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yeah son, even x17 kicked evets whos been around for years.. obviously many people started hacking with this latest hack coming out, some of them played icup legit before since they had no other choice.. but hacking once is all it takes to lose credibility and its completely justified. My only problem is accusing someone who did not hack, thats why we have to find out how good this method is
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whys everyone so serious? its great that they found alot of hackers but only people seem to be shocked is @ like 5-10ppl max out of 230+ lets face it, in iccup.com it shows that only 10-12 B ranks has been caught n rest 30 C and 200+D's since they are saying they will track down the IP n find the AKA, fun has begun. lets just wait and see the bigger fishes.
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On August 31 2009 17:01 iCCup.deL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 16:54 iMp.will. wrote: Smart people dont believe everything they read or hear. Im sure there is a lot of mistakes in all of this accuses. Im pretty sure about one of them. iMp-HolyZerg dont hack. Im not saying because he is my teammate or something , im just more than positive this is not the case. Yet you said yourself it is a team shared account, as many teams probably have, so how can you take 100% responsibility on this? There were other teams who thought their teammates were hack-free before this list but they took responsibility and kicked them.
I know them well so im more than positive they dont use hacks eh? I've been playing with them for ages and i trust them fucking a lot to play from one account with them. UNK said himself this thing is not 100% positive so where is your proof man? I can collect replays in a snap , will you unblock the account ?
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On August 31 2009 10:49 StRyKeR wrote:was the ban so necessary ;-( there are unbanned hackers on this site
lol good call
Also, I hope much isn't right about the anti-hack program detecting brainservers launcher or other launchers, as hacks. In that case this whole ordeal would get a bit embarrassing.
Then again Clazziquai confessed. TL should pay one of these hacking sites a visit btw
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On August 31 2009 11:58 masami.sc wrote: It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes?
Actually no, we don't all make such mistakes.
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On August 31 2009 17:38 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:58 masami.sc wrote: It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes? Actually no, we don't all make such mistakes.
Oops, maybe he forgot no one else is as perfect as you.
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On August 31 2009 17:23 iMp.will. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 17:01 iCCup.deL wrote:On August 31 2009 16:54 iMp.will. wrote: Smart people dont believe everything they read or hear. Im sure there is a lot of mistakes in all of this accuses. Im pretty sure about one of them. iMp-HolyZerg dont hack. Im not saying because he is my teammate or something , im just more than positive this is not the case. Yet you said yourself it is a team shared account, as many teams probably have, so how can you take 100% responsibility on this? There were other teams who thought their teammates were hack-free before this list but they took responsibility and kicked them. I know them well so im more than positive they dont use hacks eh? I've been playing with them for ages and i trust them fucking a lot to play from one account with them. UNK said himself this thing is not 100% positive so where is your proof man? I can collect replays in a snap , will you unblock the account ?
He said it is not 100% positive? Where? He says it is not perfect, in reference to people still being able to get away with hacking on iCCup - nowhere does he say there are false positives, only that "there is no other explanation but hacking.".
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On August 31 2009 17:41 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 17:38 Foucault wrote:On August 31 2009 11:58 masami.sc wrote: It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes? Actually no, we don't all make such mistakes. Oops, maybe he forgot no one else is as perfect as you.
Don't be ridiculous man. Would you agree everyone here hacks?
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On August 31 2009 09:50 Kennigit wrote: Gonna try get ips to compare vs tl accounts. Die hackers. Awesome.
Gotta say its even pretty satisfying to see names of random people you were sure were hacking but couldn't prove it
zD.Amaz I just played the other day for example. Was positive he was hacking against me.
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On August 31 2009 17:05 Athos wrote: I think its interesting that in an age where Scotland shows compassion to a terrorist Teamliquid is unwilling to show compassion towards one of their most prized members.
But yeah, I'm not trying to defend his actions, Clazz is completely responsible for his own fate. I just happen to be in the opinion that second chances are important for people to have. I say give Clazz a one year ban with maybe an avatar that shows he's a cheater.
Edit: Maybe you could partial ban him. Ban him from the Strategy, Broodwar and tournament forum, but let him keep his blog (and maybe allow him to post in general). His offense was Starcraft related, not life related. Therefore he should be forbidden to talk about Starcraft. Scotland was fucking stupid about that so I don't really see how that helps your point.
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Oh clazz man im dissapointed are these 100% confirmed?
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HOLY SHIT!! MY ACCOUNT....
was not on the list *phew*
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On August 31 2009 17:45 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 17:41 Camlito wrote:On August 31 2009 17:38 Foucault wrote:On August 31 2009 11:58 masami.sc wrote: It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes? Actually no, we don't all make such mistakes. Oops, maybe he forgot no one else is as perfect as you. Don't be ridiculous man. Would you agree everyone here hacks?
You are being an idiot if you think that a judgment lapse in a video game is something so egregious that nobody in the world could ever do the same due to its heinous nature
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On August 31 2009 17:45 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 17:41 Camlito wrote:On August 31 2009 17:38 Foucault wrote:On August 31 2009 11:58 masami.sc wrote: It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes? Actually no, we don't all make such mistakes. Oops, maybe he forgot no one else is as perfect as you. Don't be ridiculous man. Would you agree everyone here hacks?
He didn't mean hacking, he ment making mistakes that people don't think about -_-
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On August 31 2009 17:06 jinnyjinn wrote: whys everyone so serious? its great that they found alot of hackers but only people seem to be shocked is @ like 5-10ppl max out of 230+ lets face it, in iccup.com it shows that only 10-12 B ranks has been caught n rest 30 C and 200+D's since they are saying they will track down the IP n find the AKA, fun has begun. lets just wait and see the bigger fishes. Well at Iccup u also play cw's, tourneys etc.
On that list theres 0 my friends, RESPECT !
Also every 2v2 player on that list is a hacker.For confirmation, go idle on ladder 2x2 chan for a bit.
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great news! Hackers will never die but this is nice!
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die Clazz 
nrg.mayka and holyzerg(imp) omg :O
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Mwell... How to deal with hackers... Obviously they are ruining the game for others, but being a hacker does not equal being a bad person. If it were me I imagine I'd permaban them simply to send a clear message and to hurt the offender enough to make the lesson stick. But I don't run TL and I dont want to, because no rules are harder to follow than your own, especially when the hackers aren't really bad guys. Hacking isn't evil. It's merely most uncool, dude.
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Would be cool if ICCup admins reavelad aka's / countries of all the banned players so we can totally get rid of them. Anyway, funny list, noone of my friends was fount there, so I'm pretty happy, kek.
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There is a guy in that list that doesn't hack. We were playing at a lan party and he got the message "your connection to bnet has been lost" but for the rest of the people in the game it showed "(...) starcraft memory has been changed" or something like that. We all stood up looking at each other and went to check his computer and there were no hacks whatsoever. I think your anti-hack method has some obvious flaws.
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