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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 13 2009 01:15 GMT
#181
Irda's BM is as good as his play
Never Knows Best.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 13 2009 01:22 GMT
#182
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 13 2009 01:54 GMT
#183
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.


True, his BM can only get better.
Never Knows Best.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
December 13 2009 02:12 GMT
#184
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.

so due to his bm he cant get better, right....
sound on the vod dosent work for me either, im playing it in vlc and still nothing
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 13 2009 02:14 GMT
#185
At least ret didn't win by doing stupid shit like strelok ^^
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 13 2009 03:17 GMT
#186
On December 13 2009 03:17 Slow Motion wrote:
The best thing about Idra is that if you're a fan, you are guaranteed to be entertained whether he wins or loses. And the guys flaming Idra and counter-flaming are fun too; it's all part of the complete Idra entertainment package.


True, I wouldn't be an Idra fan if the Idra hate wagon wasn't so intense
Trucy Wright is hot
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
December 13 2009 07:04 GMT
#187
On December 13 2009 11:12 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.

so due to his bm he cant get better, right....


Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
December 13 2009 07:11 GMT
#188
Idra has BM because he's a Western player, and shit-talk and the like is part of Western gaming culture. Have any of you guys played a pub game of DotA on USWest? Every other line in chat is something like "AH HAHAHA FAGGOT". Idra's "BM" is pretty tame by comparison. His skill-level has nothing to do with it.
Bring back 2v2s!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 07:14:47
December 13 2009 07:11 GMT
#189
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
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On December 13 2009 11:12 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.

so due to his bm he cant get better, right....


Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself.


dont think oov's or stork's bm held them back

I honestly think to succeed in bw in some way or another you sortof do need that mindset. To think that you're better than everyone else. Im pretty sure the majority of progamers dont think the way they portray themselves in interviews. A lot of people say koreans are really gm but if you understood korean you would know some of the most bm people are koreans. Its just they cant speak english well. Cant even call it bm at times because its just frustration. After like 10 minutes later the person is all fine and jolly again. Im not saying bm should be praised or anything but just to add a different side to it.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 13 2009 07:53 GMT
#190
To tell you the truth I think people who say Idra is BM just don´t get the humor. Are you guys even real nerds? I mean Idra uses his words like a sword. Giant invisible DT-sword that is. Man the guy can play like no other and when he loses he always, always delivers. That´s not BM, that´s just plain genius.

And anyway guys, true winner in any sport needs to have that "ignorant" attitude so they can concentrate on how to beat their opponent instead of if they can beat their opponent. Anyone who knows someone who has mastered certain sport can confirm this.

+ Show Spoiler +
Best example in SC is probably oov, he used to speak shit of his opponents but did he ever really stop raping them compeletely?
Savior hit the bottom hard after Bisu manhandled him. Why? Because that beating made him think he was no longer the MAN. Had he just thought: "okay, this new protoss is good but he got lucky too with his new build" he would have never started to lose to any terran and zerg too. This mentality is hard to retain after losing it.
Then you say there are great players who are always nice and mannered, but why do these players speak highly of their opponents? Because they really believe what they say: "This guy has to be good because he made me fight so hard, and I´m so damn good!"
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
December 13 2009 07:59 GMT
#191
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 11:12 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.

so due to his bm he cant get better, right....


Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself.


rofl
HEY MEYT
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
December 13 2009 08:15 GMT
#192
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.


do you read what you post?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 13 2009 08:21 GMT
#193
I don't like how Idra has established the "bad-boy" persona... he's just feeding off of it and that's only going to mean more BM in the future.
6581
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 13 2009 08:24 GMT
#194
The thing you guys don't understand is that Jaedong has the most BM attitude of anyone in progaming. Jaedong imagines himself killing his opponent IN REALITY in his pre-game warmups. He's admitted this in interviews. Stork is fucking psychotic. He LAUGHS during LIVE TELEVISION matches because he thinks his opponents attempts to kill him are so futile and weak. Idra just types some angry text and leaves the game. Pretty tame, no?
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
December 13 2009 08:26 GMT
#195
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 11:12 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote:
Irda's BM is as good as his play

Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet.

The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has.

so due to his bm he cant get better, right....


Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself.

:D Bm didnt stop iloveoov or stork from winning a starleauge, and one blog post dosent mean that im ALWAYS bad manner
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 13 2009 08:47 GMT
#196
Gotta love the irony of krazyfool's post. I guess that's why he's a nobody
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
December 13 2009 08:54 GMT
#197
You're saying that as if I ever claimed to be somebody. Why so fail?
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 09:12:06
December 13 2009 09:05 GMT
#198
Ret played really well, when idra sniped his fourth hatch i thought he had it in the bag
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 09:21:00
December 13 2009 09:16 GMT
#199
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote:
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On December 13 2009 08:57 niteReloaded wrote:
If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise.


explain

I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid.

imo any games after then 10 minute mark favor the better player
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/290667/1x1.html

therefore, it wasnt completely out of his control
so wouldn't pretending it was just hurt him later on?
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
December 13 2009 09:17 GMT
#200
On December 13 2009 17:24 Fzero wrote:Stork is fucking psychotic. He LAUGHS during LIVE TELEVISION matches because he thinks his opponents attempts to kill him are so futile and weak.

And Stork is, in case some of you have missed this, the man. BE LIKE STORK.
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