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Brood War + Heavy Metal = Nostalgia?

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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
February 05 2012 01:50 GMT
#1
So I’ve alluded to this a little in the past but I think it might be time for me to go public: I am a rabid metalhead. I instantly identified (P)HasuObs’ “theme song” from the NASL Season 2 Finals as an Amon Amarth song. I love (P)iNcontroL because he’s an amazing character and he streams the same music that I listen to. I took great pride in spotting all the metalheads at MLG Providence.

I had a realization when I saw Revocation/Children of Bodom in concert in Rochester NY. As David Davidson (lead guitarist and singer of Revocation) was doing his guitar and mic check, he teased a few Metallica and Van Halen riffs. Some of the older guys and I cheered. I love that kind of shit. But most of the high school kids had no idea what was going on. And then it clicked…

That’s how I think Brood War fans see their beloved game.

Follow me here, all right? Imagine that in like 2010, Brood War was still the big boy. It has sick commentators, a super established scene, and always shows incredible games. You might even see someone like Jaedong or Flash pull off a near-perfect game.

Then in what seems like one fell-swoop, the StarCraft 2 Beta comes out and seems to sweep aside all things Brood War. And with the introduction of Wings of Liberty, it seems like Brood War has been pushed more and more aside. More than a decade of history, games, and fandom seems to have evaporated. And a lot StarCraft 2 crowd doesn’t seem interested in leveling up their history.

Growing up I listened to Metallica, Iron Maiden, and Slayer. To me, the old thrash metal bands and old school metal bands are the epitome of everything that is great in metal music. There is so much history to learn and appreciate. I have friends and have met people who got into it later and something gets lost in translation. Most of my friends dislike Slayer and are super picky about Megadeth songs and albums. I don’t get it, they’re the shit. Why doesn’t everyone love them like I do?

It’s something I grew up with.

Just like how tons of fans grew up with Brood War. Maybe it was in the literal sense of a childhood growing up. Or maybe it was growing up into eSports; an introduction into the scene we all love. Regardless, it’s so hard to tell someone that something they’ve loved for a decade is now antiquated. I mean think about it. The Rolling Stones are about to croak at any moment but if they were to announce a tour, it would be sold out in 3 minutes. Why? Things that people grow up with are ingrained in them. Putting aside the actual debate of which game is better, the diehard old school Brood War fans will always side with Brood War. Period. There’s nothing that you can debate. And trust me, they are diehard. Look at the top of TeamLiquid!

The same thing can be said about metal fans. Try telling me Iron Maiden isn’t the greatest thing ever put into my eardrums. Or that Metallica’s solos are overrated. I don’t even want to entertain any thoughts otherwise.

To me, it now makes perfect sense. So stop the debates and watch some of the videos shown in the farewell post to MBCGame. Learn some of your history and then form an opinion. Oh, and up the irons! \m/


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I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 05 2012 02:04 GMT
#2
Up the irons!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
February 05 2012 02:21 GMT
#3
Its not nostalgia at all, and it wasn't brushed aside at all, sc2 doesn't even touch bw with a 10 foot pole in korea.
A lot of people (including me) only started playing BW after playing sc2 for a long time.

We play it because its much more fun, its simple really.
|| o.o
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
February 05 2012 02:27 GMT
#4
I don't repeatedly watch or play the same games from the past -.-
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2012 02:29 GMT
#5
If you watch HeavOnEarth/Heavens[LighT] stream he listens to good music as well.

He also manages to not suck too horribly at Starcraft.

ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
RespectTheNerd
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden64 Posts
February 05 2012 02:45 GMT
#6
actually i think this is the perfect commparison didnt really see it like this before but if someone was to come up to me and start playing some nu metal shit like slipknot id probably be as pissed as a bw fan getting harrased by sc2 fans... i actually get why this whole bw vs sc2 fight now ^^ thanks.

also SLAYER!!! \m/
I cant sleep, Have u tried dreaming? Cause when im dreaming im usually asleep.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 05 2012 03:02 GMT
#7
hasu's theme song was something by AA?

thats fucking sick +1 fan for him
White-Ra fighting!
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 03:05:03
February 05 2012 03:04 GMT
#8
So this is basically a repackaging of the "nostalgia argument", am I correct? I can only repeat what has already been said in countless threads and and has been said in this thread: Many people discovered BW when SC2 was in beta, not long ago. The argument loses its basis if you take those cases into account. Hell, even writing staff came to BW in 2010! Those are certainly not 10 years of BW experience.
Also please don't get me started about metal history. Iron Maiden are certainly not the greatest thing ever. Slayer is ten times better (at least until Seasons...).
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 05 2012 03:07 GMT
#9
...you are totally forgetting that a LOT of old bw vods/videos are full with metal as well. Actually that's what I first thought about it when I saw the thread title. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50935 Posts
February 05 2012 03:07 GMT
#10
UP THE IRONS!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 03:19:58
February 05 2012 03:19 GMT
#11
Metal just goes better with Starcraft, BW and WoL. \m/
Starcraft 2 and eSports enthusiast. https://twitter.com/#!/mrGRAPETV | http://mrgrapetv.wordpress.com/
Vertig0
Profile Joined March 2009
United States196 Posts
February 05 2012 03:24 GMT
#12
I have far more nostalgia for WC2 than for Brood War. WC2 was pretty much the only non-educational game I had, from about age 7 to 11, and I've probably played more hours of WC2 than any other game.

However, I wouldn't ever say that WC2 is a more deserving e-sport than SC2. I'd hardly even played Brood War at all until 2008. When most of SC2's matchups have moved away from the current ball vs ball nonsense (SC2 TvZ is a good example of what I hope for) I will happily admit that SC2 is as good as BW.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2012 03:54 GMT
#13
On February 05 2012 12:07 r.Evo wrote:
...you are totally forgetting that a LOT of old bw vods/videos are full with metal as well. Actually that's what I first thought about it when I saw the thread title. =D




Anyone? (Not metal but still)
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 03:58:05
February 05 2012 03:57 GMT
#14
On February 05 2012 12:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 12:07 r.Evo wrote:
...you are totally forgetting that a LOT of old bw vods/videos are full with metal as well. Actually that's what I first thought about it when I saw the thread title. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxap7iaP9cY


Anyone? (Not metal but still)

Cool, but I prefer this one. Reminds me of my high school.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
February 05 2012 04:00 GMT
#15
Was watching Stork vs Light last night. Stork's theme song is Motorhead's The Game. Pretty cool ^_^

@surfinbird1
There's no argument man, I'm just sharing how I think BW fans feel. This is how I'm relating to it. In another note I can't wait to see Slayer on the Rockstar Mayhem tour this summer.

@r.Evo
I'm a BW noob, just starting to get into it. Haven't seen that many old VODs =X
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2012 04:02 GMT
#16
On February 05 2012 12:57 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 12:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 05 2012 12:07 r.Evo wrote:
...you are totally forgetting that a LOT of old bw vods/videos are full with metal as well. Actually that's what I first thought about it when I saw the thread title. =D

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxap7iaP9cY


Anyone? (Not metal but still)

Cool, but I prefer this one. Reminds me of my high school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKh2YjjIpk


Sleepers reminds me of Shinhan 3, specifically:


Saosin have had a special place in my heart since then.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 05 2012 04:05 GMT
#17
Metal is basically the official music of korean BW, just watch any televised match and the intro music they use lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 04:33:51
February 05 2012 04:33 GMT
#18
\m/ (-_-) \m/

This is my metalhead ASCII smiley. Use it well.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Toasterbaked
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 04:38:03
February 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#19
Already posted twice but..

UP THE IRONS

Metallica is awesome too, minus everything post-black album T.T
Aka lossmule.sky in east
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 05 2012 04:43 GMT
#20
On February 05 2012 10:50 CPTBadAss wrote:

Just like how tons of fans grew up with Brood War. Maybe it was in the literal sense of a childhood growing up. Or maybe it was growing up into eSports; an introduction into the scene we all love. Regardless, it’s so hard to tell someone that something they’ve loved for a decade is now antiquated.


A lot of SCII fans have a hard time warping their heads around this, but the people who still watch broodwar don't do it out of nostalgia, but do it because we think it is a legitimately better game. Where your metaphor breaks down is that while the rolling stones are getting old and losing the mechanical ability to play like they used to, the BW games being played now are the highest level we have ever seen.
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