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GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
August 17 2012 22:17 GMT
#1
One day, mankind will colonize Mars. If not, at least space itself. The time it takes for light to travel from Earth to Mars is about eight minutes. Eight entire minutes. If we are to colonize another planet, we will need a form of currency.

It could that America gets there first, making the Usd the currency of Mars. That is, until China gets there. Or, they could just make a unique currency. Either way, what they choose to do will end up being exchanged with currencies back on Earth. This is where the eight minutes comes in.

So, there's an eight minute lag between the markets. How do you incorporate the eight minute lag into price? One person on Earth trades the Usd for some Euro's, while at the same time, a person on Mars trades whatever currency for Usd at the same time. However, they will see each other's transactions eight minutes later.

My mind is full of fuck right now. So high.

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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
August 17 2012 22:24 GMT
#2
Weed works mysterious ways. 5/5 for the last line.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 17 2012 22:26 GMT
#3
Ah, weed. Don't worry about how we're going to get there, much less how we're going to stay there. Just worry about what's going to happen when we try to spend money whilst there.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8000 Posts
August 17 2012 22:27 GMT
#4
That's to get an idea of how bad weed and capitalism are fucking people's mind up.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
August 17 2012 22:36 GMT
#5
My issue with space is how ESports will work.
Like, the moon people can't practice with earth people (Lol, 1 minute delay), so the skill difference between the two will vary. Then whenever they compete, one will dominate the other.
Will the ESports bubble burst after we start colonizing other worlds?
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
August 17 2012 22:41 GMT
#6
eSports dollars is the way to go in space
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45368 Posts
August 17 2012 22:46 GMT
#7
I was wondering who would actually care about this eight minute lapse until I read the last two words in your post.

The answer is that the currency will be in Double Dollars, and that Vash the Stampede will colonize Mars.

You're welcome.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 17 2012 22:52 GMT
#8
Easy, every currency will be worth 8 minutes less
shikata ga nai
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
August 17 2012 22:54 GMT
#9
Unless we find a way to go faster then light, (which we won't) we'll never colonize mars.
Must be fun to be high though.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 17 2012 23:01 GMT
#10
The answer is that you will have an exchange on Earth and an exchange on Mars, both owned by a common entity. Every 16 minutes, the exchanges will reset the price with each other. Each exchange will charge a spread to compensate for the risk that in the 8 minutes the price will have moved against its current position. The common entity will turn a profit when the movement is essentially a random walk, and will lose money with the rate moves strongly in one direction or the other and keeps moving in that direction.
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 17 2012 23:01 GMT
#11
On August 18 2012 07:54 Maxd11 wrote:
Unless we find a way to go faster then light, (which we won't) we'll never colonize mars.
Must be fun to be high though.


Why in the world would you need to have FTL to colonize mars?
shikata ga nai
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
August 17 2012 23:11 GMT
#12
Rofl I laughed out so loud reading this. Gold
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
August 17 2012 23:41 GMT
#13
On August 18 2012 07:17 DigiGnar wrote:
One day, mankind will colonize Mars. If not, at least space itself. The time it takes for light to travel from Earth to Mars is about eight minutes. Eight entire minutes. If we are to colonize another planet, we will need a form of currency.


However, they will see each other's transactions eight minutes later.

My mind is full of fuck right now. So high.


Correct (on the full of fuck). 8 minutes is sun to Earth. Mars to Earth is way shorter, on average about 70 lightseconds.
Here be Dragons
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 17 2012 23:44 GMT
#14
Taking your post seriously for a moment, this has already happened. There are currency markets all over the world. I read somewhere that investment banks used automated methods and strategically placed servers between large trading cities to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as fast as possible.

Some physicists suggested using neutrinos to shave off a few milliseconds from the communication time. Although neutrinos travel at the speed of light or slightly slower, unlike light they can pass through the Earth. Unfortunately they are also very difficult to detect so a reliable neutrino "router" would cost hundreds of millions of dollars and would need to be housed inside a mountain to shield the neutrino detector from atmospheric muons.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 17 2012 23:48 GMT
#15
On August 18 2012 08:41 Rimstalker wrote:
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On August 18 2012 07:17 DigiGnar wrote:
One day, mankind will colonize Mars. If not, at least space itself. The time it takes for light to travel from Earth to Mars is about eight minutes. Eight entire minutes. If we are to colonize another planet, we will need a form of currency.


However, they will see each other's transactions eight minutes later.

My mind is full of fuck right now. So high.


Correct (on the full of fuck). 8 minutes is sun to Earth. Mars to Earth is way shorter, on average about 70 lightseconds.


Depends on relative positions. Mars can be farther than the Sun. Actually it is, more often than not.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 17 2012 23:59 GMT
#16
hahaha at least you realize you are high that's pretty funny.

To on a more serious note, there are likely ways to arbitrate the value of money, I imagine.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#17
I just can't wait 'til the Martians fight a war of independence against the US and the US becomes the new Britain xD.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
August 18 2012 01:38 GMT
#18
I don't think it would be likely that if we were to colonize other planets (which, if it would happen, might be hundreds of years later), that we would be using different currencies. I'm sure there would be a global currency by that time. Maybe the Euro or USD idk.

I wouldn't start worrying about this now. Start worrying 177 years later when Earth becomes uninhabitable from World War 7 when the nuclear hydro-colliders disintegrate the atmosphere and burn up the space slipstream surrounding the nucleo-encabulator. That's when you should start worrying.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 18 2012 01:39 GMT
#19
On August 18 2012 09:17 sc4k wrote:
I just can't wait 'til the Martians fight a war of independence against the US and the US becomes the new Britain xD.


It'll be like real life TvT lol
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 18 2012 01:41 GMT
#20
Speaking on the distances between Earth-Mars and Earth-Sun, Earth-Sun average is 93m miles and light takes 8 minutes to travel that distance. Earth-Mars has many varying distances due to opposition and "conjunction" (astrology terms basically meaning farthest distance and closest distance between two objects, respectively). When Earth-Mars are closest, the distance can be something as little as 36m miles. When they are furthest, the distance is around 249m miles. The average is 140m miles (less than 142 because Mars' orbit is longer than Earth's). So you could say it takes an average of 12 minutes for light to travel between the two bodies. 70lightseconds is far off the mark.

What you really need to ask yourself is how we would exchange data with people in other galaxies. Now tune into your third eye for a month and let me know what you find!
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