• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:33
CEST 03:33
KST 10:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)5Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE12Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"9
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4680 users

Bw builds in sc2, Intro

Blogs > Teoita
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
January 18 2012 14:07 GMT
#1
Hello!

So for my birthday my lovely lovely girlfriend got me a Razer Arctosa and Abyssus. Considering that before i was playing with this (more or less, plus a random mouse just as old. Scrollwheel doesn`t work anymore on that):

http://www.dansdata.com/images/clicky2/spacesaver1280.jpg

it`s a hell of an improvement. Some buttons barely worked and i had to hit them REALLY hard for the hotkey to work. However, it also means that the new keyboard with smooth and well-working keys for now feels wierd as hell and my mechanics and macro have gone to shit, so while i practice i have decided to pull some bw builds in custom games for the luls. If i have to play like crap i might as well look insane/baller while doing it. Seriously it`s crazy how different it is, i have lost like 30 APM because sometimes i just sit there going "jeez this feels so wierd!"

I plan on trying and battle reporting the following:

PvZ
Sair/Reaver (turning it into phoenix/speed prism). It will be awful but whatever.
4gate 2archon +1chargelot.
2gate expand into double stargate +1 phoenixes.

PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.
DT drop, double expo and then get a mothership and templar. Pretend the mothership is an arbiter and recall around because yes.
4gate with 3 proxied if i ever run into gassless FE, just because NonY/Tyler is a badass.

PvP:
The manly Sayle build, 14 nex, 2gate zealot, then get dt`s, take a third when you still have no freakin units and then go zealot/archon. Might throw in some storms for good measure. If i can pull this one build off i will be the happiest man ever.
Something with speed warp prisms and colossi.
3gate (5gate?) chargelot.
2gate opening into whatever. I guess dt expanding, or mass zealots of 4-5 gateways.

Any other suggestions? I might try it for Terran and Zerg too, i`ll see.

*****
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#2
Gundamrush

2fac (1 with tech-lab and the 2nd with a reactor) and also reactor on the rax

push with 10 marines, 2 tanks and rally hellions.

This used to be a very viable strategy (SjoW beat UnderDark with it for instance) Not too sure it still works
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
January 18 2012 14:16 GMT
#3
I've tried the bisu build PvZ in SC2, but roaches...
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
January 18 2012 14:16 GMT
#4
5 hatch hydra zvp? Probably won't work but w/e

Also, 3 hatch muta, or some build that gets out 9 mutas all at once.

Deep six.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
January 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#5
Try harassing with a Colo like a reaver, into two-base carrier (:

BTW while Razer gear is nice, and old stuff get's old/worn, I much prefer the old Dell Keyboards to anything for playing RTS, the keys are nice to touch, have a dynamic movement, and most importantly, you can palm the left ctrl key (FU laptops that can't). Then again, I am one to collect Logitech Mini Opticals (6 woot) so just my 2 cents.
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:31:54
January 18 2012 14:31 GMT
#6
I tried Phoenix SO much in PvZ ever since release pretty much, but at the end of the day dependency on Sentries and Zerg having Roaches shuts down so much of the BW PvZ style.

Edit: split Templar tech too.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
January 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#7
I remember the NSHoseo Protosses doing something really similar to a BW PvZ build, so it can`t be that bad. Honestly i don`t care if the builds i use are viable or not, i will suck regardless so whatever.

Worst case scenario, i go double robo immortal and pretend they are goons :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
January 18 2012 14:43 GMT
#8
The DT drop one will either be instawin or instaloss. ^^;
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
January 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#9
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
ZeDo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States28 Posts
January 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#10
in the Last 1000 PvP's i have watched ive never seen someone take a third. Its 70% 1 base, 30% 2 base.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#11
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.

Don't forget the science ves... oh wait
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 15:50:24
January 18 2012 15:50 GMT
#12
On January 19 2012 00:46 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.

Don't forget the science ves... oh wait


I can always try 2port raven. So stuff to add:
2port raven tvz.
3hatch hydra zvp.
3hatch spire, get corruptors if he goes stargate otherwise get mutas, 5hatch hydra pvz.
1base muta zvz.
2fact tvp.

I guess i could also play a standard tvz, but have a starport for ravens and one for medivacs. I`ll see, plenty of builds to try already ^^

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
January 18 2012 15:51 GMT
#13
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.


Well, SK terran style also uses science vessels. Maybe marine/medivac/raven? Ravens could potentially be good for blowing up banelings with seeker missile (irradiate) and harassing mineral lines with autoturrets (irradiate harass on drones).
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
January 18 2012 16:22 GMT
#14
1 word: The Stove =).
Everything is a remix.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
January 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#15
On January 19 2012 00:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 00:03 Garm wrote:
You should do the SK Terran style in TvZ, where you fast expand and go only marines and medi... oh wait.


Well, SK terran style also uses science vessels. Maybe marine/medivac/raven? Ravens could potentially be good for blowing up banelings with seeker missile (irradiate) and harassing mineral lines with autoturrets (irradiate harass on drones).

You irradiating defilers 'cos EMP ain't efficient on them, because they got consume. But for infestors you should use EMP, and this spell is moved to ghosts.
So, it is basically SK Terran style already.
Everything is a remix.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 16:30:56
January 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#16
deleted
Everything is a remix.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 18 2012 16:35 GMT
#17
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well
starleague forever
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
January 18 2012 17:20 GMT
#18
On January 19 2012 01:35 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well

It does versus zerg, yo
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Cupine
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada51 Posts
January 18 2012 18:07 GMT
#19
Tbh, i've been thinking of trying the old bisu style of corsair/dt and making it phoenix/dt, i'll see how it goes ^_^
Cupine.945, Official protoss player now
darkmighty
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil48 Posts
January 18 2012 18:25 GMT
#20
On January 19 2012 01:35 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:07 Teoita wrote:
PvT
15 nex into 2base carrier. Yell JANGBI OSL CHAMPION if i ever win a game with this.


yea, this build doesnt work too well

Apparently you've not seen White-ra playing recently huh?
The only winning move is to never accept defeat.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Crank Gathers S4: Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings110
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
18:30
Mid Season Playoffs
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 72
CosmosSc2 31
Nina 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 6485
GuemChi 3970
Calm 1017
Artosis 655
NaDa 68
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
League of Legends
Doublelift4196
Counter-Strike
summit1g12063
taco 160
minikerr156
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King124
Other Games
gofns20049
tarik_tv12951
Coldzera 1155
Day[9].tv927
shahzam423
C9.Mang0375
PiGStarcraft314
ToD146
Maynarde131
Livibee84
NeuroSwarm65
ViBE60
ROOTCatZ41
FoxeR24
JuggernautJason19
Temp012
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 90
• EnkiAlexander 58
• davetesta23
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21253
League of Legends
• Scarra1398
Other Games
• Day9tv927
Upcoming Events
Escore
8h 27m
CrankTV Team League
9h 27m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 27m
Spirit vs sOs
GgMaChine vs Percival
Serral vs MaxPax
OSC
20h 57m
Replay Cast
22h 27m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 7h
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-29
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W5
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSLAN 4
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.