TvT...
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Lastly, please read the qualifier round format and rules. The LT map IS NOT PLAYED unless a. the TOP 3 people of a group got a 3 way tie in the round robin b. you do the 3 way ffa battle and you don't get #1 where the remaining 2 people will be picked to play on LT
[FAQ: What if the round robin results into a 3 way tie?!?]
In an event like this (as we have also put this into our plans), an optional Bo1 special 3-way FFA tie-breaker match will occur that will take place on either the top 3 or the bottom 3 round robin. In the case of the bottom 3, only the winner of these 3 players will advance to the final battle against the #3 player of the top 3.
However, in the case of the top 3 players tie, the winner of the FFA will announce itself as #1 of the top 3 and follows the rules above by advancing to the Ro36 with a seed. The 2 remaining players of the top 3 will have a special Bo1 match to settle things of who is #2 and #3 of their small group to respectively part ways as according to the rules above; where #2 advances with no seed, #3 faces off the winner of bottom 3.
If you ask me, offracing b/c of one POSSIBLE event that could or could not happen (which is the 3 way tie in round robin section IN THE TOP 3) where if it does happen, LT happens but that's also if you are placed #2 or #3 is all completely stupid. Do you people even know the possibility and chances of this happening? All of you sound like EVERYONE HAVE TO PLAY LT 100%.... god, read what I quote again and dare to post again.
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I personally think LT was a bad choice but it's the organizers call, anyone who claims he wants a Terran friend to get through is just laughable. You act like LT is an automatic loss for any player against Terran.
In related news, myself, MrWinkles, and Whiplash practiced casting last night and testing Mystlord's stream for lag - there were minimal problems (except with Ventrilo, so we had to use Skype) and no lag. Personally I had a great time casting with these guys, we figured out an effective method of working together and I think it will be very enjoyable . You can see the casting thread here.
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Can you please get the groups posted? I need to make sure I have that night free, that gets harder to do the closer we get.
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On January 11 2010 11:12 SpiritWolf wrote:
Can you please get the groups posted? I need to make sure I have that night free, that gets harder to do the closer we get.
The groups will be posted very soon, most likely sometime tomorrow.... if you said Thursday as your preferred day, 98% chances, you'll get Thursday at 8 PM EST (5 PM PST) and same thing for Friday. All groups start at the same time and all so if anything, have that in mind.
1. Sign ups were closed like 3 weeks ago... where you been seriously?
2. You were a B- 2 seasons ago....
3. I know you aren't a D- user from my previous knowledge. Smurfers/abusers aren't allowed...
4. Troll?
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NVM I'm just blind and crazy but yeh I hope my games are on Friday :D
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littlechava READ THE RULES
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1. Sign ups were closed like 3 weeks ago... where you been seriously?
3. I know you aren't a CPU user from my previous knowledge. Smurfers/abusers aren't allowed...
4. Troll?
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i'm not sure whats wrong????
i'm e rank...
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On January 11 2010 15:47 littlechava wrote:
i'm not sure whats wrong????
i'm e rank...
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107795
Notice who's one of the 3 coaches there.... CPL coaches are not D rank players, they are at least C rank....
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97834
Click on the "sign up players" where you will see #14 on the list who is littlechava under the account "Koala[Shock]" and then go back to his iccup link he posted few posts ago on this thread....
1. Sign ups were closed like 3 weeks ago... where you been seriously?
3. I know you ARE aren't a CPU D at least C rank from my previous knowledge. Smurfers/abusers aren't allowed...
4. Troll?
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quickstriker is such a sleuth
you aren't in the same league as him littlechava
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When do we know what race we are playing vs.? Need to practice for that very first bo1...
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but im e rank now
so when is my match?
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So o-ops made a post in the other thread about finding some one to fill the missing spot and i pm'd him about it, he said i got the spot but i dont see my self on the list, I kinda wanna know if im in or not since i have been practicing, and i got work friday. I want to be able to play and im not for sure if im in. o-ops didnt respond to my last pm so im confused.
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On January 11 2010 16:59 PhailSoBaller wrote:
So o-ops made a post in the other thread about finding some one to fill the missing spot and i pm'd him about it, he said i got the spot but i dont see my self on the list, I kinda wanna know if im in or not since i have been practicing, and i got work friday. I want to be able to play and im not for sure if im in. o-ops didnt respond to my last pm so im confused.
sorry ur not in, i'm in, he told me tonight
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i'm in. i saw my name on the list!
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We should start earlier not 5pm PST. The reason is that: 5pm PST = 2am CET = 3am EET, and I'm not really up to wake up 3 am to play ;/. I don't think anyone else in europe is up for it too. We could adjust playing times between opponents individually imo.
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On January 11 2010 17:15 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 16:59 PhailSoBaller wrote:
So o-ops made a post in the other thread about finding some one to fill the missing spot and i pm'd him about it, he said i got the spot but i dont see my self on the list, I kinda wanna know if im in or not since i have been practicing, and i got work friday. I want to be able to play and im not for sure if im in. o-ops didnt respond to my last pm so im confused. sorry ur not in, i'm in, he told me tonight
He told you tonight? As in the future? So in the future he tells you that your in. Wicked awesome
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On January 12 2010 06:34 FaCE_1 wrote:
no group up yet ??
He said it'll probably be up today...
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not up =(
i wanna pwn D+ gamers!
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Fifth news/announcement (1/12/10):
Due to a lack of response from my co-host the past few days, the following groups for the Qualifier Rounds were not yet finalized and wasn't able to have a real FINAL list of people playing. The list below on my first post isn't the final FINAL list which means there were some more changes. But since my co-host has the real final list, I cannot organize the list myself yet. It has seem he's busy or something has happened to him for being MIA so therefore, I decided that I will organize the groups for the Qualifier Round myself.
However time is lacking at the moment with the supposed Qualifier Round date of this Thursday and Friday. With such short notice and time, I hereby postpone the Qualifier Round for another week making the round happen on the following Thursdays and Friday. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may follow and I understand if you cannot take part of the first NSL due to these short notice changes. Thank you.
TL;DR: My co-host has been MIA the past days where I needed him to make the groups by last Monday at latest. No good so I'm now going to organize so QR delayed another week.
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kk cool
plz no zergs in my group..... >.<
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then i will have to quit nsl due to vacation period :/
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On January 13 2010 03:10 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +Fifth news/announcement (1/12/10):
Due to a lack of response from my co-host the past few days, the following groups for the Qualifier Rounds were not yet finalized and wasn't able to have a real FINAL list of people playing. The list below on my first post isn't the final FINAL list which means there were some more changes. But since my co-host has the real final list, I cannot organize the list myself yet. It has seem he's busy or something has happened to him for being MIA so therefore, I decided that I will organize the groups for the Qualifier Round myself.
However time is lacking at the moment with the supposed Qualifier Round date of this Thursday and Friday. With such short notice and time, I hereby postpone the Qualifier Round for another week making the round happen on the following Thursdays and Friday. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may follow and I understand if you cannot take part of the first NSL due to these short notice changes. Thank you. TL;DR: My co-host has been MIA the past days where I needed him to make the groups by last Monday at latest. No good so I'm now going to organize so QR delayed another week.
random generation on all the users?
http://www.random.org/lists/?mode=advanced
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wait so what do i tell the casters! u have my msn, u cud keep me updated before posting here! or copy paste a new post then e-mail me when u make a post regarding NSL! plz do that so i can keep my casters updated. <3
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[QUOTE]On January 13 2010 03:10 QuickStriker wrote:
[quote]Fifth news/announcement (1/12/10):
Due to a lack of response from my co-host the past few days, the following groups for the Qualifier Rounds were not yet finalized and wasn't able to have a real FINAL list of people playing. The list below on my first post isn't the final FINAL list which means there were some more changes. But since my co-host has the real final list, I cannot organize the list myself yet. It has seem he's busy or something has happened to him for being MIA so therefore, I decided that I will organize the groups for the Qualifier Round myself.
However time is lacking at the moment with the supposed Qualifier Round date of this Thursday and Friday. With such short notice and time, I hereby postpone the Qualifier Round for another week making the round happen on the following Thursdays and Friday. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may follow and I understand if you cannot take part of the first NSL due to these short notice changes. Thank you. [/quote]
TL;DR: My co-host has been MIA the past days where I needed him to make the groups by last Hmmm with it then... is it possible to put my game on Thursday since I won't be able to stay up very long on friday...
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I'm only putting the time date of updates based on my own time and the American time. It's Tuesday, the 12th in both east and west coast of USA.
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Brackets up under my post on the frontpage.
Striker, plz clear out your list. Little changes on the available dates of a few players were made. That list is outdated.
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so is it 1 plays 2, 3 plays 4, 5 plays 6?€
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GL HF noobs! 
edit: that was in no way meant to be condescending
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On January 13 2010 12:34 Pokebunny wrote:GL HF noobs! edit: that was in no way meant to be condescending
nice ninja edit yo
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On January 13 2010 12:33 BlackMesa wrote:
so is it 1 plays 2, 3 plays 4, 5 plays 6?€
Explained on that same post. I updated it a bit ago.
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Any mistakes you find, plz pm them to me. That way it's easier for me to deal with.
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LOL, Im in the "group of death" for friday.
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Sorry if I missed something about this somewhere but do we have to use the accounts that we registered with the 40 games on for the actual Tourney games, or are we free to use a different ID if we inform everyone appropriately?
Cheers.
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On January 13 2010 17:16 iCCup.deL wrote:
Sorry if I missed something about this somewhere but do we have to use the accounts that we registered with the 40 games on for the actual Tourney games, or are we free to use a different ID if we inform everyone appropriately?
Cheers.
That.... was not addressed by striker i don't think. I think you can make a new account to play. However, if you are going to do so, PM ME NAO, so i can make adjustment to the actual brackets as soon as possible.
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On January 13 2010 03:14 iG.Zeep wrote:
kk cool
plz no zergs in my group..... >.<
One zerg. No biggie.
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On January 13 2010 17:27 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 17:16 iCCup.deL wrote:
Sorry if I missed something about this somewhere but do we have to use the accounts that we registered with the 40 games on for the actual Tourney games, or are we free to use a different ID if we inform everyone appropriately?
Cheers. That.... was not addressed by striker i don't think. I think you can make a new account to play. However, if you are going to do so, PM ME NAO, so i can make adjustment to the actual brackets as soon as possible.
Ah. Never mind it would be too much trouble but at least now people know the process! Cheers.
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Friday group of death is 1, no doubt. 5 D+'s in 1 group, and 1 D ^^
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I seem to be in group 6 on thursday - time to practice my ZvZ/ZvP !
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Awe I wish I could be in an all Terran group then again I'm probably gonna get bbsed, can we have like a rule of 1 cheese per round for each player :D
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and only 46 points away from getting C- again...
lol^^
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so tell me. will we be playing this thursday or next thursday
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I played 40 ish games on my TSL account
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I like how you guys start pointing out things like, a week and a half after i posted the finalized list.
Gaoxi signed up with another account (tsl-gaoxi or something like that) that has the game requirement.
NSANE.Hydra was consistently D+ during the signup period, with a winrate of about 50%. If you can maintain this winrate and have more than 100 games i'm sure you can hit C- ez. We did not require anyone to mass games however, and as far as I'm concerned he is D+ by the 40 games mark.
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woooooooooot i made it, thanks for making this possible you guys!
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You guys should have helped Quick and o opps before the finalized list.
But another thing for the next series is to determine if players who hit C or C- in other seasons could join. That should be a point to determine since this players are not noobs like they should be in order to play
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So then is this next thursday or today? Still rather confused on that matter
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On January 15 2010 08:40 PhailSoBaller wrote:
So then is this next thursday or today? Still rather confused on that matter
NSL #1 Qualifier Round:
Date: January 21, 2010 OR January 22, 2010 (determined by preferred dates from application)
Time: Starting at 8:00 PM EST (5:00 PM PST)
Where: Iccup channel "op NSL"
Total Number of Players: 72 Players
Total Number Advancing to Ro36: Exactly 36 Players
Thank Goodness =)
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I'm the only Terran in my group...and my best matchup is TvT ;.;
anyway
GOGOGO PROOM LET'S DANCE
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edit: I fail @ reading
And who in the group are we against? are we paired like the 2 most above in the group plays and so forth in pairs?
Or what did I miss?
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On January 15 2010 15:25 Darrun wrote:
I'm the only Terran in my group...and my best matchup is TvT ;.;
anyway
GOGOGO PROOM LET'S DANCE
Do the BBS into gg build :p
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On January 15 2010 15:50 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2010 15:25 Darrun wrote:
I'm the only Terran in my group...and my best matchup is TvT ;.;
anyway
GOGOGO PROOM LET'S DANCE Do the BBS into gg build :p
I swear to god I am gonna do 0 12 hatch in this tourny, it will be cheesy as fuck =)
And I better start improving ZvZ =)
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Oh cool, I'm in the supposed group of death on Thursday ^.^
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Sixth news/announcement (1/16/10):Hey guys, sorry for my lack of appearance the past few days. I've been overused, enslaved and became what was "Child Labor Terran" like Flash was a year ago except the fact it's real life business and not Starcraft. In any case, as everyone should realize and know, the NSL #1 Qualifier Round brackets are finally up!!! They are on the second post of this thread where my co-host, O-ops, was able to create a pretty neat and nice system of organizing... but in case you are lazy and cannot scroll down to the second post of this thread, here's a link. Now that you know the rules for the Qualifier (located on the spoiler section of Qualifier), who you're playing against, the maps, and the times (listed with the date on the spoiler section of Qualifier), I think you guys are all set and ready to go to start and kickoff our grand tourney of Novice Starleague!!! So I hope to see you all next week when this finally begins!! (If you don't.... well, you automatically fail and lose.... )
Over the weekend or next several days, I'll explain how Ro36 (the next step/week2) works with a simpler easy-to-use format.....
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Oh this is next week? I actually have time to practice.
Is the second column or first one their ICCUP name? Sorry if I missed this posted somewhere.
Edit: FFFFFFUUUUUUUUU G1 is on match point??? >.< My first game is a PvT and I'm P...
Match Point
PvT: 8-14 (36.4%)
FML! Gonna have to practice a lot.
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Some recommendations and suggestions for practicing for NSL #1 QR:
QuickStriker's NSL #1 Qualifier Round Recommendation Analysis:
On the Qualifier Round map pool, the third and fourth phase is OPTIONAL and only happens if certain conditions occurs.... so basically I'd say everyone should be focusing on practicing on the 2 maps as their TOP priority:
1. Match Point (VERY important since this will determine if you have a big chance shot to be a seed or easier chance to move on Ro36 while losers have to struggle very heavily!!!
2. Destination (Definitely important since you're playing a total of 2 games on this map and it determines your standing of survival on these games as well.)
Then afterwards, I would recommend practicing for Heartbreak Ridge as that is if you fail during the top 3 or succeed in the bottom 3 and it's the final thing that prevents you from advancing...
Neomedusa and Lost Temple isn't really important especially to the winner side but if you're on the loser side.... it's a definite win to make. But I wouldn't spend much time at all on these maps, but rather focus on the 2 maps and maybe HBR as well.
If I have to give a percentage of how a "recommended" practice of maps for the QR, it would be as follows:
Match Point - 40%
Destination - 40%
HBR - 18%
Neomedusa - 1.999%
LT - 0.001%
That's my recommendation for everyone! So gl and hope you find your suitable practice and focus on the maps for next week!
O-ops' NSL #1 Qualifier Round Recommendation Analysis:
1. CHEESE
2. Zerg - 9/9/9 pool (9pool, 9 gas, 9 ovie)
3. ????
4. Profit!
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Nooooooooo I don't want some mad cheesefest of horror gate cannon rush dt 4 pool and bbs >.>
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just a question, what if I hit C- just before this begins? im at 2700 pts now .
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Nobody replied in ages TT. I'm going for C- then, you will decide what to do :}.
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a question nobody did... what if i can't host
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On January 19 2010 02:09 ProoM wrote:
Nobody replied in ages TT. I'm going for C- then, you will decide what to do :}.
Play on!!!
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On January 19 2010 04:44 torm3ntin wrote:
a question nobody did... what if i can't host
I think i could get people to host for ya.
Just to be sure though, anyone with a router plz check their setting so you can host games.
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Dont worry proom, after seeing your fail replay on the strategy forums, i think every protoss is salivating at the idea of getting to play you
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On January 19 2010 05:40 Kiante wrote:
Dont worry proom, after seeing your fail replay on the strategy forums, i think every protoss is salivating at the idea of getting to play you
yeah lol good point ^^.
P.s. Im famous woooooo! :D
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lololol I can't seem to contact ma opponent for a game x.x
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obviously he doesnt wanna show you his strats before the match.
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On January 19 2010 06:30 ProoM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 05:40 Kiante wrote:
Dont worry proom, after seeing your fail replay on the strategy forums, i think every protoss is salivating at the idea of getting to play you yeah lol good point ^^. P.s. Im famous woooooo! :D
Huh I always remember you as the guy who has a strat that counters all protoss timing attack while still having a better economy than 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra. o.O
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On January 19 2010 09:46 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 06:30 ProoM wrote:On January 19 2010 05:40 Kiante wrote:
Dont worry proom, after seeing your fail replay on the strategy forums, i think every protoss is salivating at the idea of getting to play you yeah lol good point ^^. P.s. Im famous woooooo! :D Huh I always remember you as the guy who has a strat that counters all protoss timing attack while still having a better economy than 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra. o.O
Tosses better be afraid.
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Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar
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On January 19 2010 11:33 SilverA123 wrote:
Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar
Then don't Forge FE?
1947 - 1896 (50.66 %) ZvP on iCCup
That is not terrible. -_-
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I smell proxy 2 gate then again I'm not Z ^^
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On January 19 2010 13:09 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 11:33 SilverA123 wrote:
Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar Then don't Forge FE? 1947 - 1896 (50.66 %) ZvP on iCCup That is not terrible. -_-
Have you looked at the map?!
It's not possible to 2 gate and profit
The rush distance is relatively long
And there is no ramp to one base tech or hide behind
Basically 3 hatch speedling is insta win
And 50% winrate?
50% chance of getting top right
Not every game is insta lose, some people suck
Not every bot left is insta win, although mid game Protoss has it easy. Lasting until then Is a problem
But about 300 of those games are cheese I bet you
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separate notion: Destination is as fair and balanced as it gets
It's also on the list
If the op is so bent on a bo1, why not make destination that bo1 and matchpoint later
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Ok
Matchpoint if you proxy gate behind the min only I've seen it work soo many times. Also ever thought maybe all the zergs didn't know that 3 hatch ling is good if they spawn on the left? Well if they check this thread at all then they'll know, btw desti will just be a ton of BBS Horror/Proxy gate and who knows what from the Zerg >.>
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On January 19 2010 13:34 SilverA123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 13:09 Gao Xi wrote:On January 19 2010 11:33 SilverA123 wrote:
Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar Then don't Forge FE? 1947 - 1896 (50.66 %) ZvP on iCCup That is not terrible. -_- Have you looked at the map?! It's not possible to 2 gate and profit The rush distance is relatively long And there is no ramp to one base tech or hide behind Basically 3 hatch speedling is insta win And 50% winrate? 50% chance of getting top right Not every game is insta lose, some people suck Not every bot left is insta win, although mid game Protoss has it easy. Lasting until then Is a problem But about 300 of those games are cheese I bet you
So wouldn't every PvZ on Match Point in korean progaming be 3 hatch speedlings from the Zerg? Since they're always trying to fully utilize the map?
Edit: ![[image loading]](http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9788/46441663.jpg)
Forge FE possible without 5 probes
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hey man, before I said I had to withdraw because I was going on holidays and that the qualifier rounds were taking place between the 14th-15th. Reading this topic makes it sounds like the qualifiers haven't taken place. So if it hasn't, am I still eligible to play?
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On January 20 2010 12:57 NguN wrote:
hey man, before I said I had to withdraw because I was going on holidays and that the qualifier rounds were taking place between the 14th-15th. Reading this topic makes it sounds like the qualifiers haven't taken place. So if it hasn't, am I still eligible to play?
Hi! We just met on ICCUP =D
Look under Thursday and the schedule shows that I am playing you...
dang...shouldn't have told you we were playing T_T
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On January 20 2010 12:57 NguN wrote:
hey man, before I said I had to withdraw because I was going on holidays and that the qualifier rounds were taking place between the 14th-15th. Reading this topic makes it sounds like the qualifiers haven't taken place. So if it hasn't, am I still eligible to play?
You are still playing according to the list on the second post of the matchups. You're in group 5 of Thursday's Qualifier Round.... check o-ops first post on first page....
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W00t only 2 days left till my game ^^
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Yep, very shortly, I'll create a thread in the tourney section JUST FOR the Qualifier Round..... but I need my co-host to be on so he can claim the first post of that thread for updates.....T_T
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Seventh news/announcement (1/20/10):Hey guys, I made a separate thread regarding NSL Qualifier Round located here. So anything related or questions toward QR should be addressed there rather than here. Thanks! Also, the qualifier round is THIS WEEK! So prepare yourselves and good luck!!! O-ops will take charge of Thursday's round and I will be around for Friday's round, so best of luck!
bump for this new announcement!
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On January 19 2010 13:11 Nub4ever wrote:I smell proxy 2 gate then again I'm not Z ^^
I've just done my matchpoint ZvP me Z(left) vs P(right) proxy analysis, and I've found out that theres only 1 reasonable place to put proxies :}. Theres some other points too, but it's less likely because of the longer walking distances or chanse to see the gate with "the corner of your eye" :}.
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On January 19 2010 09:46 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 06:30 ProoM wrote:On January 19 2010 05:40 Kiante wrote:
Dont worry proom, after seeing your fail replay on the strategy forums, i think every protoss is salivating at the idea of getting to play you yeah lol good point ^^. P.s. Im famous woooooo! :D Huh I always remember you as the guy who has a strat that counters all protoss timing attack while still having a better economy than 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra. o.O
I still have it and im using it ^^ (I think this time I didn't go for it). Anyway, if you dont watch really carefully, you might not notice anything different ^^.
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1 day!!! Horray for new announcement ^^
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On January 21 2010 08:18 Nub4ever wrote:
1 day!!! Horray for new announcement ^^
Yep anddddddddddd I now have a neatly nicely done picture of the format for anyone's viewing pleasure at the QR format spoiler! ^_^
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I wants update on Ro36!!! >=O
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On January 27 2010 10:05 Nub4ever wrote:
I wants update on Ro36!!! >=O
^^
Me too :o
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On January 19 2010 15:38 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 13:34 SilverA123 wrote:On January 19 2010 13:09 Gao Xi wrote:On January 19 2010 11:33 SilverA123 wrote:
Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar Then don't Forge FE? 1947 - 1896 (50.66 %) ZvP on iCCup That is not terrible. -_- Have you looked at the map?! It's not possible to 2 gate and profit The rush distance is relatively long And there is no ramp to one base tech or hide behind Basically 3 hatch speedling is insta win And 50% winrate? 50% chance of getting top right Not every game is insta lose, some people suck Not every bot left is insta win, although mid game Protoss has it easy. Lasting until then Is a problem But about 300 of those games are cheese I bet you So wouldn't every PvZ on Match Point in korean progaming be 3 hatch speedlings from the Zerg? Since they're always trying to fully utilize the map? Edit: Forge FE possible without 5 probes
lings fit between the gate and the mineral
lings can fit between the left probe
T___T
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jeez, can't you guys like not read? we are postponing the ro36 until next week!! Expect groupings to be up this weekend. We will post the results, so don't worry!!
I don't know about the people in Friday's prelim groups, but i do know that pretty much anyone who even PLAYED Thursday is in R036, since the turnout was so shitty. GJ to the people who showed :D
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On January 27 2010 10:30 SilverA123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2010 15:38 Gao Xi wrote:On January 19 2010 13:34 SilverA123 wrote:On January 19 2010 13:09 Gao Xi wrote:On January 19 2010 11:33 SilverA123 wrote:
Matchpoint 1.2 is such a terrible map pvz
you cannot forge FE on the right side without having to pull at least 5 probes against any speedling crap
that's unheard of
and 3 hatch speedling is nearly impossible to stop if you dotn see it coming
please RECONSIDER D:!
MISTER QUICK STRIKER! YOU'RE A PROTOSS TOO D:!
Fighting spirit! or make destination the BO1 map
-edit1- grammar Then don't Forge FE? 1947 - 1896 (50.66 %) ZvP on iCCup That is not terrible. -_- Have you looked at the map?! It's not possible to 2 gate and profit The rush distance is relatively long And there is no ramp to one base tech or hide behind Basically 3 hatch speedling is insta win And 50% winrate? 50% chance of getting top right Not every game is insta lose, some people suck Not every bot left is insta win, although mid game Protoss has it easy. Lasting until then Is a problem But about 300 of those games are cheese I bet you So wouldn't every PvZ on Match Point in korean progaming be 3 hatch speedlings from the Zerg? Since they're always trying to fully utilize the map? Edit: Forge FE possible without 5 probes lings fit between the gate and the mineral lings can fit between the left probe T___T
Oh what?
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Oh shit. I thought this was a Bo1. I guess I didn't show up for any of my other wins.
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On January 27 2010 11:26 O-ops wrote:
jeez, can't you guys like not read? we are postponing the ro36 until next week!! Expect groupings to be up this weekend. We will post the results, so don't worry!!
I don't know about the people in Friday's prelim groups, but i do know that pretty much anyone who even PLAYED Thursday is in R036, since the turnout was so shitty. GJ to the people who showed :D
In that case I probably have to pull out. Can sf_torquatus take my place?
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hey oopss can u tell me if i qualified? although i lost my game on thursday no other player from my group appeared!
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For those Match Point complainers:
I know this one works, might need a third probe but I didn't have time to check.
This one works for sure.
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Kal had a nice wall against Hoejja on MP.
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I stole these from progamers, so that might be it. I think I got the bottom one from BeSt, can't remember who did the top one.
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theres a 3-4 probe wall on liquipedia that i use. Worked fine in my game on match point
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Any updates for the round of 36?
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No friday group
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Sweet. Hope striker gets well soon. O-ops i love you for my group. Thanks lol.
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What's the Ro36 map pool so I can start practicing?
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Yah can we at least have the map pool?
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fighting spirit, hbr, match point, moon glaive
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On February 04 2010 09:39 baller wrote:
fighting spirit, hbr, match point, moon glaive
No, look under fourth news.... I gave you the map pool already... I'm sick but I'll make a quick update soon.... O_ops is making a Ro36 thread soon. Please be patient....
And the map pool are Desti, Fighting spirit, HBR, match point and Outsider SE in case you're too lazy to look at fourth news on OP.
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