I think SKT coach's reasoning was that with so many games being played, he could afford to send rookie line ups to give them more experience. But then, when he felt the team had to start winning again, he started mixing in the veterans... only to find that they were losing too. So now, since they've fallen so far, I think he's basically putting rookies in the line up again to give them experience, and occassionally sending out his veterans just to make sure they don't get too rusty.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 03 2007 10:34 GMT

#262

updated with the last 4 play days

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

July 03 2007 11:18 GMT

#263

Wow FBH 9-1, Stork 13-4.
FBH hasn't played TvP though and Stork is 5-1 against terran.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 03 2007 15:42 GMT

#264

Updated with today's games, which makes the week complete.

Some notes:

MBCGame HERO has won 7 matches with a 3-0 score, 3 of those were within the last 4 play days!
The three best 1v1 players so far this season are Stork (13-4), Free (13-5) and Seas (14-5)
SKTT1 actually won an ace match again..., they even managed to climb from the 11th rank back to the 8th rank, because the won 1 match and several bottom teams lost some matches
By losing twice this week KTF has practically no chance to reach the playoffs anymore
(09:21:57) Carnac_: 70 games played on geo, 40 were tvts and 24 were TvP/TvZ
(09:21:59) Carnac_: that's right
(09:22:07) Carnac_: 6 games without a t
(09:22:10) Carnac_: (5 zvz and 1 pvz)
(09:22:18) hasuprotoss wow i cant add
(09:22:19) Pressure_ ...
(09:22:19) hasuprotoss -_-
(09:22:51) hasuprotoss: so 104 players of geometry were terran out of 140...
(09:22:54) Carnac_: which means that out of 140 players sent out of geometry 104 were terrans
(09:22:58) hasuprotoss: that's ridiculous

Person514cs

1004 Posts

July 03 2007 18:01 GMT

#265

wow. all the zergs are doing horrible this pro league.

semioldguy

United States7488 Posts

July 03 2007 18:30 GMT

#266

CJ has to get lucky now if they are going to make it since their tiebreakers are also so low.

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

July 04 2007 04:14 GMT

#267

Now that this season is entering its final stretches, here's some interesting analysis of the racial break down of the teams.

Team 1v1 Race Stats:
Race: Win-Loss

Air Force ACE:
P: 2-8
T: 7-16
Z: 9-17

CJ Entus:
P: 9-8
T: 18-15
Z: 6-7

eSTRO:
P: 10-10
T: 7-14
Z: 4-9

Hanbitstars:
P: 13-9
T: 2-14
Z: 7-13

KTF MagicNs:
P: 9-15
T: 16-13
Z: 7-7

Lecaf OZ:
P: 12-6
T: 11-10
Z: 10-8

MBCGame Hero:
P: 11-7
T: 20-10
Z: 6-4

OGN Sparkyz:
P: 8-8
T: 7-17
Z: 14-6

Pantech Ex:
P: 9-12
T: 13-18
Z: 5-8

Samsung KHAN:
P: 16-13
T: 13-4
Z: 5-8

SK Telecom T1:
P: 4-8
T: 27-16
Z: 5-6

STX Soul:
P: 15-9
T: 19-10
Z: 6-3

Top teams by race (Winning %):

Top Protoss Team
Lecaf OZ 12-6 (66.67%) <-All Anytime
STX Soul 15-9 (62.5%)
MBCGame Hero 11-7 (61.11%)
Hanbitstars 13-9 (59.09%)
Samsung KHAN 16-13 (55.17%)
CJ Entus 9-8 (52.94%)
eSTRO 10-10 (50%)
OGN Sparkyz 8-8 (50%)
Pantech Ex 9-12 (42.86%)
KTF MagicNs 9-15 (37.5%)
SK Telecom T1 4-8 (33.33%)
Air Force ACE 2-8 (20%)

Top Terran Team
Samsung KHAN 13-4 (76.47%)
MBCGame Hero 20-10 (66.67%)
STX Soul 19-10 (65.52%)
SK Telecom T1 27-16 (62.79%)
KTF MagicNs 16-13 (55.17%)
CJ Entus 18-15 (54.55%)
Lecaf OZ 11-10 (52.38%)
Pantech Ex 13-18 (41.94%)
eSTRO 7-14 (33.33%)
Air Force ACE 7-16 (30.43%)
OGN Sparkyz 7-17 (29.17%)
Hanbitstars 2-14 (12.5%)

Top Zerg Team
OGN Sparkyz 14-6 (70%)
STX Soul 6-3 (66.67%)
MBCGame Hero 6-4 (60%)
Lecaf OZ 10-8 (55.56%)
KTF MagicNs 7-7 (50%)
CJ Entus 6-7 (46.15%)
SK Telecom T1 5-6 (45.45%)
Pantech Ex 5-8 (38.46%)
Samsung KHAN 5-8 (38.46%)
Hanbitstars 7-13 (35%)
Air Force ACE 9-17 (34.62%)
eSTRO 4-9 (30.77%)

GTR

51444 Posts

July 04 2007 17:06 GMT

#268

Next week

+ Show Spoiler +

I'll translate it all in a few minutes.

GTR

51444 Posts

July 04 2007 17:11 GMT

#269

+ Show Spoiler [Week 13 Entry] +

7월 7일(토, Ongamenet) PM 2 o'clock
▶SKTelecom - Hanbit
GoRush (Z) < Python > free[gm] (P)
KT.MGW)HyuK (Z) < Shin Peaks of Baekdu > GGPlay (Z)
LaKe[Name] (Z)/Shudder_V (T) < Vampire> Kuni (T)/Qoo)Max (Z)
BeSt[HyO] (P) < Nemesis > Yooi (T)
Ace Match < Monty Hall >

7월 7일(토, MBCGame) PM 2 o'clock
▶ eSTRO - KTF
Tester[gm] (P) < Python > Haran (정명호) (Z)
UpMagiC (T) < Monty Hall > Nal_rA (P)
Cool[fOu] (Z)/TossLife[fOu] (P) < Chariots of Fire> ZergBOy (Z)/[Oops]Shield (P)
Sea.Really (T) < Geometry > Flash (T)
Ace Match < Tau Cross >

7월 8일(일, Ongamenet) PM 2 o'clock
▶Pantech - Air Force ACE
pepe[z-zone] (T) < Python > fOru (P)
Nal_Rock (P) < Nemesis > Clon (Z)
Sea.FireFist (Z)/HerO_V (P) < Chariots of Fire> H.O.T-Forever (Z)/Rage (P)
Kosiro (Z) < Shin Peaks of Baekdu > MuMyung (Z)
Ace Match < Monty Hall >

7월 8일(일, MBCGame) PM 2 o'clock
▶ Lecaf Oz-STX
Jaedong (Z) < Tau Cross > SoO[S.SiR] (P)
AnyTime (P) < Nemesis > Siz)KaL (P)
Dongrae (T)/ShinHwA[Name] (Z) < Vampire> InteR.Calm (Z)/HwaSin (T)
fOrGG_V (T) < Geometry > Ever)T(Sheis (T)
Ace Match < Python >

7월 9일(월, Ongamenet) PM 6 o'clock반
▶MBCGame - Samsung
Light (T) < Tau Cross > firebathero (T)
Sea[Shield] (T) < Geometry > FrOzean[Name] (T)
n.Die_Jaehoon (P)/TheZerg[HyO] (Z) < Chariots of Fire> sigamari (Z)/TT (P)
PuSan (P) < Monty Hall > Stork (P)
Ace Match < Nemesis >

7월 9일(월, MBCGame) PM 6 o'clock반
▶CJ - Ongamenet
sAviOr (Z) < Shin Peaks of Baekdu > Luxury[GsP] (Z)
XellOs (T) < Geometry > go.go[GsP] (T)
IriS (T)/Sea.Jy (Z) < Vampire> YellOw[NamE] (Z)/Chalrenge (P)
DarkElf (T) < Monty Hall > Bifrost (T)
Ace Match < Nemesis >

7월 10일(화, Ongamenet) PM 6 o'clock반
▶SKTelecom - KTF
Kingdom (P) < Nemesis > Nal_rA (P)
JulyZerg (Z) < Python > 815 (Z)
LaKe[Name] (Z)/Shudder_V (T) < Vampire> Reach (P)/ZergBOy (Z)
Midas (T) < Tau Cross > GooDFriend (T)
Ace Match < Geometry >

7월 10일(화, MBCGame) PM 6 o'clock반
▶ eSTRO - Hanbit
SangHo[Shield] (P) < Monty Hall > free[gm] (P)
Tester[gm] (P) < Python > SaSin)bOy (Z)
Cool[fOu] (Z)/TossLife[fOu] (P) < Chariots of Fire> FanTastic_NamoO (P)/Qoo)Max (Z)
maGma[S.G] (Z) < Nemesis > JungHoon (Z)
Ace Match < Shin Peaks of Baekdu >

7월 11일(수, Ongamenet) PM 2 o'clock
▶ Air Force ACE - Lecaf Oz
Rage (P) < Monty Hall > AnyTime (P)
BoxeR (T) < Python > Jaedong (Z)
H.O.T-Forever (Z)/fOru (P) < Chariots of Fire> Bright[z-zone] (Z)/N.aCe)Ever (P)
Clon (Z) < Nemesis > fOrGG_V (T)
Ace Match < Shin Peaks of Baekdu >

7월 11일(수, MBCGame) PM 2 o'clock
▶Pantech - STX
HerO_V (P) < Nemesis > SoO[S.SiR] (P)
HoOny (P) < Python > Siz)KaL (P)
GGoMa (T)/Nal_keke (Z) < Vampire> InteR.Calm (Z)/HwaSin (T)
Sea.FireFist (Z) < Tau Cross > YoonJoong (P)
Ace Match < Geometry >

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 06 2007 12:08 GMT

#270

KINGDOM VS NAL_RA ZOMG!

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

July 06 2007 23:52 GMT

#271

awwww sea only plays some loser

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 07 2007 07:04 GMT

#272

updated again with latest results & stats

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 07 2007 23:21 GMT

#273

updated with todays games.

by winning 3-0 vs stx lecaf are now 2nd instead of them :o

rgfdxm

United States239 Posts

July 08 2007 01:51 GMT

#274

~~I'm confused. Pantech and ACE will finish the season with 22 matches, OGN and Khan with 20, and everyone else with 21? Why is that?~~

hhkx

Canada757 Posts

July 08 2007 01:57 GMT

#275

On July 08 2007 10:51 rgfdxm wrote:
I'm confused. Pantech and ACE will finish the season with 22 matches, OGN and Khan with 20, and everyone else with 21? Why is that?

i am confused, khan will finish with 22, they have 3 games left, against CJ,MBC,and STX. CJ will also finish with 22, they will play Khan and OGN(they played 20 games now)

so everyone should finish with 22...not sure how did u carry out ur calulcation

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 08 2007 02:01 GMT

#276

of course everyone will finish with 22 matches played, what kind of a question is that????

rgfdxm

United States239 Posts

July 08 2007 02:20 GMT

#277

You're both right, and I'm dumb. Never mind.

HonestTea

5007 Posts

July 08 2007 09:39 GMT

#278

Damn Carnac (and other contributers), this thread is pure art. I used to go to pgr21 to find the right data. But TL keeps it better organized.

Amazing resource.

Person514cs

1004 Posts

July 08 2007 15:30 GMT

#279

Wow, the terran stats from each team vary the most. Hanbitstars 2-14? What the hell happen here?

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

July 08 2007 19:58 GMT

#280

Hanbit have only played 3 terrans solo in proleague:
Ganzi 2-8 (TvT 2-3 TvP 0-3 TvZ 0-2)
Joker[gamei] 0-1 (TvZ 0-1)
Yooi 1-5 (TvT 0-3 TvP 1-1 TvZ 0-1)

Wins (Ganzi: Sheis(T) GGoMa(T), Yooi: Best[HyO](T))

And at the time of those race stats were calculated, that 2-14 is the lowest number of terrans playing. (Oddly enough only 1 less played then the top KHAN's 13-4)