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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 12 2009 22:22 GMT
#161
On December 13 2009 06:02 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 05:09 sS.NuB wrote:
On December 13 2009 02:26 Sharp-eYe wrote:
ret got this ezpz


Agreed =D.

#1 ret fan!!

On December 13 2009 04:52 myfriendPlank wrote:
Lol, Ret beats IdrA in one game and everybody goes crazy. Oh well, at the end of the day: IdrA > Ret.


If he won the game then how is Idra better then him?


Because although ret is super awesome, IdrA would still take him easily in a series of games.


That makes no sense after watching that game, even though it was just one game, it was close, and ret winning wasn't attributable to one big event in the match. If ret and IdrA played a series it would definately be close. Besides, as far as I can remember all their previous encounters were really close, with many of those occuring not more than a few months ago.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
December 12 2009 22:51 GMT
#162
Finally the Megaupload link works for me (tried every second minute) o/
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
December 12 2009 23:07 GMT
#163
On December 13 2009 05:09 sS.NuB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 02:26 Sharp-eYe wrote:
ret got this ezpz


Agreed =D.

#1 ret fan!!

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 04:52 myfriendPlank wrote:
Lol, Ret beats IdrA in one game and everybody goes crazy. Oh well, at the end of the day: IdrA > Ret.


If he won the game then how is Idra better then him?

Lol after reading "#1 ret fan!!!!," there's no point in actually replying....
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 12 2009 23:15 GMT
#164
Was hillarious
also:
Winning without doing anything... Very useful talent toi have
In the woods, there lurks..
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 12 2009 23:41 GMT
#165
ahhh why did i have to miss this!
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 23:45:01
December 12 2009 23:43 GMT
#166
edited
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 12 2009 23:52 GMT
#167
the day idra doenst QQ the world ends
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
December 12 2009 23:57 GMT
#168
If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise.
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
December 12 2009 23:59 GMT
#169
Is the megaupload vod mute for you guys too?
Do I need any specific codec for it?
(–_–)
iG.SwOrD
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria183 Posts
December 13 2009 00:07 GMT
#170
sad nerd still cant handle a lose
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 13 2009 00:08 GMT
#171
On December 13 2009 08:57 niteReloaded wrote:
If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise.


explain

I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 00:11:05
December 13 2009 00:10 GMT
#172
so the megaupload link works for you now?
can someone confirm it so i dont have to lose time to fix the problem.

mtmf: use VLC
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 13 2009 00:14 GMT
#173
With Morrow abusing his way up the ladder this game may have even more significance now.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 13 2009 00:24 GMT
#174
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 08:57 niteReloaded wrote:
If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise.


explain

I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid.

Exactly. Say you want to 14 CC on a map, which is a legitimate strategy, but your opponent 4 pools you. Its out of your hands - the loss was inevitable with your strategy and his. Not a bad excuse I would say.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 00:39:40
December 13 2009 00:36 GMT
#175
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 08:57 niteReloaded wrote:
If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise.


explain

I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid.

Well, I'm not sure this falls under "metagame" or basic knowledge about starcraft, but what ret did was play a slightly greedy style while making sure he doesn't die, buying time till he gets the "dooms day" units.

He applied economic pressure by taking the 4th gas.
Before that, he applied economic pressure by cleverly faking mutas.(ret waited for Spire to finish only to make 6 hydras all at once and morph them into lurkers soon.)
Idra wasted some minerals on turrets.

This wasn't really Idra's mistake coz it all looked like standard 3hatch muta, but you have to credit Ret for this move.


Real pressure with units can kill you immediately, economic pressure kills you later.

By saying "you did nothing" it seems like idra is categorizing this economic approach as lesser or something which would be an extremely ignorant thing to do, and it's why I said what you quoted.

His attempts of shutting down the left side of the map were miserable.
He knew Ret was gonna have Ultra's soon and it seemed to me that he was planning on out muscling the ultras, which, again, is not your standard #1 pick for fighting the ultralisks strategy.

I think a much smarter thing to do would have been to make like 3 dropships, DMatrix them if needed and start dropping like a madman, coz you could say ret was spread thin before ultras.
His only hope was to cut Ret's resources and he failed by being too passive/choosing wrong battles.
One might say Idra wasn't passive, but when you look at the battles he chose, those were wrong places to focus your attention on.

He seemed undetermined in the game, walking from left side to the right without really having a plan on what to do. Was he underestimating ret, and expecting he would make a mistake while only having to worry not to die by casting a few swarms every now and then?

+ a huge /IMO tag, I'm a C level player.
(I promise it's coz of my mechanics :p)
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 00:52:35
December 13 2009 00:51 GMT
#176
On December 13 2009 09:10 gds wrote:
so the megaupload link works for you now?
can someone confirm it so i dont have to lose time to fix the problem.

mtmf: use VLC

Same problem with VLC, no sound at all...
I just downloaded the latest version of K-Lite Full Pack (5.5.1), but still no sound.

EDIT: Oh, the megaupload link worked fine for me.
(–_–)
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States361 Posts
December 13 2009 00:53 GMT
#177
Works fine in the latest version of VLC under Ubuntu.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:08:58
December 13 2009 01:07 GMT
#178
On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote:
i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere.
btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid.

Yes please! The replay is fine but i loveeeee rets fpv
I was way to quick to quote lol, thanks for the vod
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:09:51
December 13 2009 01:08 GMT
#179
wow that terran sucks so hard xD
Im pretty sure the b team zerg's kick his ass with ease

and they win by doing nothing, cuz they only play you with one hand xd
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
December 13 2009 01:09 GMT
#180
On December 13 2009 08:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Was hillarious
also:
Winning without doing anything... Very useful talent toi have


Actually it was

Idra: You're good at making carriers.

Draco: Thanks

Idra: Very useful talent toi have.

Idra has left the game.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
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