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sjames
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia27 Posts
January 22 2012 14:39 GMT
#1
Hello everyone.

SJames here, good to see you all again :D

I believe that suicide should not be illegal or frowned apon.

Suicide is a personal choice. In the same way that what you eat, drink and do is your own choice.

Naturally, if you chose to commit suicide it can have a terrible impact on your family and friends. It can result in financial difficulty and hardship for people. However everyone makes choices that in some way hurt others, its not unique to suicide.

Suicide is not the choice between life and death, as death is unavoidable and thus one can only chose to experience death sooner. Suicide is about choosing whether to experience life or not, and the sad truth is, is that many living people have actually already given up on live. People work jobs they hate. They numb themselves with drugs and alcohol, they commit crime and live with extream hate and frustration. These people just as just as dead as the corpse of someone who committed suicide. People like this are dead men walking. They are the zombies the world has always had.

People choose to reject life all the time. People play on the computer instead of visiting their sick grandmother. They watch TV while their friends are out partying. They chose to live, but without being alive, they chose to not experience the world or life. Some people hide in their room all their lives.They reject life every day, and its completely legal, so then why is suicide not?

I'm not saying all forms of suicide are good, In the same way that not all choices are good.

But at the end of the day, you are always the one with the choice. You have the final choice in your life, and nobody should have the right to restrict your choices.

You make a choice, you accept the consequences. That's the way it always has been, and its the way it always will be. You are nothing more than a product of your choices. You cease being a human when you have no choice. So in a way, not being able to chose death, makes you less human then someone who did.

“You have a choice. Live or die. Every breath is a choice. Every minute is a choice. To be or not to be.”

*
"Its only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything" - SJames.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 22 2012 14:44 GMT
#2
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 22 2012 14:45 GMT
#3
The sunset limited. Good as.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 22 2012 14:46 GMT
#4
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 22 2012 14:48 GMT
#5
Don't you think suicide is practically legal for the people you mention: criminals and people with dead end jobs? If I wanted to kill myself, I could do it today and suffer no legal consequences.
Lewfen
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden88 Posts
January 22 2012 14:49 GMT
#6
I don't understand how suicide is illegal in any country, like Zaros said you can't punish them when they are dead. Surely there isn't a country where you can go to jail for failing suicide? :/
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 22 2012 14:49 GMT
#7
I know in the US It's illegal, but I don't understand why...

As Zaros said, once their dead their dead, so how can you punish them? Unless they failed at suicide, in which case why would you punish them?

Anyone know the reason why?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#8
On January 22 2012 23:49 Pandain wrote:
I know in the US It's illegal, but I don't understand why...

As Zaros said, once their dead their dead, so how can you punish them? Unless they failed at suicide, in which case why would you punish them?

Anyone know the reason why?


cough religion cough
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#9
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 22 2012 14:52 GMT
#10
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.


i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 22 2012 14:54 GMT
#11
On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.


i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.


Arrested = / = charged and convicted.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
January 22 2012 14:54 GMT
#12
How about some statistics? What percent of suicides/attempted suicides occur while the person is suffering from some form of temporary insanity and will change their mind later?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
January 22 2012 14:58 GMT
#13
In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 22 2012 14:59 GMT
#14
On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.


i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.


Arrested = / = charged and convicted.


Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 22 2012 15:00 GMT
#15
On January 22 2012 23:59 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.


i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.


Arrested = / = charged and convicted.


Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested.


Thats pretty irrelevant though. Suicide is legal and theres nothing stopping you doing it. This thread is about people committing suicide, not their little helpers.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 15:03:27
January 22 2012 15:01 GMT
#16
On January 22 2012 23:58 Xiron wrote:
In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it.

What could be better than pure nothingness?
Death is like.... the ultimate peace.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
January 22 2012 15:03 GMT
#17
On January 23 2012 00:01 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:58 Xiron wrote:
In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it.

What could be better than pure nothingness?


About anything that creates positive emotions.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
January 22 2012 15:04 GMT
#18
So much good things in the world that taking your own life without experience the most you can is waste.

Besides suicide is not an exit. It is an END.
aka Wardo
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
January 22 2012 15:09 GMT
#19
On January 22 2012 23:54 micronesia wrote:
How about some statistics? What percent of suicides/attempted suicides occur while the person is suffering from some form of temporary insanity and will change their mind later?


It depends on your definition of temporary. If you count depression, PTSD or schizophrenia as a form of temporary insanity then it's a large majority.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 22 2012 15:11 GMT
#20
On January 23 2012 00:00 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:59 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.


thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.


Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.


i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.


Arrested = / = charged and convicted.


Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested.


Thats pretty irrelevant though. Suicide is legal and theres nothing stopping you doing it. This thread is about people committing suicide, not their little helpers.


not irrelevant as some people cant physically kill themselves and need help.
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