• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:14
CEST 07:14
KST 14:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!39Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5592 users

[T] Savior's Resolve - Page 9

Forum Index > BW General
330 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
September 17 2009 23:31 GMT
#161
2010!!!!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 23:49:17
September 17 2009 23:49 GMT
#162
On September 18 2009 04:25 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 04:08 Bifur wrote:
Savior has no chance. He will never win series over Jaedong, Bisu and Flash

Right.... and Calm has a better chance right?

No + Show Spoiler +
fucking shit?
Calm is way ahead of savior right now.
Jaedong
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
September 17 2009 23:57 GMT
#163
On September 17 2009 20:23 ForSC2 wrote:The thing about Savior that many people seem to miss is that when he was good most people didn't like him. People dressed him up like hitler, only watched games in hopes that he'd lose, and made threads seriously discussing whether or not Savior's dominance was good for Starcraft. People felt this way up till the moment he won his first OSL and finally after his entire career gave him a little bit of credit standing there after having defeated the most accomplished player of all time. Then right after his greatest moment he loses 3:0 to what would become the best Protoss player of all time. At this point Savior had two options: 1) Play his ass off so he could likely become like Nada was after Nada had won OSL/MSLx3 and got to the finals over and over only to lose to Iloveoov. 2) Say fuck it to the majority of people that hated him for being that good, get some hookers, and walk out on the majority of sc fans that couldn't even appreciate him for being that good. In Starcraft for one moment we saw real perfection and we threw it away because perfect wasn't good enough for us. So I'm not bothered when Savior picked the second option omninmo. Because maybe when he left like he did we all realized we didn't deserve him.


You pretty much said everything that needs to be said right here. Thread can be closed now.
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
September 18 2009 00:08 GMT
#164
I'll believe it when I see it...
"If you can chill..........then chill."
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
September 18 2009 00:53 GMT
#165
He's making a big statement as always, and he always ends up letting all of us down . If savior doesnt pass the prelims, I dont think I can believe in him that much anymore.

That being said: I STILL BELIEVE!
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 18 2009 02:52 GMT
#166
Yeah Savior will definitely win another OSL/MSL, just like he destroyed everyone in 2009.

Ironic that Savior needs a savior from the path of night? Perhaps Rekrul can show his good side instead of corrupting people.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
September 18 2009 02:58 GMT
#167
Best thing EVER!! Please come back savior, you're our only hope!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
gjg.instinct
Profile Joined May 2009
144 Posts
September 18 2009 03:02 GMT
#168
Go Ma Jae-Yoon! Also a rumor of the Emperor making a huge comeback. But the reality is that these legends of old will be facing a leaner, meaner lineup made of JD, FLash, Bisu, Effort, Fantasy, and every other pro gamer looking to go out with a boom.
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
September 18 2009 03:27 GMT
#169
On September 17 2009 20:23 ForSC2 wrote:

The thing about Savior that many people seem to miss is that when he was good most people didn't like him. People dressed him up like hitler, only watched games in hopes that he'd lose, and made threads seriously discussing whether or not Savior's dominance was good for Starcraft. People felt this way up till the moment he won his first OSL and finally after his entire career gave him a little bit of credit standing there after having defeated the most accomplished player of all time. Then right after his greatest moment he loses 3:0 to what would become the best Protoss player of all time. At this point Savior had two options: 1) Play his ass off so he could likely become like Nada was after Nada had won OSL/MSLx3 and got to the finals over and over only to lose to Iloveoov. 2) Say fuck it to the majority of people that hated him for being that good, get some hookers, and walk out on the majority of sc fans that couldn't even appreciate him for being that good. In Starcraft for one moment we saw real perfection and we threw it away because perfect wasn't good enough for us. So I'm not bothered when Savior picked the second option omninmo. Because maybe when he left like he did we all realized we didn't deserve him.



brought a tear to my eye.
<3
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 18 2009 04:07 GMT
#170
On September 18 2009 08:57 malathion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2009 20:23 ForSC2 wrote:The thing about Savior that many people seem to miss is that when he was good most people didn't like him. People dressed him up like hitler, only watched games in hopes that he'd lose, and made threads seriously discussing whether or not Savior's dominance was good for Starcraft. People felt this way up till the moment he won his first OSL and finally after his entire career gave him a little bit of credit standing there after having defeated the most accomplished player of all time. Then right after his greatest moment he loses 3:0 to what would become the best Protoss player of all time. At this point Savior had two options: 1) Play his ass off so he could likely become like Nada was after Nada had won OSL/MSLx3 and got to the finals over and over only to lose to Iloveoov. 2) Say fuck it to the majority of people that hated him for being that good, get some hookers, and walk out on the majority of sc fans that couldn't even appreciate him for being that good. In Starcraft for one moment we saw real perfection and we threw it away because perfect wasn't good enough for us. So I'm not bothered when Savior picked the second option omninmo. Because maybe when he left like he did we all realized we didn't deserve him.


You pretty much said everything that needs to be said right here. Thread can be closed now.


Really? I've watched sports for over 10 years now. And when a player I don't like retires, I've never thought, "Oh, I'm going to miss him. I can't believe he left and I never knew his greatness."

Usually, I just think "Fuck yeah!"

Meh
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
September 18 2009 04:14 GMT
#171
On September 18 2009 13:07 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 08:57 malathion wrote:
On September 17 2009 20:23 ForSC2 wrote:The thing about Savior that many people seem to miss is that when he was good most people didn't like him. People dressed him up like hitler, only watched games in hopes that he'd lose, and made threads seriously discussing whether or not Savior's dominance was good for Starcraft. People felt this way up till the moment he won his first OSL and finally after his entire career gave him a little bit of credit standing there after having defeated the most accomplished player of all time. Then right after his greatest moment he loses 3:0 to what would become the best Protoss player of all time. At this point Savior had two options: 1) Play his ass off so he could likely become like Nada was after Nada had won OSL/MSLx3 and got to the finals over and over only to lose to Iloveoov. 2) Say fuck it to the majority of people that hated him for being that good, get some hookers, and walk out on the majority of sc fans that couldn't even appreciate him for being that good. In Starcraft for one moment we saw real perfection and we threw it away because perfect wasn't good enough for us. So I'm not bothered when Savior picked the second option omninmo. Because maybe when he left like he did we all realized we didn't deserve him.


You pretty much said everything that needs to be said right here. Thread can be closed now.


Really? I've watched sports for over 10 years now. And when a player I don't like retires, I've never thought, "Oh, I'm going to miss him. I can't believe he left and I never knew his greatness."

Usually, I just think "Fuck yeah!"


Now multiply you by the majority of the Starcraft community at the time and why the fuck would anyone want to keep playing. I applaud Savior for making the right choice.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 18 2009 04:28 GMT
#172
On September 18 2009 13:14 ForSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 13:07 baubo wrote:
On September 18 2009 08:57 malathion wrote:
On September 17 2009 20:23 ForSC2 wrote:The thing about Savior that many people seem to miss is that when he was good most people didn't like him. People dressed him up like hitler, only watched games in hopes that he'd lose, and made threads seriously discussing whether or not Savior's dominance was good for Starcraft. People felt this way up till the moment he won his first OSL and finally after his entire career gave him a little bit of credit standing there after having defeated the most accomplished player of all time. Then right after his greatest moment he loses 3:0 to what would become the best Protoss player of all time. At this point Savior had two options: 1) Play his ass off so he could likely become like Nada was after Nada had won OSL/MSLx3 and got to the finals over and over only to lose to Iloveoov. 2) Say fuck it to the majority of people that hated him for being that good, get some hookers, and walk out on the majority of sc fans that couldn't even appreciate him for being that good. In Starcraft for one moment we saw real perfection and we threw it away because perfect wasn't good enough for us. So I'm not bothered when Savior picked the second option omninmo. Because maybe when he left like he did we all realized we didn't deserve him.


You pretty much said everything that needs to be said right here. Thread can be closed now.


Really? I've watched sports for over 10 years now. And when a player I don't like retires, I've never thought, "Oh, I'm going to miss him. I can't believe he left and I never knew his greatness."

Usually, I just think "Fuck yeah!"


Now multiply you by the majority of the Starcraft community at the time and why the fuck would anyone want to keep playing. I applaud Savior for making the right choice.


Not sure what you're implying. I just stated my stance that not everyone thinks Savior is God like his fanboys, so it's not like haters will somehow start loving him if he leaves the game. That's just such an absurd assumption.

Btw, I'm not actually a Savior hater. I did dislike him back when he was beating the crap out of my boy Stork left and right. But that was a long time ago. Right now, I don't feel either way about him.
Meh
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 18 2009 04:29 GMT
#173
On September 18 2009 04:51 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2009 20:07 writer22816 wrote:
Savior won't even qualify for either leagues. We going to to see something akin to Magma's ultimate trash talk.

Magma: the six dragons are actually six acorns lol

then he loses to much, MUCH in a bo3 with TEARS OF THE MOON as one of the maps. Then he retires.

yeah, too bad Savior stomped Bisu when he and Magma were in the same MSL group.


Neo Harmony. You honestly think savior has a chance against bisu nowadays?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
September 18 2009 04:33 GMT
#174
I would love to see MJY get back into shape...I'm not going to count on it happening but he DID have some big wins last year. Waking up to find that he beat Bisu on Neo Harmony in the MSL was probably one of the coolest feelings I've ever had during my time following the pro scene.
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
September 18 2009 04:36 GMT
#175
On September 18 2009 13:29 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 04:51 3 Lions wrote:
On September 17 2009 20:07 writer22816 wrote:
Savior won't even qualify for either leagues. We going to to see something akin to Magma's ultimate trash talk.

Magma: the six dragons are actually six acorns lol

then he loses to much, MUCH in a bo3 with TEARS OF THE MOON as one of the maps. Then he retires.

yeah, too bad Savior stomped Bisu when he and Magma were in the same MSL group.


Neo Harmony. You honestly think savior has a chance against bisu nowadays?

For sure he has, His zvp is still good.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 04:39:07
September 18 2009 04:38 GMT
#176
On September 18 2009 13:29 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 04:51 3 Lions wrote:
On September 17 2009 20:07 writer22816 wrote:
Savior won't even qualify for either leagues. We going to to see something akin to Magma's ultimate trash talk.

Magma: the six dragons are actually six acorns lol

then he loses to much, MUCH in a bo3 with TEARS OF THE MOON as one of the maps. Then he retires.

yeah, too bad Savior stomped Bisu when he and Magma were in the same MSL group.


Neo Harmony. You honestly think savior has a chance against bisu nowadays?


Yup?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/247_09_All-Star_Race_Battle/games/ZvP

It's not like he would get owned completely, his ZvP is still his best matchup by far.
sAviOr...
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 18 2009 04:43 GMT
#177
On September 18 2009 08:49 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 04:25 Mobius wrote:
On September 18 2009 04:08 Bifur wrote:
Savior has no chance. He will never win series over Jaedong, Bisu and Flash

Right.... and Calm has a better chance right?

No + Show Spoiler +
fucking shit?
Calm is way ahead of savior right now.


One day we will get to see Calm in a Bo5 that isn't ZvZ...

Until then I don't think Calm has really a better chance to Bo5 over Bisu or Flash or Fantasy ehh...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 18 2009 04:53 GMT
#178
The All-stars is a nothing tournament.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
September 18 2009 05:00 GMT
#179
On September 18 2009 13:53 writer22816 wrote:
The All-stars is a nothing tournament.



Savior still beat bisu, and it's not like bisu didn't try so it's still a win over one of the best tosses in the world. So that's gotta count for something, right?
President of Doctor Helvetica Fan Club...PM to join. Members--4, Most recent: Archas
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 18 2009 05:02 GMT
#180
Man Savior's done enough in Starcraft. Being the most accomplished player for a year and totally dominating everyone else is no mean feat.
I'm still waiting for him to come back.
Sullifam
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 195
ProTech127
Nina 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11276
GuemChi 2009
Leta 95
Shinee 64
Noble 17
Icarus 9
League of Legends
JimRising 761
Counter-Strike
summit1g5988
Coldzera 1315
m0e_tv401
taco 316
minikerr65
Other Games
XaKoH 639
C9.Mang0371
ROOTCatZ134
Livibee121
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1213
• Rush1071
Other Games
• Scarra773
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
5h 46m
RotterdaM Event
11h 1m
Replay Cast
18h 46m
The PondCast
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Special KOR vs CHN
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.