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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 07:46:57
November 04 2011 07:44 GMT
#1
I feel like I'm the only person I know who plays games competitively/hardcore and is semi decent but don't really play any other games or have a care for any games at all.

Like for example, I've played BW and SC2 for years and I got like C+ / Master levels (and even in BW I never really liked to ladder, I liked to play bloodbath with other BB gosus) and maybe a little WC3/TFT as well. But I never got into dota or any mobas or mmos, never liked counterstrike or any fps games (except quakes and duke nukem lan with friends long ago), or even any other RTS. Whenever I hear about new games coming out or whatever I don't really care, I can pretty much get any game for free if I want via internet but I don't. I don't own any consoles, and most of the games suck anyways so I just don't care enough to buy a console for 1 game (like Street fighter 3 third strike for xbox360 which I play on computer a lot as well).

Basically what I'm saying is there are only certain games that I like and I play the shit out of them and continue to play them ignoring all other games (even though I pay attention to new releases). All my friends IRL who play games at all are either casual gamers who don't play much but play a lot of variety of games and are obviously not very good at them.

I mean every once in a while there is a game that piques interest and I'll play the single player (but it's usually a let down because its easy/lame or short with no replay-ability or just single player) such as Bioshock or New smb wii. Most of the time It's just puzzle,creative games that aren't real serious to begin with (and I consider them mini-games because they are basically like HQ UMS maps to me): Like nimbus, portal, shatter, angry birds, or plants vs zombies. And ofc I'll rarely replay classics from 80s and 90s consoles on emulators.

I've actually got a folder full of games that I've DL'ed and yet to install or play because I just don't really see them as being interesting enough. It's mainly just been SC2 and SF:3S for a few years now. I actually never really liked to watch esports either (because I'd rather just play the game, same with regular sports). I mainly just watch finals, or recommended matches, only lately have I been watching a lot of games but I still only watch ZvX games for the most part.

I guess this blog is trying to say the same thing I say about anything I claim to like or be, music, movies, games etc. Most of it just sucks to me, but I find my little non mainstream niche content and sit there with it and no one to relate with except for people online who aren't friends or are totally different from me. Everyone is proud to be a nerd here, like gays are proud to march in parades. Its totally fine to me, but I feel like I'm the bigot holding the sign that says 'lol fags' sometimes and I don't want to hang out with the crowd.

I'm sure this blog may come off as pretentious, hypocritical, or whatever you want to call it, but I'm just trying to see if there is anyone else who has this kind of feeling towards games, gamers, esports, etc.

Do you consider yourself a gamer? a nerd? why?

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A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 07:53:17
November 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#2
Im a lot in your situaion, lol @ other games are like UMS map, this is so true, and those UMS map were judged for noob (old SCBW era)
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MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
November 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#3
you are most certainly the only person in the world who is like this. /irony

now, go check out braid and darwinia. Play the 500 levels of "the way of the ninja". Go for some World of Goo if you haven't, check some dwarf fortress, maybe minecraft/terraria.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
November 04 2011 07:55 GMT
#4
I totally agree. I feel that i've been so spoiled by SC ever since i first bought it. I think I've played a total of 6 games excluding Starcraft and SC2 in the last 7 years They all just pale in comparision. Each time my friends try to get me into the current "hot" game I look at it and think to myself "Why should I play this when I could be laddering/watching streams?"
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 04 2011 07:56 GMT
#5
I`ve never considered myself a gamer. I`m a bw player.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 04 2011 07:59 GMT
#6
Nope. I was a Nintendo gamer back in the day. I knew all the NES and SNES games and never had trouble, but really, until SC2 came out, the last game I played a ton was SC1/BW. After that, all games seems to just be weak.

I still play through old NES/SNES games though. Love them! Also, I was big into old arcade games and pinball machines. I still have to pop in a quarter when I find an Pac-Man machine. =)
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2011 08:00 GMT
#7
I don't get it. You don't live by social labels?
Nothing new and rest assured, you'll see everyone is exactly like you.

If you're satisfied with what you got and don't care for labels or categorizing yourself for a sentimental reassurance that ensures you are amongst a group of people who have similar characteristics, then keep on truckin'!
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
November 04 2011 08:01 GMT
#8
On November 04 2011 16:51 MisterD wrote:
you are most certainly the only person in the world who is like this. /irony

now, go check out braid and darwinia. Play the 500 levels of "the way of the ninja". Go for some World of Goo if you haven't, check some dwarf fortress, maybe minecraft/terraria.

I wasn't trying to say I was the only person in the world. I was trying to see if many people would agree/disagree with my sentiments. And to see replies about the last line in the OP.

Braid, looks like it MIGHT be ok, but the others look stupid to me. I actually already have world of goo in my games folder but not installed. Thanks for the suggestions though.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2011 08:03 GMT
#9
Do you consider yourself a gamer? a nerd? why?


Your answers are going to range from people dejecting from the label in order to appear commonly unique as the associative quality/traits or characteristics attached to the words from their influencing perception of the social groups.
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:06:30
November 04 2011 08:04 GMT
#10
On November 04 2011 17:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't get it. You don't live by social labels?
Nothing new and rest assured, you'll see everyone is exactly like you.

If you're satisfied with what you got and don't care for labels or categorizing yourself for a sentimental reassurance that ensures you are amongst a group of people who have similar characteristics, then keep on truckin'!


I agree and I am satisfied except the lack of meaningful relationships with anyone around said labels.
But the thing that I don't understand is the casters, commentators, players, and even posters on this site who are self proclaimed nerds and gamers. Why do they label themselves? And why do they think they are that label?
Especially since there is such an obvious stigma and self deprecation to the labels of gamers and nerds.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2011 08:09 GMT
#11
But the thing that I don't understand is the casters, commentators, players, and even posters on this site who are self proclaimed nerds and gamers. Why do they label themselves? And why do they think they are that label?


Individually, we can find ways to disassociate ourselves with overlapping spheres of various social groups.

A caster is a representative, popularized by the community, casting a theme (comedic/games/excitement) and projecting his personality, views and ideas to a target audience.

The target audience is gamers, since the word has so many connotations and variations or levels of definitions (Casual gamers, hardcore gamers, competitive gamers), to address everyone as a gamer is easier and since you are watching, it's assumed, on one level or viewpoint to another, you are a gamer.

Saying: "I enjoy games and watch games being played" doesn't really change much. If I were to say I enjoy smoking and someone labeled me as a smoker, how am I to disagree? No, I only enjoy smoking, I don't behold the same traits as a smoker (whichever that may be).

To be more convoluted, it's just easier to address everyone as a social label, regardless how much it pertains to you personally or not. It's not like it's an insult.
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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 04 2011 08:11 GMT
#12
This sort of made me chuckle because this is how I read the blog: 'Im not into sports because I only play this one sport every weekend but I dont play any other sports or watch any other sports even though I play this one sport every weekend Im not into sports'

As per usual it all comes down to how one defines their terms I suppose. If you define a gamer or nerd as someone that must play multiple titles and/or watch lots of esports then I suppose no, your not a gamer/nerd by that definition. It isn't how I define a gamer though but hey thats just me. I define a gamer as someone who spends the majority of their relaxation time playing a game rather than some other form of entertainment.

As far as how one defines a nerd well that gets complicated. When I was growing up (and perhaps where is part of it too) a nerd was someone that basically lived for science or math related subjects and was socially inept outside of a classroom or lab. The definition has obviously changed so I cant really say what a nerd is now, it is used in such an ubiquitous manner that I personally think it has actually lost most of any meaning it had.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2011 08:16 GMT
#13
On November 04 2011 17:11 Synwave wrote:
This sort of made me chuckle because this is how I read the blog: 'Im not into sports because I only play this one sport every weekend but I dont play any other sports or watch any other sports even though I play this one sport every weekend Im not into sports'

As per usual it all comes down to how one defines their terms I suppose. If you define a gamer or nerd as someone that must play multiple titles and/or watch lots of esports then I suppose no, your not a gamer/nerd by that definition. It isn't how I define a gamer though but hey thats just me. I define a gamer as someone who spends the majority of their relaxation time playing a game rather than some other form of entertainment.

As far as how one defines a nerd well that gets complicated. When I was growing up (and perhaps where is part of it too) a nerd was someone that basically lived for science or math related subjects and was socially inept outside of a classroom or lab. The definition has obviously changed so I cant really say what a nerd is now, it is used in such an ubiquitous manner that I personally think it has actually lost most of any meaning it had.


Actually a nerd has a very specific designated definition stemming from social labeling during the 80s (?).
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:21:21
November 04 2011 08:18 GMT
#14
Torte, I'm more referring to casters claiming nerd and calling everyone nerds. its an insult to me, and anyone who I would show the vods to would be even more offended. A nerd around here, is kinda like what synwave said. Only worse, a nerd isn't just some socially inept bookworm. It also hold strong connotation to being a weak pussy, a disgraceful cowardly person, who is just overall lame.

For example. If my friend were to call someone a nerd, or me a nerd in an argument. Thats basically just as bad as calling someone a fag, a bitch, etc.

this definition here I guess makes sense if you use the word 100% to its definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd but its more of a slang word imho, and one shouldn't be using it like this.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
November 04 2011 08:20 GMT
#15
On November 04 2011 17:04 SpoR wrote:
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On November 04 2011 17:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't get it. You don't live by social labels?
Nothing new and rest assured, you'll see everyone is exactly like you.

If you're satisfied with what you got and don't care for labels or categorizing yourself for a sentimental reassurance that ensures you are amongst a group of people who have similar characteristics, then keep on truckin'!


I agree and I am satisfied except the lack of meaningful relationships with anyone around said labels.
But the thing that I don't understand is the casters, commentators, players, and even posters on this site who are self proclaimed nerds and gamers. Why do they label themselves? And why do they think they are that label?
Especially since there is such an obvious stigma and self deprecation to the labels of gamers and nerds.


its word reappropriation, similar to what the blacks have done with nigger and the gays queer. the point is to take away the power those words have as a stigma.

SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:24:14
November 04 2011 08:23 GMT
#16
You can't take away the power of the word though. People are always going to use it for its negative use. Thats why you can't walk into compton and yell 'WHATS UP NIGGERS!' and in that same neighborhood you also couldn't yell out 'WHATS UP NERDS!' because its just as disrespectful.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
November 04 2011 08:24 GMT
#17
On November 04 2011 17:18 SpoR wrote:
Torte, I'm more referring to casters claiming nerd and calling everyone nerds. its an insult to me, and anyone who I would show the vods to would be even more offended. A nerd around here, is kinda like what synwave said. Only worse, a nerd isn't just some socially inept bookworm. It also hold strong connotation to being a weak pussy, a disgraceful cowardly person, who is just overall lame.

For example. If my friend were to call someone a nerd, or me a nerd in an argument. Thats basically just as bad as calling someone a fag, a bitch, etc.

this definition here I guess makes sense if you use the word 100% to its definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd but its more of a slang word imho, and one shouldn't be using it like this.


that is a very unique definition to your particular situation then - in every situation i've ever been in, "nerd" is, to be sure, a somewhat negative term, but not to the degree of a particularly savage insult, and it can be equally used as an affectionate term as well - my wife calls me a nerd all the time but in a very nice way, if you can sort of understand that.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:26:32
November 04 2011 08:24 GMT
#18
On November 04 2011 17:18 SpoR wrote:
Torte, I'm more referring to casters claiming nerd and calling everyone nerds. its an insult to me, and anyone who I would show the vods to would be even more offended. A nerd around here, is kinda like what synwave said. Only worse, a nerd isn't just some socially inept bookworm. It also hold strong connotation to being a weak pussy, a disgraceful cowardly person, who is just overall lame.


Then they're not talking to you. (P.s: A geek has more reflection to your misinterpreted definition than a "nerd").

The terminology of "nerd" from the 1980s (?) no longer pertains to the synonymous word or fluidity of it. Why? Well 1. Being intelligent has its rewards more than previously, college is on the rise and people striving to become competitively intelligent and thus fit for the market is no longer deterring to one's character (a.k.a no one frowns upon it).

2. With the influence of mass media, nerds are no longer socially or sexually inept, but purely awkwardly cute and sometimes neurotic that attracts women because of their naivety, inexperience and often misview thought that they would gratefully treat the girl suitably for how she wants to be treated: a stereotypical princess or an attractive female a "nerd" would be grateful for. (Think of that Cohen fellow in the O.C)

3. The reinvention of technology being friendly to people of all ages, genders and existences no longer makes technology (on a social level) rejecting. In other words, thanks to Facebook, Apple, Twitter and other conveneinces, a lot of people use the computers now and it is no longer associated with socially awkward people who run to their computers because of their inability to be socially accepted.
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
November 04 2011 08:27 GMT
#19
Torte, that's another point about nerd usage. People (especially girls) are always saying they like nerds, are nerds etc. But they really actually don't/aren't.
This whole idea that nerds are cute and cool is a mockery imho. Which is why people dress up like nerds on halloween.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2011 08:31 GMT
#20
On November 04 2011 17:27 SpoR wrote:
Torte, that's another point about nerd usage. People (especially girls) are always saying they like nerds, are nerds etc. But they really actually don't/aren't.
This whole idea that nerds are cute and cool is a mockery imho. Which is why people dress up like nerds on halloween.


People dress up like nerds on halloween because like all social labels, there are stereotypes. I can dress up as a stereotyped pothead, but that doesn't reflect all potheads or people who smoke marijuana.

That doesn't mean its true, that's just you accepting things at face-value, which is a common misconception.

Girls are saying they like traits they associate with nerds. Look at that, another fluid form of interpreting or defining what a nerd is. They like "nerds" because those kinds of people possess characteristics that allow women to show them new things they wouldn't typically experience or go for (Clubbing for example, socializing, drinking). It allows women to teach the guy new things and see them in a new environment.
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