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Hello everyone.
SJames here, good to see you all again :D
I believe that suicide should not be illegal or frowned apon.
Suicide is a personal choice. In the same way that what you eat, drink and do is your own choice.
Naturally, if you chose to commit suicide it can have a terrible impact on your family and friends. It can result in financial difficulty and hardship for people. However everyone makes choices that in some way hurt others, its not unique to suicide.
Suicide is not the choice between life and death, as death is unavoidable and thus one can only chose to experience death sooner. Suicide is about choosing whether to experience life or not, and the sad truth is, is that many living people have actually already given up on live. People work jobs they hate. They numb themselves with drugs and alcohol, they commit crime and live with extream hate and frustration. These people just as just as dead as the corpse of someone who committed suicide. People like this are dead men walking. They are the zombies the world has always had.
People choose to reject life all the time. People play on the computer instead of visiting their sick grandmother. They watch TV while their friends are out partying. They chose to live, but without being alive, they chose to not experience the world or life. Some people hide in their room all their lives.They reject life every day, and its completely legal, so then why is suicide not?
I'm not saying all forms of suicide are good, In the same way that not all choices are good.
But at the end of the day, you are always the one with the choice. You have the final choice in your life, and nobody should have the right to restrict your choices.
You make a choice, you accept the consequences. That's the way it always has been, and its the way it always will be. You are nothing more than a product of your choices. You cease being a human when you have no choice. So in a way, not being able to chose death, makes you less human then someone who did.
“You have a choice. Live or die. Every breath is a choice. Every minute is a choice. To be or not to be.”
 
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Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.
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The sunset limited. Good as.
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK.
thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.
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Don't you think suicide is practically legal for the people you mention: criminals and people with dead end jobs? If I wanted to kill myself, I could do it today and suffer no legal consequences.
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I don't understand how suicide is illegal in any country, like Zaros said you can't punish them when they are dead. Surely there isn't a country where you can go to jail for failing suicide? :/
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I know in the US It's illegal, but I don't understand why...
As Zaros said, once their dead their dead, so how can you punish them? Unless they failed at suicide, in which case why would you punish them?
Anyone know the reason why?
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:49 Pandain wrote:
I know in the US It's illegal, but I don't understand why...
As Zaros said, once their dead their dead, so how can you punish them? Unless they failed at suicide, in which case why would you punish them?
Anyone know the reason why?
cough religion cough
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On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back.
Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK. thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back. Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken.
i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.
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On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK. thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back. Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken. i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news.
Arrested = / = charged and convicted.
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How about some statistics? What percent of suicides/attempted suicides occur while the person is suffering from some form of temporary insanity and will change their mind later?
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In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it.
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK. thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back. Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken. i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news. Arrested = / = charged and convicted.
Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested.
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On January 22 2012 23:59 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK. thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back. Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken. i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news. Arrested = / = charged and convicted. Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested.
Thats pretty irrelevant though. Suicide is legal and theres nothing stopping you doing it. This thread is about people committing suicide, not their little helpers.
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On January 22 2012 23:58 Xiron wrote:
In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it.
What could be better than pure nothingness?
Death is like.... the ultimate peace.
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On January 23 2012 00:01 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:58 Xiron wrote:
In my opinion suicide is stupid. If you really don't want the life you are living anymore, you can still let everything behind and go somewhere else and start a new life, which is better than suicide. You've got nothing to lose, so make the best of it. What could be better than pure nothingness?
About anything that creates positive emotions.
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So much good things in the world that taking your own life without experience the most you can is waste.
Besides suicide is not an exit. It is an END.
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On January 22 2012 23:54 micronesia wrote:
How about some statistics? What percent of suicides/attempted suicides occur while the person is suffering from some form of temporary insanity and will change their mind later?
It depends on your definition of temporary. If you count depression, PTSD or schizophrenia as a form of temporary insanity then it's a large majority.
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On January 23 2012 00:00 Ph4ZeD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 23:59 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:52 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:51 Ph4ZeD wrote:On January 22 2012 23:46 Zaros wrote:On January 22 2012 23:44 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Suicide is legal. At least in the UK. thats because you cant punish someone when they are dead.., assisted suicide is illegal in the UK even if u take someone to switzerland to die you can be arrested when u come back. Its never happened in years that if you help someone go to Switzerland you get prosecuted when you get back. Hundreds of people have done it with no action taken. i remember someone was arrested about a year ago in the UK for doing that, it was on the news. Arrested = / = charged and convicted. Its still illegal, if u kept doing it you would be arrested. Thats pretty irrelevant though. Suicide is legal and theres nothing stopping you doing it. This thread is about people committing suicide, not their little helpers.
not irrelevant as some people cant physically kill themselves and need help.
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