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LeoA
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada108 Posts
December 22 2010 03:08 GMT
#1
Recently I just bought the game Starcraft: BroodWar, and I asked TL what I should do, regarding learning to play, and how I as a new player, could experience what many have called, the best rts to date. It was suggested to me, on my first post, that I should make a blog on TL regarding my experience with the game, which I thought was an excellent idea. I hope that this blog will be a sort of nostalgic journey for some of you, and perhaps entice a few people from the sc2 community to get back to the basics, like I am, and enjoy some BW action. My goal is to play at least 50 iCCup games by the end of 9 days, at the [9]th day I will do a pretty extensive writeup and hopefully a full gamelog of all my online games.

Before the Blog:
Previous experience with gaming

Before diving into the blog, I want to take some time to introduce who I am, not so much as a person, but as a gamer.

My first real game, which I clocked over 100 hours into was actually star-wars battlefront 2, which I maintain (despite its bad ratings) is one of the better games I've ever played. After that, I got hardcore into team fortress 2, which despite its goofy graphics, actually marked my first experience with competitive gaming (700 hours). It was actually during that time that I was actually introduced by a teammate to Warcraft 3, my first rts...it hooked me. After my stint with TF2 +War 3 I got Starcraft 2 the day it came out, hoping for a solid game. SC2 is actually what got me into TL and ultimately, to the game I'm going to be playing exclusively, for the next 9 days, Starcraft: BroodWar.

Day[1] - Today, I bought the Starcraft Anthology from the Blizzard Online store, and while the game was downloading, Read a bunch about BW strategy, and a guide on getting better at the game in general (by Ver) and thought alot about what I want from the game, and it was then that I actually decided to write this blog.

When I first opened the game I was a little bit apprehensive about playing against real people, so I started to play 1v1 games vs a random computer. The first game I got Protoss off of a random roll, and I decided that I liked it, so its now my main race, unless something compels me to switch to Terran, (which I tried along with Zerg, but neither feel as comfortable) I must've played at least 7 20-30 minute games, and the thing I found surprisingly hard was not the different hotkeys, which I learned in about five minutes but rather the way the rally system works, I'm still trying to find a good system of making sure all my workers are mining properly and my army is going the right places.

Another thing I found quite challenging, especially vs toss, where I would 2 gate fe then throw down forge, and cyber to get essentially only zealots and dragoons, is that I cant just double click to grab all the units of teh same type, I'd have to make control groups (something which for some reason I'm physically unable to do, emailed blizzard, hope to hear back) and hit 1a*click* 2a*click* 3a*click* etc. to get my 36 or however many dragoons or zealots to move out. I ended up losing alot more units than I should've because of that, and hope that I can figure out an easy way to solve my problem soon.
Hopefully I can also balls up tomorrow, or tonight and play some online games against the people who have been playing for 10 years...*gulp*

any tips or advice welcome and thanks for reading

tl;dr bought BW, played it, will play again.

gl hf Leo fighting d8)

Before you say anything, remember...I bite.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 03:20:49
December 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#2
You should be ok in bnet if you've played wc3 and sc2... not 50% maybe but you'll do ok if you just keep making workers and macro up a good army... but I would actually recommend to skip bnet and play iccup from the start.

EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
December 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#3
lol having to use more than 1 control group is not a "problem"... it's brood war :d

gl.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#4
Nice, you should try some bgh games on bnet just for practice
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 22 2010 04:35 GMT
#5
Start off on some comp stomp games and then graduate to fastest map and then BGH. Gotta take it slow.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 22 2010 04:57 GMT
#6
Nice idea for blog.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 22 2010 05:00 GMT
#7
Oh, and you can select all the units of the same kind by holding control while selecting. Or just dl ouble click (left click) to select all the same units.
You can also add/remove units from group by holding shift.
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Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
December 22 2010 07:06 GMT
#8
There is a cap of 12 units per selection, so you do need multiple control groups. You're Protoss though, so you shouldn't need more than 1-5 for your army. It gets ridiculous with Zerg...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 22 2010 07:07 GMT
#9
Cant wait til the 9th day!
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 07:22 GMT
#10
You have to get used to hiting 1a2a3a4a etc to attack with large numbers in BW. Correct hand positioning helps. There are several threads on hand position for speed for this, but one often recommended way is:

1a2a3a4a

Ring-Ring Middle-Ring Index-Ring Index-Ring

practice it.

As far as rallying probes, rally them towards your minerals just a little bit, and catch them as they come out, then right click to mine.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
December 22 2010 13:37 GMT
#11
Congratulations on buying this awesome game! Good luck playing!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 22 2010 16:12 GMT
#12
Good luck and Have fun!
Brood was is a game where you will learn new stuff even after 10 years!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
December 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#13
welcome to the 1a2a3a club :p

fun read, hoping to see more!
POGGERS
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#14
a good tip for the rallypoints problem is to use the location hotkeys, you can bind locations to f2,f3 and f4 the same way you bind control-groups. when I was semi-active in BW and offraced P I had f2 for my cluster of gateways and f3 for my rallypoint, worked good for me.

and yeah, dont complain about the control-groups as protoss, try playing lategame zerg. hoooly fuck >.<
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 22 2010 17:29 GMT
#15
Remember to 1a2a3a several times each time you want your troops to attack-move some where. I can't stress this enough, if you only 1a2a3a one time, you may miss one of your control group.
Protoss is the best race for start playing BW. GL and HF with the BEST GAME ever made. :D
Terran
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2010 17:38 GMT
#16
On December 22 2010 16:22 Loophole wrote:
You have to get used to hiting 1a2a3a4a etc to attack with large numbers in BW. Correct hand positioning helps. There are several threads on hand position for speed for this, but one often recommended way is:

1a2a3a4a

Ring-Ring Middle-Ring Index-Ring Index-Ring

practice it.

As far as rallying probes, rally them towards your minerals just a little bit, and catch them as they come out, then right click to mine.

Woah... so that how you do 1a2a3a
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LeoA
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada108 Posts
December 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#17
Day[2]

Ok, so far, I've had a pretty great day with regards to SC:BW. I decided to ditch the NA server and go to the asian gateway, hoping to play some better people. (I'm not sure if its just a diff port, or a diff server but anyways) I played pretty late into last night, after my first post, and I couldn't physically get to sleep afterwards, the games were so intense, and ALIVE that I had adrenaline coursing through my system for the next 30 minutes. I was also just sitting there, just thinking about how awesome tomorrow (today) was going to be, because all I would be doing is playing starcraft...its honestly fun to just sit, and THINK about starcraft strats, ideas, and whatnot. Today I grabbed my iCCup login, but sadly, it looks like I'm going to need to wait until I get back home to get on teh server, because the anti-hack, and the server reg are both .exe files which macs don't use...sucks...anyway, back on topic I ended up playing alot on the Asian server. I actually asked people where there were from, just to get an idea of the non korean vs. korean demographic in the server...of the 17 games I've played so far 3 have been chinese, 2 were Vietnamese, a few (didn't count) were other NAs and EUs looking for more competition and the rest were Koreans, surprisingly, every one of them spoke excellent english, except for one of the Vietnamese players who I spoke to in french. My record was not as good today as it was yesterday (when I won 3/4s of my games, though admittedly I did play 2 BGHs and 1 fastest before i realized it wasn't for me.)

3-13-1 one of the disconnected, but I don't think it was a plug pull, b/c the game was only 13 minutes in. Towards the end of the session I started to feel more comfortable with my units, and I started doing *more* fancy stuff, like pylon-dragoon wall-ins, and and zealot wall offs. I didn't think to save the replays today, but if people want to see what a newbie looks like again I'd gladly post them (if someone tells me where, and how) Just comment to tell me if that would interest you or not (I may just do it anyways if I figure out how =P)

gl hf LeoA fighting (just figured out what that actually means =D good times.
Before you say anything, remember...I bite.
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
December 22 2010 22:01 GMT
#18
Ok so you cant select an ENTIRE army to one group or you cant select anything ?
1. you cant select more than 12 units
2. If you cant make a control group you have to change your keyboard language or hit caps lock i had this problem when i tried BW.
With you luck i wasnt good enough to play that game so i went back to SC2 : (((((( maybe i will try it tomorrow : )
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
December 22 2010 22:06 GMT
#19
yay leoa, welcome to bw!

sounds like you're having some awesome time. i havnt touched bw since sc2, you're making me want to play it you should have some fun with bw exclusive strategies like reaver rush

glhf sir.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
December 23 2010 00:23 GMT
#20
Post your b.net ID and maybe i'll come help you learn the basics.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
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