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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 17:26:40
January 11 2013 15:10 GMT
#1
I was pretty late with my ranking, so I waited for the Up&Downs to end.
December wasn't as eventful as the record-November. We had proleague, Code A, GSL Blizzard Cup, MLG Tournament of Champions, NASL finals and HSC.
Regarding Proleague I want to state, that I value the games very highly, but you have to consider that they are all only Bo1 and the level of play is generally below GSL. (as the up&downs showed a bit)

I am using the results from http://aligulac.com that seems to be the most complete database right now.

KalWarkovs Foreigner Top30 End December: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=390426

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There is always a lot of discussion who the best SC2 players are. Some automated ELO rankings like TLPD (or sc2charts.net) provide an idea but are not satisfying. Based on KalWarkov`s Top30 Foreigner Ranking, I present you my Top30 Koreans.

The players should be ranked by their current overall skill.
To judge this, obviously recent results count more, but a GSL win doesnt put you on #1 automically and an established player who is slumping a bit won't fall too far.

I hope we can get a nice discussion going like in the other thread. I will regard your opinions for the next ranking. Please consider that the skill-gaps are pretty small and there is no real difference between 3-4 places (especially in the lower part).

I could give explanations why I placed the players in this order but I guess I wait for your critics.


Ranking

1. (0) (Z)Life (Startale)
2. (+1) (P)PartinG (-)
3. (-1) (Z)Leenock (FXO)
4. (0) (P)By.Rain (SKT)
5. (0) (Z)Sniper (MVP)
6. (0) (Z)HyuN (-)
7. (+3) (Z)DongRaeGu (MVP)
8. (+1) (T)TaeJa (Liquid)
9. (-2) (P)Creator (Prime)
10. (+6) (T)Bomber (Startale)
11. (0) (Z)Symbol (-)
12. (+2) (T)Polt (-)
13. (-5) (T)MVP (IM)
14. (-2) (T)MarineKing (Prime)
15. (0) (P)HerO (Liquid)
16. (+6) (T)Flash (KT)
17. (+6) (Z)viOLet (Azubu)
18. (+2) (P)Squirtle (Startale)
19. (-6) (T)Bogus (STX)
20. (-2) (T)Ryung (Axiom)
21. (-2) (Z)Curious (Startale)
22. (-1) (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (Stars)
23. (*) (T)GuMiho (FXO)
24. (0) (T)Byun (Prime)
25. (0) (P)MC (SK)
26. (*) (T)BaBy (Team 8)
27. (0) (Z)NesTea (IM)
28. (-11) (P)YongHwa (IM)
29. (0) (T)Hack (Startale)
30. (*) (T)YoDa (IM)


Dropped Out: Seed (IM), RorO (Khan), sHy (Stars)

Close but no cigar: Keen (MvP), Vampire (MvP), Alicia (-), Supernova (mtw), Last (STX), First(IM), Happy (IM), hero[jOin] (CJ), Jjakji (NS HoSeo), n.Die_soO (SKT), TheSTC (-), Bboong (MJ), Jaedong (EG), Seed (IM), RorO (Khan), sHy (Stars), Fantasy (SKT), Wooki (KT), Effort (CJ), Tear (FXO)

Teams: Startale 5, IM 5, Prime 3, Liquid 2, MVP 2, FXO 2, Stars 1, SKT 1, SK 1, KT 1, STX 1, Axiom 1, Azubu 1, Team8 1


Explanations on changes:
- Life already was #1 and winning Blizzard Cup only cemented his spot. No questions here.
- Parting got #2 at Blizzard Cup and also won the MLG Tournament of Champions over Life, soo and Rain (going 10-2 overall). He also recently qualified for IEM Katowice losing 1 single map. He is really hot right now and clearly deserves #2 imo.
- Leenock was 3-1 in his Blizzard Cup group and beat Hyun in FC (later lost to Sting). He holds his spot over Rain who had a bad Blizzard Cup, but got to the final of the MLG ToC (beating Leenock) and played well in proleague.
- Sniper also was 3-1 in his Blizzard Cup group and besides losing in the GSTL finals, he didnt play anything else. I feel the current Top5 really stand out.
- Hyun barely holds his spot. He lost to Sortof in NASL and Leenock in FightClub, then dominated a bunch of online tournaments.
- DRG is back! After losing to Noblesse in Code A, he was 3-1 in his Blizzard Cup group and qualified in Up&Downs with a 4-1 record.
- Taeja lost in his IronSquid group, then performed well in proleague and 4-0ed his U&D group.
- Creator was rather unimpressive in some teamleagues and the Asia Starcraft league. He could beat Sting 5-1 in Fight Club.
- He was a new entry last month, now Bomber climbs farther after 4-0ing his U&D group. (he did lose to Gumiho in Code A before)
- Symbol won the Korean qualifier for HSC and got #2 there. He also could qualify for Code S through Wildcards. His ZvZ seems to be his bane right now.
- Polt got #3 at NASL and could beat Bbyong to clinch his Code S spot which he later forfeited.
- MVP could qualify for Code S, but looked really bad at Blizzard Cup. The injury seems to strike again.
- MKP lost to soo in MLG ToC. HSC wasnt too special for him (eliminated by Stephano).
- Hero won NASL, but was so-so in proleague, Blizzard Cup and the U&D.
- Flash was decent in MLG ToC and could allkill EGTL in proleague. He was eliminated in U&D despite a 3-2 record.
- viOlet got #2 NASL and was ok in Blizzard Cup.
- Squirtle lost to Yonghwa in Code A, than allkilled FXO in IPTL and 4-1ed his U&D group.
- Bogus only played PL and didnt look too convincing so far.
- Ryung won the Shoutcraft Invitational ,Curious his Code A match. They didnt play relevant elsewhere.
- Soulkey is looking good in proleague.
- Gumiho makes a reentry deciding the GSTL finals again and beating Bomber and First in Code A.
- MC and Byun could qualify for Code S again. MC at HSC was pretty disappointing.
- Baby makes an entry by beating Flash and Symbol in Code A and looking decent in proleague.
- Nestea lost to Bbyong then qualified through U&Ds.
- Yonghwa could beat Squirtle, then lost to Life and went 0-5 in his U&D group.
- Hacks only game was beating Jaedong in Code A.
- YoDa 4-1ed his U&D group and also qualified for IEM Katowice.

danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 15:23:58
January 11 2013 15:23 GMT
#2
Man, I don't know about that. Bogus, Curious, Ryung, and Soulkey are #'s 19, 20, 21, and 22? And, Jaedong doesn't even make the list at all? I don't think so :/
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 17:29:07
January 11 2013 16:05 GMT
#3
On January 12 2013 00:23 danl9rm wrote:
Man, I don't know about that. Bogus, Curious, Ryung, and Soulkey are #'s 19, 20, 21, and 22? And, Jaedong doesn't even make the list at all? I don't think so :/


Jaedong just has a lot of exposure, especially with EG. But he isnt especially successful (he did win HyperX).

Soulkey performed better in both GSL and proleague.
Ryung and Curious locked their Code S spot early, they were great in October/November and simply didnt play after that.

Jaedong is very close though. You can swap him with some rank 26-30. (same is true for Fantasy)
iaminfiniteOSL
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
63 Posts
January 11 2013 16:37 GMT
#4
Jaedong isent T8, he is EG.
HuK, Crank, ViOlet, Jaedong...
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
January 11 2013 17:13 GMT
#5
I thought that this would be pretty inaccurate, like the top foreigners list usually is, but it is actually pretty damn good, nice job lol
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 11 2013 17:25 GMT
#6
He holds his spot over Rain who had a bad Blizzard Cup, but got to the final of the MLG ToC (beating Life) and played well in proleague.


Rain didn't beat Life, it was Parting who did

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MLG_Tournament_of_Champions#Brackets
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 11 2013 17:27 GMT
#7
Yes, Rain beat Leenock.

Thx for the corrections!
RanDomFox
Profile Joined November 2012
United States84 Posts
January 11 2013 19:33 GMT
#8
Baby beat some of these players ranked better than him and is in code s, yet barely makes the list?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#9
On January 12 2013 04:33 RanDomFox wrote:
Baby beat some of these players ranked better than him and is in code s, yet barely makes the list?

It takes time to move up.
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